N O type products...Reviews/personal experience
- 05-27-2009, 02:15 PM
- 05-27-2009, 02:29 PM
first off all the veins are all based on genitics and bf%.. focus on form and squeeze and volume in ur workout and u will get that... NO products are only good for the caffiene or imo
- 05-27-2009, 03:29 PM
Jack3d and NO shotgun are about even IMO. I like Shotgun more because of the sides I get with Jack3d. Both have little caffeine and I don't get jittery with either. Both have little amounts of fillers. Other preworkouts I've tried aren't worth noting.
05-27-2009, 03:40 PM
i'm onright now from axis lab it is the bomb I've used shotgun, superpump, others and i've got to say right now it's the best. it's not a pre wo stim so don't expect that but for a pump it's the best otc i've tried.
05-27-2009, 05:40 PM
Best, most consistent energy for me has been from White Flood.
Superpump 250 tastes the best (tastes awesome actually) but doesnt seem to last as long.
Jack3d did nothing for me, which was a bummer based on huge reviews.
Id still like to try Shotgun and .
05-27-2009, 07:06 PM
there are two thing at play here: visible results, and actual performance benefits. anything with arginine will give a wicked pump. nitrocharge is pure arginine at 6gr a day, works great. imo arginine pumps are purely asthetic, with zero performance benefit.
for performance and pumps you need a citrulline/creatine based produc t or any combination of several other ingredients, like cordyceps, cnidium, icariin, ala etc. nos ether level 1 gives wicked pumps, with its combination of citrulline, creatine, cnidium. cre02 gives awesome pumps with cordyceps, creatine, ala, etc. both give awesome strength and endurence in the gym, along with good asthetic pumps. cre02 is as good as it gets for pure ragged edge performance gains. neither has stims.
rpm is the best pre-workout strength and energy supplement aroung, imo. if you are willing to take some caffeine, a cre02/rpm stack will make you pumped and hard, very vascular, with massive performance gains.
ragnarok is a good solid all in one if you are on a budget, it comes in a stim free version, tastes dreamy, and has lots of creatine and beta alanine.
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