- 02-23-2010, 08:05 PM
- 02-23-2010, 08:24 PM
xpand or jacked. cant decide. jacked is only like 23 bucks
- 03-03-2010, 02:39 PM
my experience with xpand has been great...used to use BSN No Xplode...gave me anxiety (kept me up), due to the extra stimulants...very happy with Xpand just watch out that your not pissing creatine Ethl if you take a creatine supp in addition.
03-03-2010, 03:01 PM
03-03-2010, 03:04 PM
Jack3d. if possible, PreSurge Unleashed
03-05-2010, 09:39 AM
ive tried jack3d. hated it. i think i may try xpand. thanks guys!
03-05-2010, 11:50 AM
what was your experience with it other than you hated it?
03-05-2010, 04:00 PM
i didnt experience any pump, energy, or growth with it. nothing from it at all. used it for 4 weeks, proper training and diet. got nothing.
03-05-2010, 04:34 PM
You said you experienced no energy from it? Did you take it on an empty stomach (i.e. approx. 90-120 min. after a meal).
Growth? You don't grow from taking supplements. You grow from eating more calories than you burn, lifting hard, and sleeping 8+a night.
Four weeks is an extremely short period of time to be able to accurately and effectively assess anything.
Don't listen to me though. I don't know what I'm talking about.
03-05-2010, 08:01 PM
- 6'0" 190 lbs.
- Join Date
- Oct 2004
03-06-2010, 12:01 AM
pump = energy and feeling i wanna lift hard. i dunno how to explain it. the original NO shotgun gave me a huge pump and got my energy sky high with no crash. and no crap. i know how to take a supplement and i know how to eat and train. i dont expect growth ONLY from a supplement. i DO expect to see something. i didnt see anything. and u can see how it works for your workouts in one dose. at least, i can. thats why i ask for samples for pre workouts. 4 weeks is plenty of time
03-06-2010, 12:18 PM
03-06-2010, 01:29 PM
well thats what i meant. i dont expect to see major gains. i do expect to see energy and/or a pump pr mental focus from first dose. didnt see it in 4 weeks with jack3d. NO SHOTGUN, the original one, is the best pre workout i have EVER had.
03-06-2010, 01:40 PM
Just curious, why do you want a product that gives you a good pump? Pumps are nothing but mental masturbation, they don't do anything for actual muscle growth.
03-06-2010, 02:30 PM
larger veins = more blood flow = more nutrients to the muscles.
03-06-2010, 03:45 PM
03-06-2010, 04:40 PM
i just bought some plain mono and iso mass which has aakg in it. ima see how this works
05-01-2010, 01:07 PM
05-02-2010, 12:48 AM
05-18-2010, 12:07 AM
Im about to get some xpand. I have tried samples of Scivation Vasocharge and it's alos another to consider.
I've used tons of preWO supps, very few are something i'd re-buy.
On a scale 1 -10, 10 being high i'd say...
WTF Pumped = 9, gotta leave room for better
NO-Shotgun = 7
Ragnarok = 5
Anadraulic Pump = 8, but need to dose higher
NO-Xplode = 5
Personal mixes have worked best i think...
Glycerol mono sterate and 10-14oz water is AMAZING.
Arginine, mono, cit. malate.
Glutamine alone was great.
If Xpand doesnt satisfy me ill be going back to my own mixes. Cheap and in some juice taste fine.
05-18-2010, 09:43 PM
05-18-2010, 09:53 PM
Go with the xpand. Its good stuff. I use one scoop and it is plenty. With jack3d i had to use three scoops. So with my dosing i get 40 doses of xpand and only 15 doses of jack3d. Xpand equals out being cheaper.
05-20-2010, 12:03 AM
Just bought some. Its a good bang for the buck product, I have tried NO explode, Black Powder and NO Shotgun in the past, I have to say NO Shotgun was the best.
05-24-2010, 04:10 PM
i agree. the ORIGINAL NO Shotgun was the best pre workout ever
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