Okay I talked to this guy and hes a IFBB pro and hes a big dude but he said that all usplab stuff are so overpriced. And right before I was going ot tell him to order me the Levi and rec he said they both are overpriced and can find better alternatives. Huh so does anyone have any idea of something that can get close to the Levi/Rec stack bc I was gonna do that until he destroyed my hope :18: