HGHUp andis fine. I'm on both plus and OEP on a cut right now. DTP would probably be unneccesary, as HGHUp and are both testosterone boosters. What to expect depends on what you're aiming for (bulk / cut). I'm increasing strength on a cut with a real low carb diet right now, I'm leaning out a bit, and the HGHUp is giving me super deep sleep too.