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    what in your opinion is best for pct in general?


    what OTC PCT product do you think is the overall best to include in PCT to get your body back on track?? just looking for opinions here thanks

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    clomid/nolva stack with hcg bridge.....oh and lhjo helps a ton when you come off the neovar too!

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    It depends on what your cycle looks like. For most cycles, I prefer low dose nolva stacked with sustain alpha, a test booster, and a cortisol controller like lean xtreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdelquie View Post
    It depends on what your cycle looks like. For most cycles, I prefer low dose nolva stacked with sustain alpha, a test booster, and a cortisol controller like lean xtreme.
    Good posting - i like clomid over nolva but SA and lean xtreme are staples in my PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdelquie View Post
    It depends on what your cycle looks like.
    I've got to know...WTF do you get this idea that how your endogenous testosterone is inhibited determine how you need to restore it?
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    perhaps i should edit this...i mean otc thanks
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    Well there have been studies that show that for nandro-based steroids, which can potentially induce prolactin-related side effects, it is best not to use nolvadex as this can accelerate these sides (e.g. prolactin-induced gyno.) Also, milder cycle may not need hcg, for example, whereas for harsher cycles hcg can be an absolute must.
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    post the study
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    i have heard similar to that about nandro based products, and should i start a different thread titled better??
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    ^^^^broscience....your call on the thread but just fyi...prolactin can only flare in a high estrogen enviroment. Therefore control estrogen and you control prolactin
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    i don't believe in running hCG during PCT. an artificial LH would suppress the bodies own LH and thus inhibit recovery. hCG should be run on cycle to keep the boys responding IMO.
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    Serm and natty test booster in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Serm and natty test booster in general.
    Yup. I think it is just good practice to run a low dose AI after the SERM to prevent bounce back estrogen. Also a fan of AI's post cycle support with sustain alpha and my serm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Yup. I think it is just good practice to run a low dose AI after the SERM to prevent bounce back estrogen. Also a fan of AI's post cycle support with sustain alpha and my serm.
    That is a strong pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    That is a strong pct.
    thanks i like to go all out on pct. I usually feel like s*it after a good cycle so the quicker I reboot the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    thanks i like to go all out on pct. I usually feel like s*it after a good cycle so the quicker I reboot the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    That is a strong pct.
    definately not playing around is he
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    definately not playing around is he
    No he is not and that is the way everyone should strive for in a pct.
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    In general, low dose your androgens, otc PCT; RLA/Tocotrienols, NAC/RLA, L-Carnitine, Quercetin, Resveratrol, Creatine, whey and Glutamine, TRS from PP. You can minimize shut-down and avoid crash with these. JMO
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    I would still always have a SERM in hand because no one can for sure predict how someone will respond.
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    I think that the proper combination of those products is a serm and non-toxic to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    I would still always have a SERM in hand because no one can for sure predict how someone will respond.
    Given how easy it is to get a SERM, how relatively cheap they are, and how they are tried and proven I would always run a SERM. Why wouldn't you?
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    clomid FTW but thats just me. ive only used clomid and nolva but not after a ph cycle just for trying to restart my hpta and i got better results from clomid then nolva. and i used it for 4 weeks and never got any of the sides people often report like tracers or feeling like crying etc.... plus its so much cheaper then buying an ai, a test booster, a cort control and all the other things to make a sufficient otc pct.
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    heres a little known secret...the key to pct is LHJO! And knowbull...low dose your neovar? thats retarded! run a crappy low dosed cycle becuase your afraid of getting shutdown???????? Off to BHG's basement with you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    what OTC PCT product do you think is the overall best to include in PCT to get your body back on track?? just looking for opinions here thanks
    IMO and IME

    CEL PCT assist
    sns inhibit e
    sns reduce xt
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    IMO and IME

    CEL PCT assist
    sns inhibit e
    sns reduce xt
    nice shameless plug....
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    Cause their toxic and have potential legal implications. The supps I mentioned are also good for you in other ways besides hormonal regulation. Its a Win, Win, all the way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    nice shameless plug....
    Im speaking from my experience of an OTC PTC.

    If were talking about research chems and such, clomi all the way
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    ive never tried the pp trs stack but im a little skeptical about hte toco 8 having that much of an impact on ur nuts being more sensitive to lh. i can see sustain alpha being a good product but the toco i dont think its necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Given how easy it is to get a SERM, how relatively cheap they are, and how they are tried and proven I would always run a SERM. Why wouldn't you?
    There are only a very few I would not but would always have it on hand. A vast majority of cycles need SERMS no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    There are only a very few I would not but would always have it on hand. A vast majority of cycles need SERMS no question.
    I agree w/ this. OTC is ok, but why risk anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    ive never tried the pp trs stack but im a little skeptical about hte toco 8 having that much of an impact on ur nuts being more sensitive to lh. i can see sustain alpha being a good product but the toco i dont think its necessary.
    I've tried the pp trs stack and my honest evaluation was that sustain alpha is one of the most amazing products I've used, I was surprised honestly and will probably use it for all future pcts (can't wait to try liquivade). The endoamp and toco-8.... eh - I doubt I'll purchase those again. Not really impressed IMHO.
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    What was so great about the sustain chemist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdelquie View Post
    What was so great about the sustain chemist?
    Libido way up, energy way up, feeling of alpha-maleness, retained gains, good pumps in the gym. I know its hard to separate out the effect of the SA specifically but I've run PCT without and with and noticed a difference. Placebo effect? maybe but it works for me so I'm sticking with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Libido way up, energy way up, feeling of alpha-maleness, retained gains, good pumps in the gym. I know its hard to separate out the effect of the SA specifically but I've run PCT without and with and noticed a difference. Placebo effect? maybe but it works for me so I'm sticking with it.
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    If you can add a product with testofen in your pct that will also kick up the libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    If you can add a product with testofen in your pct that will also kick up the libido.
    Good tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Good tip.
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