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    best supplement to turn fat into muscle


    i'd like to try and find a supplement that would have me turn my fat into muscle .... its mainly in the stomach area. do you know any supplements like this?

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    I would like a formula that changes lead into gold..know any? You cannot change muscle into fat or vice versa. You can however lose the fat and build the muscle. The product that does this is called eating healthier and working out. Its new, its crazy and it just might work.....You owe me $80 now please.
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    You would have to remove 3 * 6.022x10^23 protons from your block of lead to create 197 grams of gold. Now considering my answer is more beneficial to you and not acting like a dbag you owe me $160
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    Me too!

    So far diet and exercise seem to be the major potentiaters of fat loss, and resistance training is deemed quite effective in building muscle.

    There are products that can help you lose those last few pounds if your diet and training in on, but nothing will turn fat into muscle.

    Look into cortisol blockers and fatburners if you want to see whats out there for weight loss.
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    fat cannot turn into muscle. they are completely separate layers of each other. fat overlays muscle, hiding it in a sense. thats why lean people look so musclar. they dont have fat overlapping there muscles. i hope this makes sense.
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    the only reason im asking is because i go to the gym a lot i play on an intramural basketball squad and it doesnt seem to be doing anything. Im not saying oh give me a supplement that will give me muscle while i sit around i just was wondering if there is anything that willl get rid of fat while gaining muscle
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    yeah ry that does make sense thank you. so now can anyone suggest a good fat burner then?
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    I'm logging a Slim Etreme, Lean FX, and Reversitol stack. So far, so good. You can check it out if you want in the log section. "Not your grandma's recomp"
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    i'd like to try and find a supplement that would have me turn my fat into muscle .... its mainly in the stomach area. do you know any supplements like this?
    YOU CANNOT TURN FAT INTO MUSCLE!!! Fat and muscle are two completely DIFFERENT components of your body. You can however, LOSE fat and GAIN muscle (and vice versa).

    If you are looking to lose the fat from your midsection, I suggest that you target your DIET for fat loss, since diet is the MOST important component of fat loss. Otherwise, you cannot spot reduce fat from your body (it's like trying to empty a pool of water from one side first, and this cannot be done); when you lose fat it goes from all over (as the water when you empty a pool goes from everywhere).

    And unless you're already relatively lean (<10% BF for a male) you DON'T need a fat burner!
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    anyone wanna suggest good diet tips or suggestions then? haha sorry im really new to all this stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    I would like a formula that changes lead into gold..know any? You cannot change muscle into fat or vice versa. You can however lose the fat and build the muscle. The product that does this is called eating healthier and working out. Its new, its crazy and it just might work.....You owe me $80 now please.
    wow that sounded like a BB.com response...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    You would have to remove 3 * 6.022x10^23 protons from your block of lead to create 197 grams of gold. Now considering my answer is more beneficial to you and not acting like a dbag you owe me $160
    You seem to want me to think your pretty smart, when you create such a mind numbingly dumb ass thread. If you WERE intelligent you would have phrased your question differently.
    BTW lead is stable, forcing it to release three protons requires a vast input of energy, such that the cost of transmuting it greatly surpasses the value of the resulting gold.Which means your formula costs me money, while the product I gave you, has benefits which can last a lifetime and is priceless.
    Eat healthy and exercise and the fat will disappear! I can go into detail when you have done some research on your own if you would like more information. There is no "Magic" pill you can take to do what you asked, sorry. There are supplements that can help you "burn" fat by increasing your metabolism but that wasn't the question you asked though was it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    wow that sounded like a BB.com response...
    It sounded like a BB.com kinda question...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    It sounded like a BB.com kinda question...

    sounded like a normal newbie question to me. to OP, congrats on trying to get into shape their is much to learn and you wont be flamed like that by everyone. like the others said, dont go looking for a miracle pill. just learning to eat/work out right will give you the results you are looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    I would like a formula that changes lead into gold..know any? You cannot change muscle into fat or vice versa. You can however lose the fat and build the muscle. The product that does this is called eating healthier and working out. Its new, its crazy and it just might work.....You owe me $80 now please.
    HAHAHAHAHA!
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    Tips on Diet for Fat Loss


    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    anyone wanna suggest good diet tips or suggestions then? haha sorry im really new to all this stuff
    Even if you're new it's still not that hard to do some research of your own!

