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  1. if ur allergic to triancanna its probn because or alleergis to shellfish i.e iodine


  2. Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    if ur allergic to triancanna its probn because or alleergis to shellfish i.e iodine
    PUT DOWN THE BONG, MISTER!

  3. omg i mutilate the english language worse than anyone...lol..if ur allergic to shellfish u prob will develope a rash to tricanna..lol
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  4. I'm not allergic to triac MaddCapp, I'm allergic to T3. It's not the actual thyroid hormone, it's a synthetic version of it

  5. can u stack this with avant's HEAt, or could i stack heat with usnic and then take this with lipo6

  6. I would imagine you could stack it with most anything other than other thyroid products.

  7. interesting stuff here..I am going to get some next pay day....when I start my official cutting cycle...

    So far I am thinking Triac, M4ohn, Lipoderm Y, and well see...


    also supersoldier, keep us updated with test results if you can..


    h19

  8. Quote Originally Posted by hamper19
    interesting stuff here..I am going to get some next pay day....when I start my official cutting cycle...

    So far I am thinking Triac, M4ohn, Lipoderm Y, and well see...


    also supersoldier, keep us updated with test results if you can..


    h19
    Me too. Gonna try and cut, starting in May. Will run Tri-max along with ECY. I'm hopeing the Tri works as well with me as it did with others. I really need to lose some of this fat. I'll prolly cut most high gi carbs....processed/refined carbs and increase cardio.

  9. where are u getting the m40hn from

  10. designer supps has it on his site..

    www.designersupps.com it is liquid

    h19
  11. At 3 caps/day


    T3 >800 (above linearity for the machine ); T4 2.1; Free T4 0.84

    And the fat is straight MELTING off my abs (Drip, drip... Clean up on Isle 4 )

  12. Better get some while you still can!

  13. How's the LBM retention w/the Methyl-D?

    Also, is there any way you can get a read on your T3? How much above normal is >800?

  14. Sorry--I just found your basline T3 level of 142.86. So you're seeing like a 7 fold increse in a week?? Dude you'd better be dropping some lbs!

  15. From WebMD:
    Total triiodothyronine (T3):
    70195 ng/dL

  16. SS -

    Are your lifts all staying up, or are you dropping some LBM along with the fat?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MaddCapp
    SS -

    Are your lifts all staying up, or are you dropping some LBM along with the fat?
    Actually I lost a bit of LBM and my lifts were **** for a little more then a week, but it's because I made a solution of M-Dien with Everclear, and it didn't hold in solution at all. It took me over a week to figure this out . I wasn't shaking the solution (mixture) either, and I was drawing with an oral syringe from the top . So I was probably getting very little M-Dien while on the Tri-Max with very little calories (for me). Since I figured this out and now I'm shaking it and drawing from the middle or bottom (and added something ), my lifts are back up and my I'm looking pretty swole again.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier
    Actually I lost a bit of LBM and my lifts were **** for a little more then a week, but it's because I made a solution of M-Dien with Everclear, and it didn't hold in solution at all. It took me over a week to figure this out . I wasn't shaking the solution (mixture) either, and I was drawing with an oral syringe from the top . So I was probably getting very little M-Dien while on the Tri-Max with very little calories (for me).
    That sucks. Glad you figured it out and are bouncing back.

    How much M-dien are you taking? I'm thinking I'll run a low dose of M-dien for 4 weeks along with some m5aa pre-workout. Gonna run the TriMax week 1 - 1 tab/D; weeks 2&3 - 2 tabs/D; week 4 - 1 tab/D.

    5 weeks to kick-off. Can't wait

  19. Quote Originally Posted by custom
    How's the LBM retention w/the Methyl-D?

    Also, is there any way you can get a read on your T3? How much above normal is >800?
    I could get a read if I did a dilution. Only problem is that I don't work in Chemistry where the tests are done, and the lady working in there now isn't as cool as the guy that usually works there. She already told me "You're T3 is really high, I've never seen a T3 that needs to be diluted before." So I don't want to arouse her suspicions any further. Next week I'll get an accurate reading, or maybe Sunday or Monday night.

  20. Clen with TriMax sounds appealing

    Great thread guys, I'm gonna take a dab at a few bottles

  21. T3 diluted 1:2 684.26
    1368.52 ng/dl of T3 on 3caps/day of Tri-Max

    Get it while it's hot!!!

    I just found out that there's a test for Free T3 that the machine will do, but we're out of reagent Out of reagent for Total T4 too, but Free T4 was 0.90, and TSH was (you guessed it) 0.00

  22. Wow. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes to rebound. Are you going to taper off? You going to run it for one more week?

  23. Whoa, nice numbers bud. How much weight did you lose off of that? Jesus. I think you had one of the best baselines to judge from anyway with everything being so "normal".

    Though, I would also like to see how your recovery goes. I would imagine you're gonna taper off? How long were you running the 3 caps?

  24. I don't see any reason to taper off. Nobody tapers off AAS. The way I look at it is this: TSH is shutdown the way LH would be on a AAS cycle. 1 cap of Tri-Max is gonna shut down TSH just like 3 caps will, and 10mg of M1T will shut down LH just like 30mg will. So I could decrease to 2, then 1 cap/day, but I'll still be ON and still shut down. And I'm gonna go for 2 more weeks

  25. Don't know if anyone posted this.. kind of interesting and on topic

    Potent thermogenic action of triiodothyroacetic acid in brown adipocytes.

