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    Question Best supplement for strength gains...


    Alright so I'm already a pretty big guy... I'm not a noob to all of this and frankly I'm tired of the BS floating around all this crap they sell in the stores. So I come here to request your knowledge and experience on these products and what you would recommend. I've tried Tren once in the past and had good results but I've moved and can no longer attain it.

    I've stuck with prohoromones and I can't help but notice the headaches and raises in blood presure... Makes me wonder if the real sh** is better for you but its also harder to get. Especially now... Damn gov and there lame excuses for making it the way it is...

    Anyway... What would you recommend for a guy 28yo 6'5" 305lbs.? My arms are at 21" and chest is pretty big... I don't do roids and I've only done them once in the past. I guess I want to just see how much bigger and stronger I can get without gaining too much fat and killing myself from a stroke. LOL... (probably not so funny to some)...

    Anyway... Thanks for the help guys.

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    I would say try MAN Clout and perhaps some sort of test boosting product. There are more than a lot of good options on the market for natural test boosting.
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    creatine monohydrate
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    creatine mono (creapure), beta alanine, and citrulline malate is about the best u will get naturally. most test boosters and other products will just waste ur money. these are basic but work
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    You really need to check out PRIME by USP labs........... it will take a coupe of bottles, so wait for a sale on Nutraplanet... ( every now and then amazon has some good prices)............... Good Luck man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    I would say try MAN Clout and perhaps some sort of test boosting product. There are more than a lot of good options on the market for natural test boosting.
    i haven't used clout in a long time, very good supplement for strength gains.
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    Checkout Pr!mordial Performance. I have been using Sustain Alpha since it first came out along with Dermacrine. I've got nothing but love for those guy's.
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    i wont try man clout cuz it has red#40 stay away from all dyes in products if you really care about your health. i feel alot better now that im dye free. dyes have been linked to cancer,add,adhd,anxiety,depres sion,lack of energy,mood swings,skin disease,the list goes on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827 View Post
    i wont try man clout cuz it has red#40 stay away from all dyes in products if you really care about your health. i feel alot better now that im dye free. dyes have been linked to cancer,add,adhd,anxiety,depres sion,lack of energy,mood swings,skin disease,the list goes on and on.
    Interesting mention on the red dye. It seems as if ive heard this from somewhere too. If you dont mind mentioning a few more examples that would be great, but I am goin to search on my own today otherwise.

    Ive used Prime and liked it, even if its natural it works pretty good. Androhard or Dermacrine from primordial performance are pretty good. Turinabol is just amazing from everything ive read. I gave Androhard a short run and you'll be amazed. My blood pressure actually went down while taking it.
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    At 305lbs, I feel I can assume you are carrying quite a bit of fat. I understand that your goal is to gain muscle, but are you looking to lose some of that fat as well? Would change what we can recommend to you.

    Also what base supplements are you taking?

    If you are not taking anything, I would look to do a base stack that includes:

    MultiVitamin, FishOil, Creatine, Protein, BCAA, and Beta Alanine.

    For the multi vitamin, I would take Orange Triad by Controlled Labs. I would also probably venture for the fish oil from them (Orange Oximega) it has shown insane low levels of PCB contamination (something to look for in a FO product). These I would consider the base level health supplements.

    To go on from there would be towards adding to muscle growth strength. First you should consider a creatine monohydrate product. Creatine Monohydrate is one of the most researched substances for performance enhancement. For this I would recommend Creapure, from Primordial Performance. Reason for this being that it is insanely pure, and contains low levels of contaminants (Noticing a trend in my recommendations?). If looking for a substance, always strive for a pure form of it to get maximum effects (Cue Blow refrence).

    The protein will be for obvious reasons. I am finishing up my current tub of protein, but after having tried NutraPro, I will be grabbing a tub of it. Besides a base whey, many have said good things about products such as MAP by Primordial. The MAP (Maximum Absorbed Protein) contains predigested protein particles which allow for less protein to go further. Would be a great addition to a intra-workout/post workout regimine, however I have not tried it yet.

    BCAA products promote lean muscle gains and help with body composition (fat loss). BCAA, standing for Branched Chain Amino Acids are a must for bodybuilders. I would have to choose Primordial Performance again with this one as their IBCAA product again shows great levels of purity, a well designed ratio 2:1:1, and is offered at a great price.

    As for my last recommendation, Beta Alanine, it will allow you some extra endurance in the gym while shortening recovery time. Beta Alanine is the perfect addition to a Creatine/BCAA regimine. For this, I would choose to go Primordial Performance as well.

    So, to summarize, my stack (assuming you need the basics covered) would be:

    Orange Oximega Fish Oil - Controlled Labs
    Orange Triad - Controlled Labs
    Creapure - Primordial Performance
    Protein - NutraPro
    IBCAA - Primordial Performance
    Beta Alanine - Primordial Performance
    Optional: MAP - Primordial Performance

    If you are looking for information on something moving beyond this, let me know. But I would get these areas covered first.
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    TestoPRO would be a good natural test booster that will help.
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    TestoPro, Phyto Test or other natty booster, creapure ( PP sells this not sure of other brands) and BCAA's currently using primoridials. Good stuff.

    Currently logging testopro on here.

    Nothing substitutes for a good training regimen and strict diet tho.
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    best natty stack ive used Sustain alpha IBCAA, jack3d or ur fav preworkout for energy, phyto-test, great for solid lean gains, and of course creatine mono, that is some of the best strength supplement stack ive used
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    the testofen in phytotest is great for increasing free test levels it is supposed to mimic test..... but i just like it for the density of the muscles i get from it
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    The Testofen and Divanil in Testopro really do a great job on test levels and muscle gain.
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    if everything is in tact....diet/training/staple supps....the two best natty strength products i've used was testopro and prime
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    PRIME, Natadrol are the best supplements. Best prohormone combo would be Epi and 1-AD, take epi before workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    PRIME, Natadrol are the best supplements. Best prohormone combo would be Epi and 1-AD, take epi before workout
    Epi is not a pre wo compound. Dose should be spread out some over the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Epi is not a pre wo compound. Dose should be spread out some over the day.
    Thats what i thought but not according to what I read its on this message board some were... For the ""ultimate strength stack"." it should be taken pre workout.
    let me look maby i miss read..
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    cant find it, what ever..
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    You probably meant take one of the doss per workout.
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    m1,4add with prime
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    testpro,phytotest,creatine,caf feine,beta alanine and a good preworkout like ASGT or Premax all good for strength.
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