    Anyways...

    ROSIE'S DIET TIPS FOR FAT LOSS

    1. First, you need to work out what your MAINTENANCE calories are (There are various methods and equations that you can use to calculate this; most take into account current body mass, height, and activity level). Then, to lose fat, you need to make sure that you’re having up to 500 calories LESS than maintenance. Depending on how fast or slow you lose the fat, you can adjust and tweak your calorie intake each week.
    2. Eat every 2-3 hours after waking. This helps keep the metabolism going throughout the day, as well as keeping insulin levels stable (so, you can see that 3 meals is simply NOT enough, even small portions).
    3. EVERY meal should have complex carbohydrates [CHO] (i.e. kumara, rice, oats, etc.), QUALITY LEAN protein (chicken breast, fish, tuna, salmon, lean beef, egg whites, etc.), and FIBROUS CHO (i.e. vegetables, green ones in particular).
    4. Drink 4.5 litres of water per day. This will help keep the system clean.
    5. It has been proven that TWO servings of DAIRY per day helps lose MORE fat than if one avoids it altogether.
    6. Do NOT avoid fat (The only fat she should be avoiding is Saturated fat and Trans fats). You NEED fat in your diet, as fat plays major roles in energy metabolism and other parts of your body (Wardlaw & Hampl, 2007). Make sure to have at least 30 grams of GOOD fats (i.e. flaxseeds or flaxseed oil, fish oils, peanut butter, nuts - especially almonds and walnuts, hempseed oil, olive oil, etc.) per day (i.e. this is ~2 tbsp of flaxseed oil or peanut butter).
    7. Don’t drink tea or coffee. Try drinking GREEN tea instead; it helps with thermogenesis, and is especially good if you take it one hour before doing cardio first thing in the morning.
    8. Don’t drink alcohol. Alcohol has NO nutritional value and is full of calories.
    9. Minimize adding salt to food. Instead, flavour a meal with herbs and spices (i.e. ginger, cumin, cayenne pepper, curry powder, chilli powder, and garlic all help thermogenesis a bit).
    10. The only sugar needed on a regular basis is the NATURAL sugars found in food; these are mostly found in fruit. Too much sugar plays havoc with insulin levels and these should be as stable as possible throughout the day. The best time to be having sugar is straight AFTER a RESISTANCE workout, when the body is trying to replenish muscle glycogen stores (Burke, 2006).
    11. Do NOT avoid CHO. You NEED at least 50-100 grams of CHO per day for your body to burn fat effectively. A good guideline is to have at least 1 gram of CHO per kg of body mass per day as a MINIMUM (Burke, 2006).
    12. Eat most food as 'natural' as possible. This means fresh fruit and vegetables, meat, grains, etc. Try not to eat too much packaged food, as it is full of extra calories and sugar.
    13. Most importantly, remember that it IS OK TO CHEAT every now and then. Actually the body NEEDS cheat meals and day. By throwing all the guidelines I have just mentioned above out of the way and having a day where you eat what you want it helps, and will also help prevent your body from going into starvation mode (where the body battles you to hold onto the fat as much as it can). If you prefer NOT to ‘cheat’, then adding in 1-2 higher CALORIE days (i.e. go up to Maintenance, or even Bulking, or even slightly higher), with the extra calories coming from quality COMPLEX CHO, you should be ok.

