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Melatonin lowers testosterone?

  1.  11-06-2008  11:50 AM
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    Melatonin lowers testosterone?





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    Interesting- I have taken it for years and I stay pretty jacked
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    Ya, I thought the theory was that a deeper sleep allows your body to produce the testosterone it needs.

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    me too- guess we were wrong
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    It has been shown too increase prolactin in humans. I havent seen any studies regarding testosterone, and humans, for what its worth.

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    0.5mg/kg = 50mg for a 220lb person. Huge dosage, although I'm not sure how to translate the rat dosage into human terms.

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    Originally Posted by Screwtape View Post
    0.5mg/kg = 50mg for a 220lb person. Huge dosage, although I'm not sure how to translate the rat dosage into human terms.
    50 mg would probably **** you up there is an equation to translate surface area and mg/kg from rats to humans- I will look around for it....
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    Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    It has been shown too increase prolactin in humans. I havent seen any studies regarding testosterone, and humans, for what its worth.
    There also was a human study where melatonin taken orally pre-workout increased GH levels. If estrogen regulates GH, is there a link between the lower testosterone and high GH?

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    Originally Posted by dfohio View Post
    There also was a human study where melatonin taken orally pre-workout increased GH levels. If estrogen regulates GH, is there a link between the lower testosterone and high GH?
    I cant really say for sure. Im not really positive on the relationship between GH and test. But as far as I know they're not mutual exclusive, meaning one doesnt have to be high, for the other too be low.

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    Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    Ya, I thought the theory was that a deeper sleep allows your body to produce the GH it needs.
    Fixed.

    I've never heard about it inhibiting Testosterone, I've usied it in a blend (Scivation Knockout) and I haven't noticed any regression in the gym or in the bedroom.

    I know it does promote REM Sleep and to release Growth Hormone.

    I've heard about people using it for Pre Workout to spike GH, but I haven't tried it myself.

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    Originally Posted by sp447 View Post
    Fixed.

    I've never heard about it inhibiting Testosterone, I've usied it in a blend (Scivation Knockout) and I haven't noticed any regression in the gym or in the bedroom.

    I know it does promote REM Sleep and to release Growth Hormone.

    I've heard about people using it for Pre Workout to spike GH, but I haven't tried it myself.
    GH? Good deal!

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    Isnt normal dosage 3 to 6 mg?

    50mg...........jeezzz louise.

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    Yes, normal dosing is 3 to 6 mg.

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    I'd go into a coma if I took 50mg.

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    Research shows that melatonin is effective at even less than 1 mg.

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    so this study is based on doses given to rats that equal 50mg to people? that is 10x what a sane person would take, where is the relevance?

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    Someone else is talking about rats. I'm not.

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    I take 1mg before bed so I don't think I have to worry about this.

    BTW, experiments on humans have been done with 6 GRAMS of melatonin with no signs of toxicity.

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    Originally Posted by dfohio View Post
    There also was a human study where melatonin taken orally pre-workout increased GH levels. ...
    Muscletech is always talking about this study...adding Melatonin to everything they make..lol

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    Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    Muscletech is always talking about this study...adding Melatonin to everything they make..lol
    You mean Yohimbine.....

    I know they put Melatonin in their new testosterone booster, I saw it the other day and laughed at the ingredients.

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