Help please comment on these supplement combinations

[GeeJayEL]

Hey Guys,
Constructive criticism welcome, but no trashing please I'm not an expert at this haha. Thanks

Ok I'll start by saying I KNOW SOME OF THESE ARE BAD FOR MY LIVER.
I have been lifting for quite a while, all through my years of wrestling, but now I don't wrestle anymore so there is no need to keep my weight down. This has led me to want to gain weight and introduce supplements.

After a bit of research and use of some general nutrition knowledge, This is what I've come up with:

Supplements I take BOTH "ON" AND "OFF":
Whole Food Multi-Vitamin
Zinc
Copper
Akne-Zyme
Fish Oils and/or Flax Oil
Aloe Vera
Resveratrol
Quercetin
DIM
Vitamin E
Sometimes 5-HTP for Sleep
BCAA
Ginkgo

"ON" Cycle Supplements (about 3.5 weeks):
CTD Decabolen and/or Tri-Bolic
Thermolife Liver Longer
Anabolic Innovations Life Support
11-OXO

"OFF" Cycle Supplements (about 4.5 weeks):
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
3,6,17-Androstenetrione [essentially 6-oxo]
Beta-Ecdysterone
ZMA
IGF-1 Lozenges


What do you think of these combinations? Questions, Comments, Recommendations, Ideas, anything...etc?
PLEASE!
Thanks

 

[andrew732]

Hey Guys,
Constructive criticism welcome, but no trashing please I'm not an expert at this haha. Thanks

Ok I'll start by saying I KNOW SOME OF THESE ARE BAD FOR MY LIVER.
I have been lifting for quite a while, all through my years of wrestling, but now I don't wrestle anymore so there is no need to keep my weight down. This has led me to want to gain weight and introduce supplements.

After a bit of research and use of some general nutrition knowledge, This is what I've come up with:

Supplements I take BOTH "ON" AND "OFF":
Whole Food Multi-Vitamin
Zinc
Copper
Akne-Zyme
Fish Oils and/or Flax Oil
Aloe Vera
Resveratrol
Quercetin
DIM
Vitamin E
Sometimes 5-HTP for Sleep
BCAA
Ginkgo

"ON" Cycle Supplements (about 3.5 weeks):
CTD Decabolen and/or Tri-Bolic
Thermolife Liver Longer
Anabolic Innovations Life Support
11-OXO

"OFF" Cycle Supplements (about 4.5 weeks):
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
3,6,17-Androstenetrione [essentially 6-oxo]
Beta-Ecdysterone
ZMA
IGF-1 Lozenges


What do you think of these combinations? Questions, Comments, Recommendations, Ideas, anything...etc?
PLEASE!
Thanks

During cycle you should incorporate Cycle support instead of lifesupport because dosages of Cycle support are higher. Now for PCT, do not go with novla because Decabolen is very harsh on the liver, it contains more than one methylated compund. Novla is known to be rough on the liver as well as bones and blood lipids. Go with tore. at 120 mg for the first 5 days, then days 6-14 90mg, 60mg days 15-22, 30mg days 23-30. Also incorporate Stoked after 2 weeks(week3 of pct) into your PCT because it contains two potent libido boosters which are icarrin and tran-reservatrol. Icarrin is also known as the natural Viagra. 4-6 caps a day with 2divided doses is the way to go.

 

[SCBBing]

Hey Guys,
Constructive criticism welcome, but no trashing please I'm not an expert at this haha. Thanks

Ok I'll start by saying I KNOW SOME OF THESE ARE BAD FOR MY LIVER.
I have been lifting for quite a while, all through my years of wrestling, but now I don't wrestle anymore so there is no need to keep my weight down. This has led me to want to gain weight and introduce supplements.

After a bit of research and use of some general nutrition knowledge, This is what I've come up with:

Supplements I take BOTH "ON" AND "OFF":
Whole Food Multi-Vitamin
Zinc
Copper
Akne-Zyme
Fish Oils and/or Flax Oil
Aloe Vera
Resveratrol
Quercetin
DIM
Vitamin E
Sometimes 5-HTP for Sleep
BCAA
Ginkgo

"ON" Cycle Supplements (about 3.5 weeks):
CTD Decabolen and/or Tri-Bolic
Thermolife Liver Longer
Anabolic Innovations Life Support
11-OXO

"OFF" Cycle Supplements (about 4.5 weeks):
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen)
3,6,17-Androstenetrione [essentially 6-oxo]
Beta-Ecdysterone
ZMA
IGF-1 Lozenges


What do you think of these combinations? Questions, Comments, Recommendations, Ideas, anything...etc?
PLEASE!
Thanks

im thinking about taking TRI-BOLIC myself, very curious about the gains one may get, i have to see how this forum gos.

 

[HEARTLESS]

I dont know that you really need the zinc and copper, I would look at switching one or both of those out for some milk thistle and hawthorn berry or celery seed extract.. my 2 cents bro

 

[GeeJayEL]

i've been taking zinc and copper for years now so i just included it. supposedly it is good for your skin and immune system and a good balance between the two is necessary. I like the Life Support just because its a capsule I'm not a big fan of powders but i guess i would just take double the amount of capsules?

Also what is tore? I would definitely be interested in something that does not hurt my liver. That is a major part of cycling off. Thanks so much!

 

[andrew732]

i've been taking zinc and copper for years now so i just included it. supposedly it is good for your skin and immune system and a good balance between the two is necessary. I like the Life Support just because its a capsule I'm not a big fan of powders but i guess i would just take double the amount of capsules?

Also what is tore? I would definitely be interested in something that does not hurt my liver. That is a major part of cycling off. Thanks so much!

Toremifene citrate is SERM that is easier on the body during PCT. It is a modified version of Novla. The dosage I recommend for this cycle is 120/90/60/30, at week3 incorporate a natural natty booster, I recommend Stoked at 4 caps a day, 2AM and 2PM. This is a strong cycle, may want to add some bacopa monnieri, rhidiola rosea, l-theanine(at night), and sAME for proper brain and nerve support as well. Clomid is another good SERM you can incorporate in your pct as well, it would like 150/100/50/50. Whatever you choose to do is up to you. Enjoy your cycle.

 

[GeeJayEL]

holy **** this Toremifene citrate is expensive. Nolva is much much cheaper. i think that would be my major deciding factor in this. money is definitely an issue.

by the way i'm almost done with the first part of the cycle. i used the decabolen. its good **** works very well. noticeable size difference by others i dont really notice it just cause i see myself everyday haha.
but strenght went up too.

thanks alot guys.

also what do you guys thing about IGF and betaecdysterone of the off cycle just so im still taking something thats gonna help me get bigger even when im off?

 

[GeeJayEL]

oh i didnt realize i couldnt say the sh.. word haha i'll know that for next times