    Supplements should NOT be a big deal, as most fat loss can be done through simply eating the right food at the right time. And unless everything that you’re doing is already done to ensure the maximum results in the timeframe that you want to achieve it in, and then supplementation should not be the focus. However, there ARE a few supplements that I think are important to any regime:

    1. A multivitamin. (Although you should be eating as much of a variety of food as possible, in order to meet the RDI/AI of most nutrients from actual food).
    2. Creatine monohydrate. Creatine helps the body to recover faster, as well as aiding in increasing strength levels and lean body mass [LBM].
    3. Flaxseed/Hempseed/Fish Oil. This is the GOOD fats. Flaxseed or Hempseed oil is great with breakfast or in protein shakes.
    4. Protein Powder. This just helps for the in-between meals, or after the gym, and to make sure that you get enough protein in (You should be having 1-1.5 grams of protein per kg of body mass per day; this is so that muscle loss is prevented, and can even assist in small gains in LBM).

    Apart from these 4 ‘base’ supplements, you don’t need a lot (supplements are just a way for companies to make money. You can do everything without them!). And forget about using fat-burners or thermogenics; they are a waste of time unless you are ALREADY lean and are looking for that ‘extra edge’ to lose the last 1-2% bodyfat (i.e. like a fitness competitor, etc.)


    If you're looking for more of a recomp (i.e. lose BF whilst gaining muscle), then you had BETTER get your diet sorted, since diet manipulation is the key to recomp success. A recommended way of eating would be calorie cycling: 3-4 days low below Maintenance calories, and then 1-2 days above Maintenance calories (although you can make variations of this).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    sounded like a normal newbie question to me. to OP, congrats on trying to get into shape their is much to learn and you wont be flamed like that by everyone. like the others said, dont go looking for a miracle pill. just learning to eat/work out right will give you the results you are looking for.
    I have no sympathy for the ignorant or lazy. The stupid yes, the ignorant or lazy, no. I am more than willing to help out any and all people on this or any other forum, when and where I may. One would only have to have looked around the forums,google searched or have gone to the library for insight.A description of height/weight/exercise level/age/current diet would have been helpful as well, for anyone to try and formulate an opinion on how he should go about changing his diet or exercise plan. Asking for a "Magic" pill is absurd and the question he asked is something I have dealt with on numerous occasions with other people. Its irks me when people do not research. I commend the honesty on his last post and would have thrown my two cents in but I lack the information I require from him and Rosie pretty much summed up all there is to say. I'm not trying to be mean, I just have a tendacy to give tough love.
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    everyone was ignorant at one point, i can handle ignorance because he is clearly asking questions about something he knows nothing about. you hear people asking about a 'magic pill' all the time because most of america thinks theirs a pill for everything. assuming everyone knows exactly the best info and stats to put into their first post is useless, and i would assume everyone would be used to it by now. i have also heard alot of people asking "how to turn fat into muscle" quite frequently again it goes to show americas general outlook on fitness is ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    everyone was ignorant at one point, i can handle ignorance because he is clearly asking questions about something he knows nothing about. you hear people asking about a 'magic pill' all the time because most of america thinks theirs a pill for everything. assuming everyone knows exactly the best info and stats to put into their first post is useless, and i would assume everyone would be used to it by now. i have also heard alot of people asking "how to turn fat into muscle" quite frequently again it goes to show americas general outlook on fitness is ignorant.
    I would group the world along with America in the last statement. The thing is, I don't want to get used to it. I never will. I myself read everything and anything I can, to better myself on any subject I desire.To increase my knowledge about whatever it is. It is frankly laziness that keeps people ignorant. I refuse to coddle people with attitudes like that. Why be that way? Read!Research!Refine!I'll still be helpful,but I'll be facetious while I'm doing it. How would anyone progress if they were not challenged? I agree with your viewpoints as to why though but I personally will not be an enabler of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    I would group the world along with America in the last statement. The thing is, I don't want to get used to it. I never will. I myself read everything and anything I can, to better myself on any subject I desire.To increase my knowledge about whatever it is. It is frankly laziness that keeps people ignorant. I refuse to coddle people with attitudes like that. Why be that way? Read!Research!Refine!I'll still be helpful,but I'll be facetious while I'm doing it. How would anyone progress if they were not challenged? I agree with your viewpoints as to why though but I personally will not be an enabler of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    i'd like to try and find a supplement that would have me turn my fat into muscle .... its mainly in the stomach area. do you know any supplements like this?
    Hopefully you're already lifting weights and doing some HIT cardio.

    I'd recommend stacking Drive with Lipotrophin and NeoVar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastRonin View Post
    I would like a formula that changes lead into gold..know any? You cannot change muscle into fat or vice versa. You can however lose the fat and build the muscle. The product that does this is called eating healthier and working out. Its new, its crazy and it just might work.....You owe me $80 now please.
    Nuff said end thread thank you rep me for my avatar I guess and have a nice day you owe me 80 bucks too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Even if you're new it's still not that hard to do some research of your own!

    Anyways...

    ROSIE'S DIET TIPS FOR FAT LOSS

    1. First, you need to work out what your MAINTENANCE calories are (There are various methods and equations that you can use to calculate this; most take into account current body mass, height, and activity level). Then, to lose fat, you need to make sure that you’re having up to 500 calories LESS than maintenance. Depending on how fast or slow you lose the fat, you can adjust and tweak your calorie intake each week.
    2. Eat every 2-3 hours after waking. This helps keep the metabolism going throughout the day, as well as keeping insulin levels stable (so, you can see that 3 meals is simply NOT enough, even small portions).
    3. EVERY meal should have complex carbohydrates [CHO] (i.e. kumara, rice, oats, etc.), QUALITY LEAN protein (chicken breast, fish, tuna, salmon, lean beef, egg whites, etc.), and FIBROUS CHO (i.e. vegetables, green ones in particular).
    4. Drink 4.5 litres of water per day. This will help keep the system clean.
    5. It has been proven that TWO servings of DAIRY per day helps lose MORE fat than if one avoids it altogether.
    6. Do NOT avoid fat (The only fat she should be avoiding is Saturated fat and Trans fats). You NEED fat in your diet, as fat plays major roles in energy metabolism and other parts of your body (Wardlaw & Hampl, 2007). Make sure to have at least 30 grams of GOOD fats (i.e. flaxseeds or flaxseed oil, fish oils, peanut butter, nuts - especially almonds and walnuts, hempseed oil, olive oil, etc.) per day (i.e. this is ~2 tbsp of flaxseed oil or peanut butter).
    7. Don’t drink tea or coffee. Try drinking GREEN tea instead; it helps with thermogenesis, and is especially good if you take it one hour before doing cardio first thing in the morning.
    8. Don’t drink alcohol. Alcohol has NO nutritional value and is full of calories.
    9. Minimize adding salt to food. Instead, flavour a meal with herbs and spices (i.e. ginger, cumin, cayenne pepper, curry powder, chilli powder, and garlic all help thermogenesis a bit).
    10. The only sugar needed on a regular basis is the NATURAL sugars found in food; these are mostly found in fruit. Too much sugar plays havoc with insulin levels and these should be as stable as possible throughout the day. The best time to be having sugar is straight AFTER a RESISTANCE workout, when the body is trying to replenish muscle glycogen stores (Burke, 2006).
    11. Do NOT avoid CHO. You NEED at least 50-100 grams of CHO per day for your body to burn fat effectively. A good guideline is to have at least 1 gram of CHO per kg of body mass per day as a MINIMUM (Burke, 2006).
    12. Eat most food as 'natural' as possible. This means fresh fruit and vegetables, meat, grains, etc. Try not to eat too much packaged food, as it is full of extra calories and sugar.
    13. Most importantly, remember that it IS OK TO CHEAT every now and then. Actually the body NEEDS cheat meals and day. By throwing all the guidelines I have just mentioned above out of the way and having a day where you eat what you want it helps, and will also help prevent your body from going into starvation mode (where the body battles you to hold onto the fat as much as it can). If you prefer NOT to ‘cheat’, then adding in 1-2 higher CALORIE days (i.e. go up to Maintenance, or even Bulking, or even slightly higher), with the extra calories coming from quality COMPLEX CHO, you should be ok.

