Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 (TCF-1) is here! D-aspartic acid supplement
- 06-29-2010, 02:51 PM
- 06-30-2010, 01:52 PM
- 06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
First, what is your reasoning for doing that? Then I could probably give a better answer.
06-30-2010, 04:31 PM
CELTIC LABS REP
06-30-2010, 06:22 PM
you can run an anti-e if you like, but if you're worried about prolactin you could just stick with vitex.
07-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Aromatase Inhibitors are run sucessfully in conjunction with steroid cycles to keep the estrogen down . They do not seem to interfere with any gains. If you were worried about estrogen, I was going to say don't. I wouldn't worry about it from that possible rise in testosterone that you're going to get. I'm not that versed on the prolactin side of things except that an A/I can help with that and 6 bromo is labeled as an A/I. I think your idea of stacking TCF-1 with other things could be the ticket. I am not convinced of the effectiveness these products yet. That is a small rise in test when you fiqure that a 200mg. weekly test cycle( 28 mg. daily) is considered very mild with ok gains. If you are at the low end of the 3-10 mg. daily production by your body, 40 percent is kinda small. ESPECIALLY on a short run. But I do believe it may have potential to be stacked with other things for several weeks during your heaviest lifting sessions. Time will tell. Please let us know how you do.
07-01-2010, 03:44 PM
I don't see why an aromatase inhibitor and TCF1/DAA wouldn't have a synergistic effect.
TCF: Slight rise in LH, raise in sTAR = more test, with the "brakes" of E1 feedback to HPTA still present
AI: Removes the "brakes" and boosts LH while increasing sTAR efficiency.
Seems to me that the only feedback you get with this stack is direct androgen feedback to the hpta? PP would have to comment, but I plan on running DAA+6bromo for a "PCT" from Natadrol.
Paging Dr. Banner. . .
07-02-2010, 12:10 AM
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07-07-2010, 06:13 AM
I'm leaning out pretty good. Down a solid 3.5lbs in 2 weeks with no change really in diet. No noticeable effect on Libido. Workouts have been very good, especially my endurance. The negatives are sleep, it's been hit or miss. One night ok the next night awful AND a dull headache. I had it the first 4 days, it went away, now I have it again.
07-07-2010, 09:09 AM
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07-07-2010, 10:59 AM
I was curious because I am going to be running it with Turinabol, and I wanted to see the dosage to do a 6 week cycle, but I assume you got 2 bottles?
At 500mg a day you have enough for a 25 day cycle in each bottle. I was considering doing one of the following:
Either 250 per day through the whole cycle, or...
500mg a day for the last 4 weeks (minus 2 days).
07-09-2010, 01:46 PM
Interesting, I'm planning on adding androhard into my dermacrine cycle, going to use tcf 1 during the last 12 days before pct then 12 off then 24 days on til the end of pct
07-09-2010, 01:47 PM
07-11-2010, 11:25 AM
New here, been hearing about TCF-1, getting back to working out and changing my diet for the better etc. Couple questions though, if you take this in the morning pre-workout how far in advance should you, 1 hour? Also what if you do a pre-workout shake, would that disrupt tcf-1 b/c now you'd have that in you vs just the straight tcf-1? Or is it better before bed..... read through this thread but still not sure which is the best route to go with it.
Also planning on using with sustain alpha after reading all the stuff on it as well. What about after the 12 days of tcf-1, anything else that should be used or just continue to workout and eat the same etc, and keep using Sustain Alpha since thats 12 days and Sustain Alpha is 5 on 2 off? Thanks guys
07-11-2010, 03:52 PM
TCF-1 anytime mate, it'll absorb so quickly taking it with a protein shake is unlikely to affect absorption much.
Taking the Sustain Alpha will augment the testosterone-boosting effects of the stack further. Dietary changes are completely dependent on your goals mate
07-11-2010, 07:31 PM
07-12-2010, 08:12 AM
Had TCF1 and Sustain Alpha overnighted can't wait to try. I mainly use Natures Isopure whey, so will be cool to test this combo with tcf1 and sa, I'm not looking to get big lol, just raise testosterone as I was low right now at 400 and get back into shape. Changed my whole diet too.
07-12-2010, 09:16 AM
07-12-2010, 12:59 PM
I ordered a bottle over the weekend and will stack it with Pink Magic accordingly, I will let you guys know how it goes
07-12-2010, 01:03 PM
07-15-2010, 06:29 PM
07-15-2010, 06:34 PM
tcf1 taste like liquid candy , Sustain Alpha not so much lol, but the combo of both I can already feel after a few days.
07-15-2010, 06:42 PM
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07-18-2010, 08:21 PM
I'm currently using phytotest/dermacrine, going to add androhard and tcf 1 during the last 12 days of the cycle, then using again 24 days straight at the end of pct, should be interesting, but liking the phytotest/dermacrine alot.
07-18-2010, 08:22 PM
07-18-2010, 08:32 PM
This was my fist time using phytotest and dermacrine lv, only used the td version before. Gains are about equal so far, can't wait for the androhard come on mailman send me some goodies.
07-20-2010, 09:58 PM
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07-27-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm thinking about running my next TCF1 cycle stacked with Divanex. Someone tried this?
07-27-2010, 03:32 PM
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07-30-2010, 05:18 PM
07-30-2010, 05:58 PM
best tasting supp...EVER. hope the results are just as nice.
im logging it w/ tetopro and formadrol. link is in my signature. lets get the test party started right.
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