    Medina-Gomez G, Hernandez A, Calvo RM, Martin E, Obregon MJ.


    Instituto Investigaciones Biomedicas (C.S.I.C.-UAM), Arturo Duperier 4, 28029 Madrid, Spain.

    Triiodothyroacetic acid (TRIAC) is a triiodothyronine (T3) metabolite with high affinity for T3 nuclear receptors. We compared the thermogenic action of TRIAC versus T3 in brown adipocytes, by studying target genes known to mediate thermogenic action: uncoupling protein 1 (UCP-1), a marker of brown adipocytes, and type II-5'deiodinase (D2), which provides the T3 required for thermogenesis. TRIAC is 10-50 times more potent than T3 at increasing the adrenergic induction of UCP-1 mRNA and D2 activities. TRIAC action on UCP-1 is exerted at the transcriptional level. In the presence of an adrenergic stimulus, TRIAC is also more potent than T3, inducing lipoprotein lipase mRNA and 5 deiodinase (D3) activity and mRNA. Maximal effects occur at very low concentrations (0.2 nM). The greater potency of TRIAC is not due to preferential cellular or nuclear uptake. Therefore, TRIAC is a potent thermogenic agent that might increase energy expenditure and regulate T3 production in brown adipocytes.

  26. How much weight have you lost so far? Any updates?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier
    I don't see any reason to taper off. Nobody tapers off AAS. The way I look at it is this: TSH is shutdown the way LH would be on a AAS cycle. 1 cap of Tri-Max is gonna shut down TSH just like 3 caps will, and 10mg of M1T will shut down LH just like 30mg will. So I could decrease to 2, then 1 cap/day, but I'll still be ON and still shut down. And I'm gonna go for 2 more weeks
    Given that theory... how are you going to prevent rebound?

    A

  28. how would usnic acid be for a post cycle, to prevent too much fat gain

  29. Quote Originally Posted by houseman
    Given that theory... how are you going to prevent rebound?

    A
    L-tyrosine and 7-keto?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by fieyaa
    How much weight have you lost so far? Any updates?
    I haven't been on a scale in a while, but I've lost a ton of fat from my midsection with almost no cardio.

  31. Quote Originally Posted by hamper19
    L-tyrosine and 7-keto?
    yep, that's my plan

  32. Quote Originally Posted by par deus
    Yes, you are wrong, IMO.

    7-keto increase thyroid signalling, not TSH or thyroid levels.

    It actually might slow down true recovery, though to whatever extent it did this, it would have increased thyroid activity.
    Posted from avant labs when i asked about recovery..

  33. How bout guggle with that mix?

  34. Quote Originally Posted by fieyaa
    Posted from avant labs when i asked about recovery..

    what did he say yes to? and what was Par's solution?

  35. Quote Originally Posted by hamper19
    what did he say yes to? and what was Par's solution?
    I would like to know this also...can you provide a link to the discussion or in what forum on avant's board that was in.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by nandi at Avant
    How long have you been on your cycle? There are many misunderstandings about the thyroid. You have about a 2 month supply of T4 stored in your thyroid (5000 mcg in the average 20 g gland) plus another 1000 mcg stored peripherally. Moreover, the body has a poorly understood "thermostat" that upregulates the conversion of T4 to T3 when T4 is depressed (1). In (1) subjects were put on a month long T3 cycle: 50 mcg/day week 1; 75/day week 2; then 100/day weeks 3 & 4, then stopped abruptly. Six days after withdrawal TSH was back in the normal range; 8 days after withdrawal it had returned to baseline and then spiked above baseline until dropping back to baseline by day 42. The point being TSH recovery is very fast.

    As for thyroid hormone levels, after going cold turkey T3 dropped to only 22% below baseline and had returned to normal within 2 weeks. The 22% drop in T3 compared to a 60% drop in T4 represents the "thermostat" upregulating conversion of T4 to T3 in a state of thyroid suppression.

    Your thyroid will come back quickly after only a minor suppression of T3 (22%) during a relatively heavy cycle (100 mcg/day). I would not even worry about trying to speed recovery.


    (1) J Clin Invest. 1984 Feb;73(2):570-5.

    Peripheral tissue mechanism for maintenance of serum triiodothyronine values in a thyroxine-deficient state in man.

    Lum SM, Nicoloff JT, Spencer CA, Kaptein EM.
    Just do a search for 'thyroid recovery' at Avant - (where this was cut and paste from).

    Also suggested by other posters there - ECA increases T4 conversion to T3, maintenance calories, and Keep carbs up.

  37. http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=1&t=9110&st=30

    you have to sign up.. but here is the question i asked..

    Quote Originally Posted by fieyaa
    Quote Originally Posted by Par Deus
    Anyone with t3 or triac (or maybe even t2), I would love to hear feedback, in combo with FL7 and SesaThin, and it should be incredibly synergistic for fat loss.
    I received a bunch of triac the other day was actually going to run FL7 post triac to try to bring TSH levels back to normal. Am I wrong to think that FL7 would do this?

    Might give SesaThin a try. Reading some good reviews over at AM also about the new HEAT stack.. To many options

  38. he was saying that it might increase the time it took for total thyroid recovery, but would make the transition more smooth.

  39. Thanks for the info.

  40. I'm on day 12 of Tri-max and have lost about 7lbs I'm using it as one would T3, with a test/winny cutter, and it's definitely all fat, no muscle loss at all! I would recommend adding an androgen or watching clas very closely. This is working damn well, I'm dropping fat like it's going out of style
  

  
 

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