ecdysterone and turkesterone are both good for promoting protein synthesis.
The problem right now is the dosage,way too much is needed to gain an effect,(ie not worth the money) and the delivery system.
If someone could get a good delivery system and get a good price on it, it would be a good product.
Its anecdotal evidence, but look at Russians Ecdysterone injecteble log. It worked for him.
But your right, all current /turk product currently avaivable are nearly useless.