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  1. Originally posted by SCORPIO
    A bit more ephedra info: http://www.nutritionaloutlook.com/fr...nutrition.html
    "Senator Richard Durbin (DIL) is ephedra's most ardent critic. In August, he joined Tommy Thompson, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC"

    I thin senator DICK Durbin needs to get on some ephedra himself....

     
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  2. Originally posted by whosyourdaddy02


    I thin senator DICK Durbin needs to get on some ephedra himself....

     
    You been watching your xXx DVD a bit too much now haven't you??
  3. Ephedra illegal in NY!!!!


    Off the wire from the New York Post

    February 12, 2003 -- Suffolk lawmakers last night passed a ban on the sale
    of the dietary supplement ephedra.
    Legislator John Cooper, who sponsored the bill, said ephedra can be
    extremely dangerous.
    "The industry lobbyists don't want people to know this, but the simple fact
    is ephedra kills," he said.
    Ephedra is a popular herb commonly used for weight loss and body-building.
    The Food and Drug Administration has reports of 100 deaths among ephedra
    users.
    (BTW - Suffolk is on Long Island, NY)

  4. will you still be able to cap up your own E/C pills?

  5. Originally posted by BigVrunga
    will you still be able to cap up your own E/C pills?
    For now yes, unless you live in New York. In New York, ephedra is against the law.
    Last edited by Sheesh; 02-13-2003 at 07:03 PM.

  6. what about mu huang (sp?)

  7. Originally posted by BigVrunga
    what about mu huang (sp?)
    Ma Huang is ephedra.

  8. efx is the non-ephedrine system. RFA-1 is the ephedrine version, and they are both still ont he shelf.

  9. Kill VPX sports now, **** this these guys are literally ripping people off in the worst ways. i have heard of lab tests containing half of what the bottle says it does. And they are like 500 dollars for a bottle of **** that isnt even LEGIT? jesus christ that is lame.
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  10. They say that ephedra is responsible for 100 deaths, yet they don't say if it's an annual occurance or if it was over a stretch of time... Yet alcohol kills yearly, cigarettes are still legal, and R. Kelly still lives a block away from the middleschool!

  11. I got 2 words for y'all: Dymetadrine Extreme

    but yeah Hydroxycut and Betalean HP are going ephedrine free, I have not seen Xenadrine RFA-1 on the shelves in over a month, the place right by me that was selling Adipo pulled it from their shelves a couple of weeks ago...and....


    I'm getting my wizdom teeth jerked/pulled/cut out of my head the day after my birthday (b-day = 27th) this month .


    LG.
    Read This Book!!: Anabolic Steroids and the Athlete by William N. Taylor M.D.

  12. wont be a problem LG, had mine pulled about 6 weeks ago. all 4 were pulled, they were impacted etc etc.. still, had no problems on the drive home, no swelling, didnt use any pain killers, was completely fine. bled alot, but that was it. was on solid foods again the fourth day after, so wouldnt worry too much.

  13. Originally posted by bigpetefox
    and R. Kelly still lives a block away from the middleschool!
    ow ow

  14. its good that these products have a long shelf life. i already have two bottles of ripped fuel in the cabinet. the question is how many bottles should we all stock up? lol, its a dillema. my walmart still has alot of the bottles in stock.

  15. I don't know...10 lbs with hydroxycut while doing 30 mins, 5 times a week, for 8 weeks? I think you could probably lose more if you took the hydroxycut out of the equation. So much for their advertising strategy...lol

  16. Sorry, im probabaly late...
    Did that bill ever pass?
    The one banning the ph's?
    Or is this a different situation?

  17. This is a different subject. This has to do with the MLB pitcher that died last week or 2 weeks ago. I can't remember.

    No the PH bill still has not passed.

  18. Oh, ****
    Where have I been...
    Who died, and how?

  19. Steve Bechler, minor league pitcher for Baltimore. Took over the recommended dose, was 26lbs over weight, history of high blood pressure, family history of cardiovascular disease, was on a fast (starving) diet and severaly dehydrated......

    YellowJackets Advice to Life #103: Make sure you're in athletics if you're a complete dumbass, much like this guy.

  20. come on now... ephedra kills... (idiots)

  21. Yeah, he has a history, his family has a history
    hmm, I really wonder what could have happened?????

  22. yeah if they really think effedrine kills then they need to pull alcohol and cigs off the market. just because some stupid baseball player dies while on xenadrine doestn mean ****, he had a history of medical problem. a friend of mine was tellin me how she took like 8 xenadrine + in one day, i about bitch slapped her. its because of morons like her that make ppl like us suffer for xenadrine being pulled from markets. they need to start taking intelligence tests before they will let u buy supplements. ****in idiots

    this stuff just pisses me off, but i thought id thow in my 2 cents for what its worth

  23. I'm sorry...the C and the A in ECA stand for what?

  24. C = Caffeine, A = Aspirin

  25. this is cutting 101, I know, and I probably won't have to worry about it for years since I'm severe ecto...or if I want < 5%...but is some kind of ECA together with UA the supreme end all of a cutting cycle? Can and should this be run in conjunction with winny or another steroid, or should an AAS cutting cycle be separate? (again this has to do with my question about combining supplements and steroids so u never come off everything altogether...if only everything was like liver tabs. )

  26. I will miss Hydroxycut, but supplement companies especially Muscletech suck! They must know that their reputation is horrible, and that most bodybuilders laugh at them. If for once they could just man up, and say OK for someone that would prefer a safer alternative to ephedra we have created a new formula. It may not work as well, but it's better then nothing. There's a thought honesty! Xenadrine ads are the same BS! If morons would stop buying their Sh!t then we wouldn't have to view their stupid a$$ ads any longer.

    Peace!

  27. k this is a long thread so i didnt read it all, but heres some facts:

    Hydroxycut with ephedrine is no longer in production. Whatever you find out there, is the last of it. MuscleTech couldnt afford their insurance so they stopped producing it and started producing ephedrine free Hydroxycut.

    GNC no longer produces or carries GNC-made ephedra products, nto like you care

  28. Originally posted by N'Pursuit
    I will miss Hydroxycut, but supplement companies especially Muscletech suck! They must know that their reputation is horrible, and that most bodybuilders laugh at them. If for once they could just man up, and say OK for someone that would prefer a safer alternative to ephedra we have created a new formula. It may not work as well, but it's better then nothing. There's a thought honesty! Xenadrine ads are the same BS! If morons would stop buying their Sh!t then we wouldn't have to view their stupid a$$ ads any longer.

    Peace!
    yeh, but there's 25 times the $$ to be had by saying "look, this idiot lost 300 lbs in 15 weeks using EFX!" it's a little blatant, but think of how many 'unwashed' wannabe's there are who think they're in the know because they're using the latest cutting supp?

  29. Xenadrine and xen-immitation($14.99) is still on Target shelves down here in TX......mabe I should stock up on some.
  

  
 

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