Did you guys read about this on ergo-log? Three grams D-aspartic acid raises testosterone levels by a third
From what i can find searching on google it seems legit.
From what i can find searching on google it seems legit.
Eeeewwwww......It also increases prolactin...
You can negate this with a supplementYeah it is not a good idea to take large amounts of aspartic acid. Asp Acid actually activates the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor (NMDA), which is a Glu receptor. The NMDA receptor is actually what is one of the problems in Alzheimer's disease. In Alzheimer's you have decreased cholinergic transmission and overexcited NMDA activation which causes something called excitotoxicity. I am not saying that you will develop Alzheimer's, that would be a bit naive , however, anything that causes excitotoxicity is not something worth using.
It is also a player in migraines and is a trigger for a large number of people.
Negate what? A migraine? No. Negative.You can negate this with a supplement
Yeah there are a few things to help with migraines such as the ergotamines and triptans but other than that there isn't much help. They aren't 100% successful either. Although he may not be having a migraine either could just be a typical tension headache, just depends on how it presents.You can negate this with a supplement
wow. what are they thinking?two companies are soon releasing products with d-aspartic acid.
Muscle Warfare and anabolic xtreme.
i believe they are thinking $ ...wow. what are they thinking?
i believe they are thinking $ ...
yikes at this and the prolactin....I guess we should stick to relying on our <5% Divinyl?it's really really bad for you.
let me find a link.....
This is copy and pasted from another forum with a thread about it:
d-Aspartic acid induced oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunctions in testis of prepubertal rats
Abstract Previously we demonstrated the potential of d-aspartic acid (d-Asp), an acidic amino acid to induce oxidative response in prepubertal rat testis in vitro. In the present study, we determined the extent of oxidative stress in the testis of prepubertal rats that were administered d-Asp (100 and 500 mg/kg bw/d, i.p. 7 days). d-Asp treatment significantly elevated the levels of reactive oxygen species, malondialdehyde and hydroperoxide in cytosol and mitochondria of testis, which were accompanied by enhanced glutathione levels, elevated activities of glutathione-dependent enzymes and catalase suggesting a state of oxidative stress. Further, the activities of d-aspartate oxidase and 3β-hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase were elevated in the testis. The testis mitochondria of d-Asp-treated rats showed altered citric acid and complex enzyme activities, reduction in membrane potential, increased permeability and intracellular Ca2+ levels. Collectively, these findings suggest the potential of d-Asp to induce oxidative perturbations in the testis of prepubertal rats and this mechanism may in part be responsible for the observed physiological effects.
...so it might be bad, might not, but there doesn't seem to be any human studies.
I guess you're just screwed then! If you're a pre-pubertal rat (rats don't even have testosterone receptors by the way.)yikes at this and the prolactin....I guess we should stick to relying on our <5% Divinyl?
Let me say this bro, Nutra's Divanex is better than any other form of divanil(divanex), secondly if something raises prolactin you combat it, I am more concerned with its toxicity. HGHup plus this sounds like fun, but there needs to be more research on its effects on health.yikes at this and the prolactin....I guess we should stick to relying on our <5% Divinyl?
Which products?two companies are soon releasing products with d-aspartic acid.
Muscle Warfare and anabolic xtreme.
This is only in large amounts correct? Eric said he drank a lot of our new Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 to get the flavoring right and said he ended up with a headache....but he drank a lot.Yeah it is not a good idea to take large amounts of aspartic acid. Asp Acid actually activates the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor (NMDA), which is a Glu receptor. The NMDA receptor is actually what is one of the problems in Alzheimer's disease. In Alzheimer's you have decreased cholinergic transmission and overexcited NMDA activation which causes something called excitotoxicity. I am not saying that you will develop Alzheimer's, that would be a bit naive , however, anything that causes excitotoxicity is not something worth using.
It is also a player in migraines and is a trigger for a large number of people.
i think he drank almost a full bottleThis is only in large amounts correct? Eric said he drank a lot of our new Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 to get the flavoring right and said he ended up with a headache....but he drank a lot.
lol Test levels now at 450%i think he drank almost a full bottle
nice man, cant wait to hear your feedback!i just picked up some TCF1 when i try it i will try to keep you guys posted.
