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    Mass FX/HD2?


    I was thinking of trying these two, has anyone seen good results from these products? or r there any better supps in the same category?
    my mind is open to whatever i just wanna keep it farily natural though no phs(not old enough yet)
    thanks for any help

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    I was thinking of trying these two, has anyone seen good results from these products? or r there any better supps in the same category?
    my mind is open to whatever i just wanna keep it farily natural though no phs(not old enough yet)
    thanks for any help
    Welcome to AM.

    What is your age again?

    How long have you been training?

    Those are solid products from a solid company. IMO.

    As with any supplement. Diet, training and rest supercede all.
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    im currently 18(havnt had a chance to fill all that stuff in yet)
    And ive been working out since 14 or 15 i started because i played hockey, and i do try to keep a good diet lots of protein and carbs, these products seemed interesting to me b/c i am a pretty hard gainer and have been stuck in the 190 195 range for a while now
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    i'm 3 weeks into this stack, i weigh a lot less than you so i don't take 4 doses a dayi only take 3 but i've seen some pretty fair results so far, started the stack at about 135-137 range and i'm at about 140-142 now, haven't seen huge increases in my bench but my squats went up and my arms seem bigger and overall my body seems harder if that makes sense, like i said i'm not taking it the way you would so 3 weeks into it for me is like half way when i should start seeing more results in the coming week or so
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    alright thanks those seem to be good results!
    Im just trying to make sure its worth the price tag...did you have any sides at all?
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    i've read in reviews that ppl get aggressive but i'm a pretty calm person and haven't experienced any kinds of rage from it, a week and a half in i did get a few pimples on my face but not a really bad breakout, from review i've read ppl do get some side affects but nothing serious and they only last a short time, the money is pretty steep for the products, i just figured if i could take them and get decent results so i wouldn't go buy a prohormone and then have to go find the "correct" pct for them that this stack would still be cheaper, i also take trisobogen (spelling?) with the stack it's also made by anabolic xtreme, it's supposed to increase the half life of the pills which means your body absorb more of the ingredients and make them stay in your system longer, it's also said to help with your complexion so the side affects rn't as bad
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    yeah i figured...the typical(easy to manage) test booster sides..
    trisorbagen does sound like a good product, although ive never heard of it benefiting complexion
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    i've only read the information about complexion once, and i don't even remember where i've read it before it could have been an advertisement somewhere about the product, but now i seem to think if ur taking supps for sports u might want to try usplabs jacked, usplabs prime, and a creatine, this stack didn't change my body to much but my strength shoot up real quick and the combo of jacked and prime made me have focus like i've never felt, it just didn't do much to make my body look or feel any bigger just made my lifts better, for an athlete you might want the strength instead of the body changing properties
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    alright ill have to check that out
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    At 18 i wouldn't take MassFX i'm 24 and saw solid gains from it. But at 18 your test is pretty high already. I'd just take some creatine monohydrate, multi vitamin, preworkout supp, fish oil, and protein. But if you want to take MassFX and HD2 its a great stack to take.
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    Mass FX and Hyperdrol X2 had me yanking 260lb lat pulldowns like it was as simply as with no weight.

    I will say at 18 though you dont need those.

    Creatine, multivitamins, fish oil. Maybe try out a few good pre workout supps. Expiriment with your diet a bit. Try out new routines.

    But if you do want to use them, they are amazing supplements.
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    Mass FX is a great product for you. First of all, it isn't a prohormone. It's perfectly safe. It's primary ingredient is Divanil, which increases free levels of testosterone, not total testosterone. This shouldn't impact your endocrine system in any way other than through aromatization of increased free testosterone levels. Which is why Hyperdrol x2 is needed. It's an AI, and will inhibit the aromatization of testosterone. The AI will protect your free testosterone levels, and cause them to further increase as long as you are taking the Divanil and Hyperdrol x2. Also, using an AI will result in lower estrogen levels.
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    Waiting for a rep to come in and comment on the age recommendation.