    Supplements should NOT be a big deal, as most fat loss can be done through simply eating the right food at the right time. And unless everything that you’re doing is already done to ensure the maximum results in the timeframe that you want to achieve it in, and then supplementation should not be the focus. However, there ARE a few supplements that I think are important to any regime:

    1. A multivitamin. (Although you should be eating as much of a variety of food as possible, in order to meet the RDI/AI of most nutrients from actual food).
    2. Creatine monohydrate. Creatine helps the body to recover faster, as well as aiding in increasing strength levels and lean body mass [LBM].
    3. Flaxseed/Hempseed/Fish Oil. This is the GOOD fats. Flaxseed or Hempseed oil is great with breakfast or in protein shakes.
    4. Protein Powder. This just helps for the in-between meals, or after the gym, and to make sure that you get enough protein in (You should be having 1-1.5 grams of protein per kg of body mass per day; this is so that muscle loss is prevented, and can even assist in small gains in LBM).

    Apart from these 4 ‘base’ supplements, you don’t need a lot (supplements are just a way for companies to make money. You can do everything without them!). And forget about using fat-burners or thermogenics; they are a waste of time unless you are ALREADY lean and are looking for that ‘extra edge’ to lose the last 1-2% bodyfat (i.e. like a fitness competitor, etc.)


    If you're looking for more of a recomp (i.e. lose BF whilst gaining muscle), then you had BETTER get your diet sorted, since diet manipulation is the key to recomp success. A recommended way of eating would be calorie cycling: 3-4 days low below Maintenance calories, and then 1-2 days above Maintenance calories (although you can make variations of this).
    Do NOT avoid CHO. You NEED at least 50-100 grams of CHO per day for your body to burn fat effectively. A good guideline is to have at least 1 gram of CHO per kg of body mass per day as a MINIMUM (Burke, 2006)

    do you include counting vegetables in this or just 'grain' related carbs and simple carbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Do NOT avoid CHO. You NEED at least 50-100 grams of CHO per day for your body to burn fat effectively. A good guideline is to have at least 1 gram of CHO per kg of body mass per day as a MINIMUM (Burke, 2006)

    do you include counting vegetables in this or just 'grain' related carbs and simple carbs?
    The carbohydrates from many vegetables are negligible, but it includes ALL carbohydrates consumed, from whatever sources, food or supplement.

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    Shat!!!my carbs are only my 1/2 cup uncooked in the am for breakfast, with 1tablespoon berries and 150g organic yogurt for morning tea...all other meals are salads and vegetables with lean meats...shat only 40g a day then...rethinking tjme
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    At 5'10 + 165, you can't have all that much fat to lose, and if you do you'd be better served by adding some muscle first, and worrying about fat loss later.
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    I'm training for Running 10km track but at the moment I'm doing v02 max training for fat utilization at higher heart rates. They are about 40mins minimum in length.
    I don't respond well to carbs and wonder what I can eat that will
    Stop me from effin bloating and yeah...thoughts?nutrition is the main part of a sport specific program...need energy and carbs help oxidize fat too!
    Lost lost lost
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    Just add more fruits, bananas, oranges, apples, kiwis
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Shat!!!my carbs are only my 1/2 cup uncooked in the am for breakfast, with 1tablespoon berries and 150g organic yogurt for morning tea...all other meals are salads and vegetables with lean meats...shat only 40g a day then...rethinking tjme
    40 grams of carbohydrates a day for a competitive athletic athlete = NOT smart, IMO! For training alone, you need more than that, especially if you are SERIOUS about your performance!


