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    is sustain alpha an AI at all or just a test booster?

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    would sustain ran with TCF-1 be enough to block the extreme rise in estrogen as well or would an atd or formex, or 6bromo be needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    would sustain ran with TCF-1 be enough to block the extreme rise in estrogen as well or would an atd or formex, or 6bromo be needed...

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    you most likely wouldnt even need an AI but if you wanted to incorporate one it would probably work well.
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    are there any published studies on this raising test in humans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    are there any published studies on this raising test in humans?
    Under the resources tab, the first study appears to include human study. I have not read it however.

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    How do I go about matching prices I would rather order direct through PP. and there is stuff I wanna buy thats cheaper at the planet, and orbit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    How do I go about matching prices I would rather order direct through PP. and there is stuff I wanna buy thats cheaper at the planet, and orbit.
    I would contact Jared via PP's live help feature, or you could email him, also through PP's website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    is sustain alpha an AI at all or just a test booster?
    It's far more than just a testosterone booster, although it has no aromatase inhibition properties. The resveratrol alone in the compound acts as an adaptogen, 'balancing' the ratio of testosterone to oestrogen in the body, this is awesome in terms of libido-boosting properties But even more important during times of imbalance in the hormones, such as Post Cycle Therapy.
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    awesome deal i already have a couple but for this price i will have to pick up some more.
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    im currently close to the end of pct, by the time i get this shipment in the mail my pct should be over. will it be cool to use as soon as i get it..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    im currently close to the end of pct, by the time i get this shipment in the mail my pct should be over. will it be cool to use as soon as i get it..?
    You would still be able to create a natural stack with this, it isn't stictly for PCT. Consider its use similar to Testbooster, even though in my opinion it is superior to most of them. It will also help with keeping some of those gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    im currently close to the end of pct, by the time i get this shipment in the mail my pct should be over. will it be cool to use as soon as i get it..?
    yeah i think it would be a great way to leave your pct on a high note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    How do I go about matching prices I would rather order direct through PP. and there is stuff I wanna buy thats cheaper at the planet, and orbit.
    Yeah you can call us, email us or open the live chat feature. If you find another site with cheaper prices we beat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdredman72 View Post
    i hear you on that,ibought 3 bottles of superdrone from p.p at 45 and. at 20 a peice needless to say i dont order from p.p anymore
    We cant control our vendors prices... sometimes vendors will sell stuff for even less than we sold to them because they are trying to liquidate stock.

    If you find our stuff cheaper anywhere we will always match it or beat it. Just contact us. (plus if you factor in our "loyalty points" that you get with each order and free shipping value we are almost always cheaper even without discounting our stuff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    would sustain ran with TCF-1 be enough to block the extreme rise in estrogen as well or would an atd or formex, or 6bromo be needed...

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    Sustain isnt a very powerful AI. You would need something steroidial if you didnt want estrogen while using TCF-1. But I really dont think this is needed and there is nothing wrong with having estrogen in the upper range as long as your androgens are balancing them out.

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    Speaking of discounts I just saw this thread saying PP is having a BOGO sale on TCF-1 right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    would sustain ran with TCF-1 be enough to block the extreme rise in estrogen as well or would an atd or formex, or 6bromo be needed...

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    I dont think you would need to but sustain AND TCF-1 would be a CRAZY GREAT stack together !

    Increased conversion of cholesterol to testosterone with TCF-1
    and then the sustain's Resveratrol blocks estrogen and boosts testosterone
    pluse the 7,8 Benzoflavone increasing libido and supporting fertility
    sounds like a GREAT stack to me :-)
    Id throw in a T-911 tab in there every day for harder "workouts" also hehehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    We cant control our vendors prices... sometimes vendors will sell stuff for even less than we sold to them because they are trying to liquidate stock.

    If you find our stuff cheaper anywhere we will always match it or beat it. Just contact us. (plus if you factor in our "loyalty points" that you get with each order and free shipping value we are almost always cheaper even without discounting our stuff)

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    Yep gotta love the loyalty points just got my tcf-1 bogo for just the price of shipping
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    where are the logs?
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    so if np is selling it for 23.99 will you match and honor the BOGO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    caved and just bought 3 bottles from the planet.

    why it is on pp's website they say they have the lowest prices when they dont, and that they will price match when they dont? just curious. I love NP anyways and had a ccredit, just curious, as to why you advertise this but do nothing to back it up?
    At NP the price is 23.99 but right now with buy 1 get 1 free it's cheaper at PP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drod89 View Post
    where are the logs?
    Ive read some positive feedback on Primordial's site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticco View Post
    so if np is selling it for 23.99 will you match and honor the BOGO?
    Would also like to know... ? :]
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    so would u want to increase your cholesterol intake just a bit?
    more choles.= more test.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownRoyal View Post
    Would also like to know... ? :]
    We can price match at $23.99 for 1 bottle or sell you two bottles for $29.95. Its up to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Fires View Post
    so would u want to increase your cholesterol intake just a bit?
    more choles.= more test.?
    No. TCF-1 will be using intracellular cholesterol, which shouldn't really effect your cholesterol levels, which is extracellular cholesterol. So consuming the additional cholesterol likely wouldn't have much effect.
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    Are there any studies showing the test levels after the 12 days off after taking TCF-1.I would be curious to see how long the boost in testosterone lasted.Sounds like an interesting product since I want to completely stay away from prohormones.Can you run 12 days on and 12 off cycle continuously or would you eventually recommend a longer break?
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    Quote Originally Posted by csh72 View Post
    Are there any studies showing the test levels after the 12 days off after taking TCF-1.I would be curious to see how long the boost in testosterone lasted.Sounds like an interesting product since I want to completely stay away from prohormones.Can you run 12 days on and one off cycle continuously or would you eventually recommend a longer break?
    You would need to take a twelve day break between each twelve day cycle.

    There are people testing the TCF-1 now who will be getting test levels checked, however I believe they are only a couple days in at this point.

    The amount of sodium d-aspartate in TCF-1 is the same as what was used in studies which showed the 42% increase in total test in 12 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    No. TCF-1 will be using intracellular cholesterol, which shouldn't really effect your cholesterol levels, which is extracellular cholesterol. So consuming the additional cholesterol likely wouldn't have much effect.
    yes it would surely help;

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