well think about it, if stimx really was harmful they would be announcing how they were saving possibly 1000's of lives by taking a harmful supplement off the market. cnn would be all over it and politicians would be lining up to take credit. were is cnn?
Rightfully so. The effects have the same euphoria effect and cns effect of an amphetamine.
Yes I do understand what you are saying. I was just letting him know that as of now, there is no FDA report on it. I'm sure they will be looking into it though.
these are very good points, but i don't understand how the fda could sit on information about a potentially dangerous supplement even for an hour. one more question, how could the government seize all those supplements from the biggest online retailer without any news organizations reporting it? WHERE IS CNN.
it is alleged to be close to modafinil and pipradrol, not the same but similar. it is the same logic they are going to apply to hdrol-similar but not the same as turinadol.
You completely ignored my point about relativity. On a global or even national scale, this is very, very minor news. How many people really care about an online supplement retailer being raided by the FDA? It's important to us, but we can't live in a fishbowl and apply it to the ocean.
The FDA has been in war with the supp world for years. You have to understand if they are able to regulate this industry their stock is going to do up sort to speak. They finally are having luck to get warrents to raid places like BB.com's warehouse.
Seriously.. how are you going to have a problem with this. The compound in question is a cardiac-toxic designer amphetamine. The stuff is dangerous, and the FDA can pull it on suspicion, do their homework, then release reports. You will see it on their website soon I am sure... but its not like we are talking about muscletech here who is in every grocery store on the globe, we are talking about a niche supplement company, as Rodj was saying.
like everything the government does in it's 'war' against drugs, publicity is it's main goal. but what if the news organizations pulled the rug and busted the fda out for not putting the news out that this stuff could be harmful? this could possibly bite the government in the asss. so what if slimx is not mainstream, if just 10 people are at risk versus 10,000 the liability remains the same. writing to the fda to bitch is worthless, but maybe writing to news organizations might kick the dumbasses were it hurts-bad publicity.
no but maybe a ambitious reporter could. 10 or 10,000 if lives are at risk...
Arlen Specter, a PA Senator, has been on this crusade for years. I think he's a tad more important than any reporter.
You have to shore up facts before going public.
the fda already did it. the moafinil/pipradrol came from them.
Indeed.
a few presidents i can think of thought they were important too. spector is an asss, i bet plenty of people would jump on bandstand against him if given the chance. draw some blood and watch the sharks.
So many things have been written about this but I have not seen anybody stating that slimx is proven to be harmful. Instead people complain about the lack of any data, which is a door-opnener for many speculations, e.g. that it might have similar adverse effects as some well known designer stims.
Right. The affidavit states that the FDA purchased SX from BB com, but that's all it says about it. What they tested it for or even if it was tested remains to be seen.
Actually you are wrong. The FDA didn't say anything about it yet. The compound you are referencing came mostly from bluelight, with the GC posted.
That's what I've been trying to say. By no means am I trying to sugarcoat the issue at hand just that the FDA is not involved on this one.
I think they are involved now at least.. just haven't seen any reports yet.
I'm sure they are! Thought bought some, so chances are they're not going to just throw it away, haha.
Do you know the name of the compound they're pulling it for?
2-(diphenylmethyl) pyrrolidine
should have known better than to doubt you adams. glad you brought this up, i thought it was coming from fda. thanks for getting it straight. i am going to just watch and learn, it seems like we are all just guessing at this point. i apologize for misquoting a source. please continue to keep us up to date adams and jim.
It's no problem T... There are quite a few people quoting it as the FDA, because of the raids going on with the other stuff.
lol, I just got a new bottle in today.
No, this is NOT according to the FDA, solely. This is according to SEVERAL chemist from bodybuilding.com, and a few others from other sites that actually found out or speculated that this product was, potentially, harmful....Patrick Arnold, beej, and a few more...
true but dont forget they are competitors and as I said before, how harmful??
dont get me wrong , I dont aprove mislabeling supplements, the only thing I think is that so much mass histeria about this stuff without even knowing what it is should be refrained, lets see first what the stuff really is then comment.
Oh golden thing is... i know what I am doing when I have few beers. The GC has been discussed time and time again by chemists and all came to the same conclusion. Do we need AX to officially release a statement to call a spade a spade? I think I trust other chemists rather than the companies PR department.
Indeed. And who's to say that they don't "re-package" it without the spiked ingredient and say that it's tested out and everyone was wrong. Maybe a, Slim Xtreme-NG ploy. The crow and the egg already landed in their face, in my opinion.
