Oral steroids can cause liver damage; Liver Juice can support the liver
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02-23-2010 08:53 PM
Primordial Performance Rep
Oral steroids can cause liver damage; Liver Juice can support the liver
Dear AM,
Liver Juice is now available.
New research suggests that supplementing with Liver Juice before and during your cycle, can greatly reduce the liver toxic effect from 17aa methylated steroids. Its works by increasing bile production in the liver and reducing the chance of developing reversible cholestasis. (the primary condition developed from use of 17aa oral steroids)(1-18)
Because Liver Juice delivers milk thistle so efficiently with the Liqua-Vade delivery system, it is one of the most cost effective milk thistle supplements on the market.
Liver Juice -
- Natural liver protector, rejuvenator and cleanser
- Absorbs 8x better than other milk thistle extracts
- Increases production of healthy bile salts
- Natural milk thistle extract has zero side-effects
- Protective against oral steroid induced toxicity
Unmatched Delivery System
To show the exceptional solubility accomplished with the milk thistle in our Liver Juice, we went ahead and took a 5mL dose (500mg) of Liver Juice and mixed it into a glass of water. We then took 500mg of the exact same milk thistle extract used in our Liver Juice, and vigorously shook it into a glass of water. Then they sat for 12 hours.
As you can see, the milk thistle in Liver Juice remained completely stable and molecularly dispersed in the liquid. The milk thistle powder alone simply crashed to the bottom of glass. (“crash” means to crystallize, separate or no longer be in solution -- aka, not be absorbed into the body)
Jim Benvie,
Primordial Performance Marketing
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The American Journal of Gastroenterology (2006) 101, 2659-2662;
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John Nasr and Jawad Ahmad
Digestive Diseases and Sciences
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The American Journal of Gastroenterology. Vol. 93, No. 2, 1998
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02-23-2010 08:56 PM
Primordial Performance Rep
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02-23-2010 10:08 PM
Sponsor
this company has the best products out IMO. how can i become a rep lol
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02-23-2010 10:33 PM
Board Sponsor
Originally Posted by
R1balla
this company has the best products out IMO. how can i become a rep lol
You have to fly out to Portland OR and beat me in an arm wrestling competition. Then we talk.
-Eric
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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02-24-2010 02:40 AM
UKStrength
Guest
Originally Posted by
Primordial Perf
You have to fly out to Portland OR and beat me in an arm wrestling competition. Then we talk.
-Eric
I gave Eric a slave to be a rep, it was the only way...the arm wrestling was too tough!
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02-24-2010 09:51 AM
Sponsor
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02-24-2010 10:32 AM
Registered User
With regular Milk Thistle, I noticed my skin clear up for two weeks, and then I had a bad breakout at the end of those two weeks. Any chance of that on this product?
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02-24-2010 06:29 PM
Registered User
nice to see PP put out another quality Liqua vade product ill def have to grab some of this for my net methyl run.... im thinking maybe turinabol LV or something softer like that
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02-24-2010 06:46 PM
Primordial Performance Rep
Originally Posted by
UKStrength
I gave Eric a slave to be a rep, it was the only way...the arm wrestling was too tough!
Thanks bro, she's a big help around the house
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02-24-2010 06:50 PM
Registered User
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02-24-2010 08:18 PM
Registered User
I thought liqua vade was supposed to get stuff PAST your liver. Isn't that how it works in Sustain Alpha?
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02-25-2010 09:09 AM
Registered User
Originally Posted by
UKStrength
I gave Eric a slave to be a rep, it was the only way...the arm wrestling was too tough!
Hahaha, but i have to agree that PP makes the best products hands down, which makes it the best company. You guys are great keep it up. Oh and yea liver juice is the best milk thstle supplement and it has become a staple supplement for me!!!!!
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02-25-2010 01:51 PM
Board Sponsor
Originally Posted by
kingdong
I thought liqua vade was supposed to get stuff PAST your liver. Isn't that how it works in Sustain Alpha?
LV gets compounds past the intestinal walls. What happens from their is upto the compound.
(although if you swoosh LV around in the mouth some of the active compounds will absorb directly into the blood and avoid the fist liver pass)
-Eric
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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03-11-2010 03:38 PM
Primordial Performance Rep
anyone start a cycle with this yet?
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04-28-2010 01:56 PM
Board Sponsor
Originally Posted by
trojanman1016
Hahaha, but i have to agree that PP makes the best products hands down, which makes it the best company. You guys are great keep it up. Oh and yea liver juice is the best milk thstle supplement and it has become a staple supplement for me!!!!!
Glad to know.
Ive got some interesting research here about milk thistle lowering cholesterol, presumably by increasing bile acid formation from cholesterol in the liver...
I was going to make a write up soon.
Silymarin as a potential hypocholesterolaemic drug.
N. Scottova et al.
Physiol. Res. 47; 1-7, 1998
-Eric
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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04-28-2010 01:58 PM
Registered User
How does this product compare to NAC or SAMe? From everything that I have read NAC or SAMe owns milk thistle on many levels. Not just as a liver protectant.
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04-28-2010 06:14 PM
Board Sponsor
Originally Posted by
Heracles25
How does this product compare to NAC or SAMe? From everything that I have read NAC or SAMe owns milk thistle on many levels. Not just as a liver protectant.
Their different products with different actions.
Milk Thistle (and UDCA type bile acids) are the only compounds Im aware of that will really help prevent steroid induced choestasis, which is really want you want. SAMe can help with increase the sulfation pathway which can possibly protect against cholestasis but I wouldn't say its better than milk thistle -- it could be stacked though.
-Eric
www.primordialperformance.com
Please no PM's. I don't check them often. If you want a fast response please email me, or get in touch with one of the PP reps. I don't get on the forums often, so if I don't respond to your post, please don't be offended. -eric
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04-29-2010 10:07 AM
Registered User
Originally Posted by
Primordial Perf
Glad to know.
Ive got some interesting research here about milk thistle lowering cholesterol, presumably by increasing bile acid formation from cholesterol in the liver...
I was going to make a write up soon.
Silymarin as a potential hypocholesterolaemic drug.
N. Scottova et al.
Physiol. Res. 47; 1-7, 1998
-Eric
That got my attention! Definatly looking forward to reading that.
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06-18-2010 05:18 PM
Primordial Performance Rep
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06-18-2010 05:24 PM
Registered User
might get some of that for my hdrol 6 week cycle
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