p h experts a question for you
- 12-19-2008, 11:45 PM
- 12-20-2008, 12:13 AM
- 12-20-2008, 04:33 PM
12-21-2008, 03:10 AM
why is it the wrong section? they are both supplements. and sold at supplement stores. they "supplement" your natural anabolic hormones. granted, they are both "pro steroids" and have a target steroid to convert to. but they aren't steroids to begin with. therefore they technically dont belong in the steroids section. no pro hormone or pro anything belongs there. only steroids and the new "designer" steroids. but those are legal and also supplements. nothing wrong with discussing them in the supplement section. I've seen the mods move post of supplements about a specific product containing designer steroids (halodrol, pheraplex, superdrol) to the supplement section. probably because it is a legal supplement bought in supplement stores. key word being supplement. end rant.
to answers posters questions, not sure on the enzyme that converts the two pro steroids, but if they are converted with different enzymes (from the liver) then the combo should be great and work, but if they convert via the same enzyme, you may not have enough enzymes to keep up a high conversion and just be wasting some of the ps. you'll have to do more research on it to find out the enzymes they convert into target steroids with.
12-21-2008, 03:41 AM
12-21-2008, 04:18 AM
12-21-2008, 06:38 AM
12-21-2008, 11:57 AM
12-21-2008, 12:51 PM
12-21-2008, 01:02 PM
12-21-2008, 11:17 PM
okay all you "board experts" then why do mod move post about otc designer steroids like "decabolen" or other pro steroid supplements into the supplement section? i mean, surely they know the "rules" you speak of. idk, and i dont care, user can post away, i'll try to answer any question I know the answer too, or help out another person seeking info. what section it is in isn't important to me, and is stupid to get upset about. all of you quoting your wanna be body building fraternaty rules and regulations look like the idiots at body buliding dot com. smh.
12-22-2008, 12:51 AM
12-22-2008, 04:03 AM
B) your thoughts on PH's "supplementing" test down right entertaining!!
C) I think that most of the responsible posters on here like to ensure that people understand that PH/PS's need to be taken seriously...just like a lot of people don't understand why their OTC "supplement" needs more than an OTC PCT, or a PCT at all. keeping hormonal discussions out of the "supplement" forum aids in drawing that line and making people understand that PH's convert to steroids! sometimes just making a poster realize what they're asking about is enough education...they didn't realize M-Drol is a steroid!
but then again, would I want to take advice from someone that advocates stacking 4 methyls? and who advertises that he's stacked SD/PP/ and HD? I'm sure that many people on this forum would say that you're offering some shady advice!
you're new here, but you've obviously done some homework; but be carefull how you offer advice...just because you're reckless with your own body and health doesn't mean that you should advise others to do the same!
12-22-2008, 05:05 AM
12-22-2008, 05:06 AM
Maybe those more knowledgeable and experienced with steroids would be more likely to post in the steroid section, and everyone wants a potential 'user' to get the best/most info possible? Plus the logs are found in the anabolic discussion portion, ppl should definately browse these beforehand as well.
Not a big deal to post in 'wrong' section, but I think most posters here have peoples' best interests in mind and this is why they say this...
12-22-2008, 05:15 AM
12-22-2008, 05:24 AM
12-22-2008, 05:27 AM
12-22-2008, 09:13 AM
12-22-2008, 09:18 AM
Honestly, there's no reason to explain anything, its the rules, so try and follow them...end of discussion for that point.
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12-22-2008, 01:41 PM
ah, w/e idc. I haven't broken any rules yet, that i know of. but am sure I will. I havn't stacked 4 methyls yet. maybe some day. 5mg of each. who knows. how many methyls you stack isn't important by the way. it's the amount of mg's your taking in & cycle length that makes liver toxicity an issue. and clinical studies show 17aa steroids can be safely used up to 90mg e.d for 4-6 weeks. and thats the truth despite the bro science and media hype. and stopping the 17aa steroids, using a proper pct plan, and maintiaining a helthy diet and exercise program will allow your body to heal from the damage (ldl ^ hdl v, bp ^, liver enzymes ^, test v, etc.) and return to normal.
more gains you have from an supplement, the more sides you can expect to have.
and supplementing test? are you talking about 4-androstenediol? that is the only pro hormone i've used. and that converts to testosterone. i've also used 1,4ad (bold) didn't like it as much as the 4-ad.
glad im entertaining people. i'll be here all week. until this site turns into another bb.com.
12-22-2008, 03:12 PM
you actually sound like a clown from bb dot com
12-22-2008, 03:16 PM
12-22-2008, 05:47 PM
12-22-2008, 05:50 PM
12-22-2008, 07:05 PM
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