Okay guys I got 5 days left on my ECA AP stack and I am going to go with the 11-oxo AP stack to get off the caffiene and eph for 1 WEEK. 1) is one week ENOUGH time to cycle off eca b4 hopping back on. I know 11-oxo is pricy but its for just 1 week bc I have build a huge tolerance to the caffiene already. Its 2 bronkaids and I was gonna puch 300 mg of caffiene but im going to play it safe its not a quick fix. So I have 1 bottle of AP left. I like what I see its helping in the shredding area. Now I need something like a PH like 11-oxo. Plz help my time is running out and anything suggested I may have to order it from a local store. Thanx guys most appreciated.:dl: