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02-27-2010, 07:21 PM
Okay I'm gonna sign off now.
The thing we'd look for is whether your using a PH type thing... at which point we'd say "post in anabolics". If its some sort of herbal stuff then I'd reakon you'd get something better from the board sponsors. If its a preworkout type supp. (it sounds like it) might help your gym but not your football. Just guesses.
Nice to meet you... gotta dash.
02-27-2010, 09:15 PM
I would not take that product. . . It is a compilation of 3 actives steroids, superdrol, phera and halodrol. Not only would I not take it but, If you are in your senior year of football( Im guessing High School) then you should definitely not take this product as you are to young. You probably know nothing of the side effects that come with this product internal, external, mental. Also, you probably havent got a clue about PCT which is the most critical part. Do your self a favor stay away from this product.
02-27-2010, 09:30 PM
Ya id stay away from this because not only is it 3 ph's in one and it will wreak havoc on your liver you are in no way shape or form ready for ph as a senior in highschool. It is a very dangerous ph for a starter ph people reccomend just the halodrol not all. even though the h-drol and phera doses in this are low the 10mg of SD is enough and its just not worth it.
For people that dont know the product the ingredients are
4 chloro 17a methyl androst-1,4diene 17b-ol 25mg
2a 17 a di-methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol 10mg
17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 10 mg
And it reccomends two pills aday thats 20 mg or SD 50 HD and 20 Phera thats quite the stack 20 mg of SD of the bat is crazy enough let alone all the other.
02-28-2010, 04:06 AM
this is not my first cycle...my 1st cycle was rage t19 (19-Norandrosta-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione)stacked with epidrol (2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan-17b-Ol) over a 6 week period....this did not give me any side effects and i gained 8 pounds of muscle
02-28-2010, 10:21 AM
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02-28-2010, 08:10 PM
you took tren and epi and used an OTC route for pct 0.o
so many things could have gone wrong. tren can be some harsh stuff and it can make ur prolactin levels rise enough to pretty much make ur d*ck useless for a while after the cycle ends.
novadex xt just blocks estrogen. you need something prescription.... tamoxifen citrate or clomiphen citrate are what u really need. its what cancer patients use. and will protect your tits and jumpstart your testosterone level.
when u dont start properly planned you can go for many months or a life time with very low testosterone... which means u gain on cycle then lose it all and since ur test levels lower u will lose more muscle and be below where u started. besides that you can get gyno, which means your pecs will quickly turn in to something closely related to a highschool girls chest and without surgery, you will just be laughed at in the locker room. along with that, i cant even stress how hard prohormones/steroids are on the body. its so hard on your liver and blood. not to mention heart.
if you mix superdrol and phera... which are some of the harshest orals... i can image only bad stuff happening. not to mention superdrol is VERY likely to cause B*tch tits, so might wana warn your parents that ur gona need surgery.
hope i dont come off as an ass... but just dont do it
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02-28-2010, 08:18 PM
the way i took that cycle was suggested by the nutritionist i bought it from....what your saying is kinda disturbing!!
02-28-2010, 08:44 PM
Id like to meet the nutrionist that gave it to you jab hook uppercut him then when he is on the ground spit on his open wounds to put it lightly. By nutrionist i bet your meaning the guy behind GNC counter? I dont mean to be harsh but i mean you need to reasearch these things first and not just go by what people say please just take our advice and dont do another PH till your atleast 21 just please its not worth the risk.
02-28-2010, 08:49 PM
03-01-2010, 11:03 AM
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03-01-2010, 11:32 AM
We all know what phera, hdrol and SUPERDROL do.
Geee... how bad can it get?
Suppose you could have put Tren in there then you've stacked 3 PHs + 1 steriod (is that right?).
This is deffinately one for anabolics forum. You need excellent PCT, , blood pressure support. You'll get shutdown ON-SEASON. Boy ... now I see the FDAs worldview, sometimes.
To give you some idea many people think running Sdrol SOLO isn't a good idea. Hdrol is popular STAND ALONE. Phera is banned now?
03-01-2010, 08:37 PM
the scary thing is that this is how everyone i know takes their cycle (which is a lot)... and the guy i got this from had already taken it this way. since ive heard a million different answers im going to ask a legit doctor
03-01-2010, 08:54 PM
This is amazing that a NUTRITIONIST gave a teenager steroids!
Rex, you need to get the word out to your buddies, this is dangerous for someone your age even if you run a proper cycle/pct. The instant gains sound exciting but you will fuk up your body for the long haul. You are at your peak for building muscle right now, just takes some hard work.
Reps if you follow through and not take the Rage.
When an omega male is born it's game over
03-01-2010, 09:01 PM
hey bro i think you should check this out
FOR THOSE UNDER 21 WHO WANT TO RUN A PROHORMONE
I highly doubt a licensed nutritionist would tell a high schooler to use anabolics. who was the person who told you to take these products? was it a store owner or friends, SRS. but please do not take the RV5
03-01-2010, 09:06 PM
thanks for all this advice.... i think going to a doctor that i know for sure would know what hes talking about would be the best route
03-01-2010, 09:08 PM
03-01-2010, 09:36 PM
yeah bro if i was u go to your primary doctor because im going to assume u dont have an endo already. tell him you want to get bloodwork done and u can tell the truth or make up something, truth is always better tho and guaranteed to get u bloodwork done almost.
03-01-2010, 09:36 PM
I'll lay it down for you maybe save you a trip to the doctor. First there no way he will tell you any PH is safe or his medical liscense should be revoked. Heres some of the potential side effects of taking a PH/AAS at a young edge i.e teen age years.
1. Taking them when your body is not fully developed can cause some serious harm to your endocrine system.
2. By taking a PH at such a young age and training experience your not really building good habits your just taking the quick way out and later down the road your gonna need PH's just to make any gains at all.
3. Gyno im sure as hell because i was a teen not too long ago i sure as hell did not want bitch tits and im guessing you dont.
4.Premature closing of growth plates you may think your done growing but you dont truely stop till atleast your early 20's
5. You can basically mess up your test levels for life the term impotence comes to mind, problems can arise in testicular growth as well as fertility.
6.Liver your liver is oh so important, even with the support supps your minimizing the damage but there will always be damage.
7.Then theres all the stuff about acne,hair loss, which im sure you dont want to have terrible acne and no hair by 20.
These are only a few of the problems that can arise theres Psychological issues that can arise as well as legal issues its really really not worth it at such a young age.
03-01-2010, 09:48 PM
The DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE STACK
... the stack you are proposing is completely crazy.
Even post-21 that stack is crazy. Pre-21 ... the stack is "lethal".
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