- 04-16-2004, 09:55 PM
- 04-16-2004, 10:00 PM
- 04-16-2004, 10:07 PM
omg i mutilate the english language worse than anyone...lol..if ur allergic to shellfish u prob will develope a rash to tricanna..lol
04-16-2004, 10:52 PM
I'm not allergic to triac MaddCapp, I'm allergic to T3. It's not the actual thyroid hormone, it's a synthetic version of it
04-18-2004, 09:51 AM
04-18-2004, 05:53 PM
04-19-2004, 03:30 PM
interesting stuff here..I am going to get some next pay day....when I start my official cutting cycle...
So far I am thinking Triac, M4ohn, Y, and well see...
also supersoldier, keep us updated with test results if you can..
04-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Me too. Gonna try and cut, starting in May. Will run Tri-max along with ECY. I'm hopeing the Tri works as well with me as it did with others. I really need to lose some of this fat. I'll prolly cut most high gi carbs....processed/refined carbs and increase cardio.Originally Posted by hamper19
04-19-2004, 06:26 PM
04-19-2004, 06:42 PM
04-22-2004, 08:16 PM
At 3 caps/day
T3 >800 (above linearity for the machine ); T4 2.1; Free T4 0.84
And the fat is straight MELTING off my abs (Drip, drip... Clean up on Isle 4 )
04-22-2004, 08:17 PM
04-22-2004, 08:18 PM
How's the LBM retention w/the Methyl-D?
Also, is there any way you can get a read on your T3? How much above normal is >800?
04-22-2004, 08:30 PM
Sorry--I just found your basline T3 level of 142.86. So you're seeing like a 7 fold increse in a week?? Dude you'd better be dropping some lbs!
04-22-2004, 08:40 PM
04-22-2004, 09:15 PM
04-22-2004, 09:33 PM
Actually I lost a bit of LBM and my lifts were **** for a little more then a week, but it's because I made a solution of M-Dien with Everclear, and it didn't hold in solution at all. It took me over a week to figure this out . I wasn't shaking the solution (mixture) either, and I was drawing with an oral syringe from the top . So I was probably getting very little M-Dien while on the Tri-Max with very little calories (for me). Since I figured this out and now I'm shaking it and drawing from the middle or bottom (and added something ), my lifts are back up and my I'm looking pretty swole again.Originally Posted by MaddCapp
04-22-2004, 09:53 PM
That sucks. Glad you figured it out and are bouncing back.Originally Posted by supersoldier
How much M-dien are you taking? I'm thinking I'll run a low dose of M-dien for 4 weeks along with some m5aa pre-workout. Gonna run the TriMax week 1 - 1 tab/D; weeks 2&3 - 2 tabs/D; week 4 - 1 tab/D.
5 weeks to kick-off. Can't wait
04-22-2004, 11:58 PM
I could get a read if I did a dilution. Only problem is that I don't work in Chemistry where the tests are done, and the lady working in there now isn't as cool as the guy that usually works there. She already told me "You're T3 is really high, I've never seen a T3 that needs to be diluted before." So I don't want to arouse her suspicions any further. Next week I'll get an accurate reading, or maybe Sunday or Monday night.Originally Posted by custom
04-23-2004, 08:46 AM
04-27-2004, 04:55 AM
T3 diluted 1:2 684.26
1368.52 ng/dl of T3 on 3caps/day of Tri-Max
Get it while it's hot!!!
I just found out that there's a test for Free T3 that the machine will do, but we're out of reagent Out of reagent for Total T4 too, but Free T4 was 0.90, and TSH was (you guessed it) 0.00
04-27-2004, 09:01 AM
Wow. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes to rebound. Are you going to taper off? You going to run it for one more week?
04-27-2004, 09:33 AM
Whoa, nice numbers bud. How much weight did you lose off of that? Jesus. I think you had one of the best baselines to judge from anyway with everything being so "normal".
Though, I would also like to see how your recovery goes. I would imagine you're gonna taper off? How long were you running the 3 caps?
04-27-2004, 10:16 PM
I don't see any reason to taper off. Nobody tapers off AAS. The way I look at it is this: TSH is shutdown the way LH would be on a AAS cycle. 1 cap of Tri-Max is gonna shut down TSH just like 3 caps will, and 10mg of M1T will shut down LH just like 30mg will. So I could decrease to 2, then 1 cap/day, but I'll still be ON and still shut down. And I'm gonna go for 2 more weeks
04-27-2004, 10:48 PM
Don't know if anyone posted this.. kind of interesting and on topic
Potent thermogenic action of triiodothyroacetic acid in brown adipocytes.
Medina-Gomez G, Hernandez A, Calvo RM, Martin E, Obregon MJ.
Instituto Investigaciones Biomedicas (C.S.I.C.-UAM), Arturo Duperier 4, 28029 Madrid, Spain.
Triiodothyroacetic acid (TRIAC) is a triiodothyronine (T3) metabolite with high affinity for T3 nuclear receptors. We compared the thermogenic action of TRIAC versus T3 in brown adipocytes, by studying target genes known to mediate thermogenic action: uncoupling protein 1 (UCP-1), a marker of brown adipocytes, and type II-5'deiodinase (D2), which provides the T3 required for thermogenesis. TRIAC is 10-50 times more potent than T3 at increasing the adrenergic induction of UCP-1 mRNA and D2 activities. TRIAC action on UCP-1 is exerted at the transcriptional level. In the presence of an adrenergic stimulus, TRIAC is also more potent than T3, inducing lipoprotein lipase mRNA and 5 deiodinase (D3) activity and mRNA. Maximal effects occur at very low concentrations (0.2 nM). The greater potency of TRIAC is not due to preferential cellular or nuclear uptake. Therefore, TRIAC is a potent thermogenic agent that might increase energy expenditure and regulate T3 production in brown adipocytes.
04-27-2004, 11:02 PM
04-28-2004, 07:34 AM
04-28-2004, 02:57 PM
04-28-2004, 04:15 PM
04-28-2004, 11:51 PM
I haven't been on a scale in a while, but I've lost a ton of fat from my midsection with almost no cardio.Originally Posted by fieyaa
04-29-2004, 12:21 AM
04-29-2004, 02:48 AM
04-29-2004, 02:50 AM
04-29-2004, 06:41 AM
04-29-2004, 08:20 AM
I would like to know this also...can you provide a link to the discussion or in what forum on avant's board that was in.Originally Posted by hamper19
04-29-2004, 09:26 AM
Just do a search for 'thyroid recovery' at Avant - (where this was cut and paste from).Originally Posted by nandi at Avant
Also suggested by other posters there - ECA increases T4 conversion to T3, maintenance calories, and Keep carbs up.
04-29-2004, 10:26 AM
04-29-2004, 12:28 PM
he was saying that it might increase the time it took for total thyroid recovery, but would make the transition more smooth.
04-29-2004, 01:27 PM
05-04-2004, 01:21 PM
I'm on day 12 of Tri-max and have lost about 7lbs I'm using it as one would T3, with a test/winny cutter, and it's definitely all fat, no muscle loss at all! I would recommend adding an androgen or watching clas very closely. This is working damn well, I'm dropping fat like it's going out of style
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