    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I'm training for Running 10km track but at the moment I'm doing v02 max training for fat utilization at higher heart rates. They are about 40mins minimum in length.
    I don't respond well to carbs and wonder what I can eat that will
    Stop me from effin bloating and yeah...thoughts?nutrition is the main part of a sport specific program...need energy and carbs help oxidize fat too!
    Lost lost lost
    Not all carbohydrates are going to cause bloating - those you are sensitive to and things like wheat can, but not all. You just have to know what you can and cannot eat without such effects, and in what quantities, and maximize your carbohydrate (AND CALORIE) consumption and timing.

    As harsh as it sounds, if your nutrition is not optimal, regardless of what and how much you train, don't expect to do well in serious athletic sporting competition.

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    I know Rosie!!!your a terminator!I like to stay as whole grain as I can.that's my best bet because I do respond well to wheat free wholegrain foods but would rather eat unprocessed whole grains.fruits are all well and good but the fructose isn't the best...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    i'd like to try and find a supplement that would have me turn my fat into muscle .... its mainly in the stomach area. do you know any supplements like this?
    you DONT TURN FAT INTO MUSCLE, it just dosnt work like that.
    this is a myth due to people not understanding diet or there body processes. putting on mass "bulking if you will" is better done with OVER maintenance calories.
    so if you have higher body fat your probibbly eating MORE then you need to/should, so say then you start working out, you gain muscle and loss fat due to muscle (muscle burns more calories) but it has NOTHING to do with "turning fat into muscle"
    I go NUTZ when i here or see people say this comment, just nutz it drives me lol.

    with that baing said i higly rec: need2slin and Rezolution for fatloss and help with muscle gains.
    but you need to look at your diet more not supps.
    good luck man! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    40 grams of carbohydrates a day for a competitive athletic athlete = NOT smart, IMO! For training alone, you need more than that, especially if you are SERIOUS about your performance!




    Not all carbohydrates are going to cause bloating - those you are sensitive to and things like wheat can, but not all. You just have to know what you can and cannot eat without such effects, and in what quantities, and maximize your carbohydrate (AND CALORIE) consumption and timing.

    As harsh as it sounds, if your nutrition is not optimal, regardless of what and how much you train, don't expect to do well in serious athletic sporting competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    At 5'10 + 165, you can't have all that much fat to lose, and if you do you'd be better served by adding some muscle first, and worrying about fat loss later.
    i agree man!
    diet must be off BIGTIME along with trainning.

    at that size i would bulk for a few years (keep **** food to a minimal as i dont mean just get fat, i mean eat right and eat to put on muscle)
    throw in a protine drink like lipotropic or needtowhey or just some iso-whey from TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    the only reason im asking is because i go to the gym a lot i play on an intramural basketball squad and it doesnt seem to be doing anything. Im not saying oh give me a supplement that will give me muscle while i sit around i just was wondering if there is anything that willl get rid of fat while gaining muscle
    look at this and read it all, i do somthing like this but more reps , sets and a bit longer but basicly this: http://dc-training.blogspot.com/
    read ALL the chapters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinrome View Post
    yeah ry that does make sense thank you. so now can anyone suggest a good fat burner then?
    I would rec (when you fix diet and trainning)
    http://www.lgsciences.com/Rezolution...rezolution.htm
    and
    http://www.**********************/sto...-Slin-p50.html

    I love these two products.
    the Rezolution is a bit stimy so if you cant handle some coffee then maybe not for you.

    good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    sounded like a normal newbie question to me. to OP, congrats on trying to get into shape their is much to learn and you wont be flamed like that by everyone. like the others said, dont go looking for a miracle pill. just learning to eat/work out right will give you the results you are looking for.
    yah some peopel just liek to go around flaming people.
    Im happy your askign questions abotu your diet and trainning. feel free to pm me! ;-)
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