    IMO, a tad too young. Couple more years.
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    ok so basically it would not benefit me as much cause my test levels are already high, ok well ill think about it ive really been wanting to try this...but ill check out some creatines(hah theres a lot to choose from)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    ok so basically it would not benefit me as much cause my test levels are already high, ok well ill think about it ive really been wanting to try this...but ill check out some creatines(hah theres a lot to choose from)
    Do some research on Nettle, and Divanil (the 95% pure version of nettle). Also, research testosterone, free testosterone, and bound testosterone.
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    massFX works wonders
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    Waiting for a rep to come in? Why, y'all seem to have handled things pretty well for us!! Just a few things to clear up, if I may...

    -At 18, you're clear to use these. Yes, your hormone levels are still high and raging, but these products won't have any adverse affects on that. MassFX is definitely something to try. Even with high test levels, that's high 'overall' levels. MFX works to make free testosterone, as suggested above, which is a lot different and will DEFINITELY help with your goals to gain. Hyperdrol inhibits test's conversion to estrogen, raising overall test and limiting estrogen in the body. Now at 18, you may not need it, as your estro levels may be low enough already to do well. There seems to be an ongoing debate about using such products at 18, but it's often mistaken for an age issueof "should" rather than "need to". Should you? I dunno - you want to? Do you need to? I dunno - have your doctor draw some blood, check your hormone levels, then get back to me for a solid recommendation. Bigger question is, would it hurt? Nope. You'd be just fine.

    Does someone need supplements of this nature at 18? I didn't take any, but then again, at 18, I was just a chubby tall kid in highschool whose main "lifting experience" was carting arond mass quantities of supplies for the marching band. I started this world in college - past 18 and into my early 20s. Still, looking back and knowing what I know now, I'd have been fine to do MFX/HX2 at 18, and I would have. But that's just me...
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    alright thats really helpful, i have a doctors appointment coming up in the next month so i might actually have him do that.
    and yeah ill look at nettle i actually dont know what that is
    thanks for the help guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    alright thats really helpful, i have a doctors appointment coming up in the next month so i might actually have him do that.
    and yeah ill look at nettle i actually dont know what that is
    thanks for the help guys
    Another important term to research when it comes to nettle is SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin). SHBG binds to your 'free testosterone', causing it to become 'bound testosterone'. When a doctor does blood work, they generally look at your free testosterone levels. Most men have a lot of testosterone, but most is bound (to the SHBG) and won't do much for your workouts or recovery. The Divanil (nettle) binds to the SHBG, preventing your free testosterone from binding to it. This results in higher levels of free testosterone.
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    good stack ... AX rocks
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    Yeah all the reviews that i have seen have been good.

    I actually have an 8 weeks stack waiting to be ran........Too many supps, too little time.

    Thank goodness expo's are way off.

    At 18 years of age, I couldnt recall of what you guys were recommending.

    I knew MFX was probably alright, but not sure with the HX2.

    Thanks T-AD.
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    Ive run HDx2 standalone a few times with dynamite results and no sides. Might be something to consider if you dont want the whole shebang.
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    I like this thread. Just wanted to put that out there. No rep spreadin boys, but even better - you have my respect today.

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    Just another thing on a website actually i think it was nutra planet it involved retain in the stack, is that just to keep ur gains i didnt reakky understand the purpose since its not like a ph
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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    Just another thing on a website actually i think it was nutra planet it involved retain in the stack, is that just to keep ur gains i didnt reakky understand the purpose since its not like a ph
    Retain is/was a cortisol control supplement and was a good option to use with these. LeanFX replaced Retain last year as an update and improvement to the base formula. Adding it in to a stack like this would help you to keep the gains, though you should keep them anyway. Blocking cortisol will aid you to look and be leaner. Anytime the body is under stress, cortisol is released and can act to be catabolic and store fat for fuel for later use. While lifting hard, your body is under stress. While modifying hormone levels, still under stress. Retain2, now LeanFX, can be used with this stack, as part of a PCT for a PH cycle, or on its own to help battle cortisol - very handy especially for those looking to be leaner or just flat-out cut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    Just another thing on a website actually i think it was nutra planet it involved retain in the stack, is that just to keep ur gains i didnt reakky understand the purpose since its not like a ph
    As tim said, its a great addition to pretty much any stack and awesome for use with PCT of any prohormone. High cortisol levels will cause you to waste muscle during PCT, and Lean FX will fight tht problem off.