There was testing, that is what we are basing our recommendations on. The dose and duration of use we are suggesting is the exact dosing that was used in the tests that provided a 42% increase in total test.this is why the supplement industry gets a bad rap.....no testing...maybe all the big players can get together and do safety studies on some of these products before big bad government decides to protect us from ourselves and take them away
Tastes like grape candy...:tongue2:Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 is sodium D-aspartate which can raise total testosterone 42% in 12 days. We just released it yesterday, but it's on sale for 30% off for the next week, only $20.97.
with sodium d-aspartate or d-aspartic acid?I've had solid results from 2.3g/day. (230lbs, 10mg per lb/day)
4.55 mg / kg for true SI folksI've had solid results from 2.3g/day. (230lbs, 10mg per lb/day)
With d-Aspartic acid. If you're interested in salts or racemic forms, you must multiply to obtain the equivalence...with sodium d-aspartate or d-aspartic acid?
Thanks but keep in mind this in theory WILL increase estrogen because SHBG binds both test and estrogens. It should combine well with I3C or SERM for estrogen control.Let me say this bro, Nutra's Divanex is better than any other form of divanil(divanex), secondly if something raises prolactin you combat it, I am more concerned with its toxicity. HGHup plus this sounds like fun, but there needs to be more research on its effects on health.
I like it! It's subtle, but I certainly noticed it right from the first day. I get an uplift in my mood for starters, but it can turn into a harder edged focus at very high doses. It works fast. Strength goes up and endurance to a lesser degree. So does libido in my case, and I'm married so that's pretty amazing (j/k!)Dr.D how did you like it, what kind of gains/benefits did you notice? Im ordering 2 bottles of Testosterone Conversion Factor-1, for PCT.
Dr-D: What's the difference between the flavone in Sustain alpha and the one used in Reversitol V2? The one in Sustain Alpha works like a champ for me every time, lean out a bit, nuts plump up, libido up, alpha mood - The one in RV2 does nothing for me, even double dosed. I'd like to find a cheaper or bulk source for the flavone in Sustain Alpha (7,8?) as I think it's the only ingredient doing anything (the resveratrol is too low of a dose to get any kind of AI effect, I know, I've taken resveratrol 99% 1g+/day on many occasions and that's about the dose where I get the libido boost/AI effect).There's a new AI out in several products now called 7-Methoxyflavone, and it's all natural too. 50mg is all you probably need to control estro and synergize as an additional test booster, or up to 150mg for a solo test booster or very stubborn estrogen related problems.
I haven't tried the products you speak of, but the AI in Sustain Alpha appears to be 7,8-Benzoflavone, while the one in RV2 appears to be 7-Methoxyflavone. I was not aware of a "7,8 methoxyflavone" that was available from CC, but it sounds like the nomenclature is slightly off maybe. I agree that resveratrol in not a practical ingredient unless it's dosed properly, but I have heard good reviews about both of those products.Dr-D: What's the difference between the flavone in Sustain alpha and the one used in Reversitol V2? The one in Sustain Alpha works like a champ for me every time, lean out a bit, nuts plump up, libido up, alpha mood - The one in RV2 does nothing for me, even double dosed. I'd like to find a cheaper or bulk source for the flavone in Sustain Alpha (7,8?) as I think it's the only ingredient doing anything (the resveratrol is too low of a dose to get any kind of AI effect, I know, I've taken resveratrol 99% 1g+/day on many occasions and that's about the dose where I get the libido boost/AI effect).
I see custom capsule has 7,8 methoxyflavone (same thing in sustain alpha?) - Is that the only source? I hear it takes forever to get an order from them.
CC has 99% 7,8-Benzoflavone.I haven't tried the products you speak of, but the AI in Sustain Alpha appears to be 7,8-Benzoflavone, while the one in RV2 appears to be 7-Methoxyflavone. I was not aware of a "7,8 methoxyflavone" that was available from CC, but it sounds like the nomenclature is slightly off maybe. I agree that resveratrol in not a practical ingredient unless it's dosed properly, but I have heard good reviews about both of those products.
I bet he has a patent still pending for 6-Oxo too.I believe Patrick Arnold has a patent pending for the use of DAA to increase testosterone in the human body or the likes, read something about it bb dotcom.
It's a study pointing out the finer mechanics of AA (arachidonic acid) potentiation at these subreceptors (glycine and glutamate NMDAs.) It amplifies the currents and increases calcium concentrations. DHA and other PUFAs do it too.Found a study on AA and NMDA. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1371330, like to know your thoughts on it Dr.D or anyone else with a better grasp of the sceince in the study.
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