    Lean FX also is great in a cutting or muscle building stack to provide a perfect anabolic environment and keep bodyfat low
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    ok that sounds like a good product although im a pretty lean guy so ill probably stick with the mass fax an hyperdrol, i might try that after if i do want to lean up tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    ok that sounds like a good product although im a pretty lean guy so ill probably stick with the mass fax an hyperdrol, i might try that after if i do want to lean up tho
    As a 'pretty lean guy' I'd choose a creatine product before a cortisol control product. Check out NO Shotgun. Three things in one: amino acids, creatine, and energy booster... perfect for preworkout. Not to mention it tastes great, I enjoy the exotic fruit flavor.
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    i'm currently running this stack. 2 weeks in to it today and i've already seen some good improvements. little strength gains, libido remained the same, great pumps, and no negative side effects. i would say it's an overall great product for someone looking for a little somethin somethin without having to take a ph
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    yeah i actually take no shotgun right now, it is probably the best preworkout supplement ive tried amazing pumps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mason1014 View Post
    yeah i actually take no shotgun right now, it is probably the best preworkout supplement ive tried amazing pumps!
    You'll get a different kind of pump with mass fx and hyperdrol X2. I've been experimenting with not using creatine and i just enjoy a ton of carbs and fats. So far I don't think I'll be going back to creatine. My workout partner has already made the transition to creatine free products. MFX and HX2 get me plenty pumped, the only thing I miss from the shotgun is the amino acid blend. I'm going to be picking up some Acetyl L-Carnitine and Alpha Lipoic Acid soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    You'll get a different kind of pump with mass fx and hyperdrol X2. I've been experimenting with not using creatine and i just enjoy a ton of carbs and fats. So far I don't think I'll be going back to creatine. My workout partner has already made the transition to creatine free products. MFX and HX2 get me plenty pumped, the only thing I miss from the shotgun is the amino acid blend. I'm going to be picking up some Acetyl L-Carnitine and Alpha Lipoic Acid soon.
    yea i would say mass fx and hx2 give you a little more mild of a pump than some pre w.o supps like no shotgun, jack3d, etc but it's still very noticeable. i even prefer it... though i try to not always focus on the pump aspect of products b/c no matter how great they feel, they haven't been proven to increase muscle mass, strength, etc... just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by immaboss9 View Post
    yea i would say mass fx and hx2 give you a little more mild of a pump than some pre w.o supps like no shotgun, jack3d, etc but it's still very noticeable. i even prefer it... though i try to not always focus on the pump aspect of products b/c no matter how great they feel, they haven't been proven to increase muscle mass, strength, etc... just my .02

    I only workout 'cause it makes me feel good, so I only use supps that make me feel good. Mass FX is my number one supplement when it comes to feeling good. I like to take 3 MFX an hour b4 my workout.

    I'll be experimenting with 1-carboxy soon.
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    I just ordered my mass fx and hyperdrol today, im really looking forward to this, maybe ill post some results!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    I only workout 'cause it makes me feel good, so I only use supps that make me feel good. Mass FX is my number one supplement when it comes to feeling good. I like to take 3 MFX an hour b4 my workout.

    I'll be experimenting with 1-carboxy soon.
    word. and i've done a little research after reading this post but can't find a straight answer for what 1-carboxy does? can u give me a little info.

    please and thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by immaboss9 View Post
    word. and i've done a little research after reading this post but can't find a straight answer for what 1-carboxy does? can u give me a little info.

    please and thanks.
    It helps increase dopamine levels.
    Here's an interesting link from the past...
    powerfull vs Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    It helps increase dopamine levels.
    Here's an interesting link from the past...
    powerfull vs Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzo
    so does meth lol anyways thanks for the link
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    Quote Originally Posted by immaboss9 View Post
    so does meth lol anyways thanks for the link
    Meth is a great cutting agent!
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