hey guys ive been doin some research about AA and have been wonderin in Max Out would be the best option of the ones out there, and if it would be beneficial for me at 17. sorry if i sound like an idiot lol
hey guys ive been doin some research about AA and have been wonderin in Max Out would be the best option of the ones out there, and if it would be beneficial for me at 17. sorry if i sound like an idiot lol
Don't just expect supps . . . what about intense training and a solid diet. He is in his prime time for muscle building and will be for another 3-4 years! Your natural test is so high you dont need much else:woohoo:damn son, 17? youre a beast. What supps have u been taking??
Uh, what?Not trying to put any one down here, but one of the most hated questions I here is, as soon as you see a picture of a guy or girl with a great physique, some people will ask "Whoa, man what supps have you been taking?". Come on people, supplements have that name for a reason they are made to SUPPLEMENT your !DIET!.
40%Diet
40%Training
20%Supplement
And thats pushing it, I would move to say 45,45,10
the arachidonic acids effectiveness shouldnt have anything to do that i dont believe... and id think my natural levels at 17 would be sufficient. would it even be beneficial at my age to use a test booster?dude max out anit really going to help u unless u run a test booster or somthing that supplys exogenus test
re read the wright up, it amplifys the the way test gets used, and makes u more suceptable to growth
your right bro, what alwaysgaining said doesnt make sense, arichindonic acid works great by itself, plus, anyways max out indeed has icarrin and 25-r-diol which affect hormone levels. Dont wory icarin id say is pretty safe, i dont know too much about 25-r-diol but it should be fairly safe as well. If you dont want the test boosting properties at all,then just take plain arichindonic acid aka x-factorthe arachidonic acids effectiveness shouldnt have anything to do that i dont believe... and id think my natural levels at 17 would be sufficient. would it even be beneficial at my age to use a test booster?
yeah leave the boosters, AI's and borderline hormonals alone.I don't see a test booster doing any good for someone our age, since our test is through the roof at this age.
If someone were to run the Max-Out what would be the best protocol for doing so? Would it be best to run with a test booster? something like MassFX or the like?
I got a blood test done and I was actually out of the limits, something like 830-840 ng/dl. Would I still benefit from Max-out + Test booster, or just Max-out?
Sorry for the hijack
thanks a lot bro, im pretty ready to try this. Im just curious as to how effective it will be. thats usually the case though because there arent a lot of logs by people my age, guess ill hope for the best and maybe log it. who knows thoyeah leave the boosters, AI's and borderline hormonals alone.
You dont need it OP.
FOOD
TRAINING
SLEEP
Additional supps. IMO, In this order
Protein
EFA's
Multivitamin
I must say you pick good supps.
Ether is good
AP is good
Green Mag is good
No booze or smoke...........
solid foundation, keep up the good work.
im currently doing a log of bulk x-factor but no one was listening to it, so i end it. Ive tried icarrin as well, it helps with pumps.thanks a lot bro, im pretty ready to try this. Im just curious as to how effective it will be. thats usually the case though because there arent a lot of logs by people my age, guess ill hope for the best and maybe log it. who knows tho
35% DietNot trying to put any one down here, but one of the most hated questions I here is, as soon as you see a picture of a guy or girl with a great physique, some people will ask "Whoa, man what supps have you been taking?". Come on people, supplements have that name for a reason they are made to SUPPLEMENT your !DIET!.
40%Diet
40%Training
20%Supplement
And thats pushing it, I would move to say 45,45,10
where's the log? u didn't tell me.im currently doing a log of bulk x-factor but no one was listening to it, so i end it. Ive tried icarrin as well, it helps with pumps.
Youll like it, trust me, be prepared for soreness.
it dissappeared bc i no one was interestedwhere's the log? u didn't tell me.
Fire up a log, I'll sub.it dissappeared bc i no one was interested
it called bulk x-factor log and review in process
I tried several ways of dosing it and such, but i think the interesting part of it starts soon, the latter 25 days.
Im also taking DCP with it right now which is pretty dam good.
then im gonna be adding Diesel test hardcore and nose ether on the latter 25 days, u think i should start a new log?
also takin bulk supercissis, but i think im gonna switch to primaforcem and then i might do sesamin after DCP
its not from the 25 R its from the AA, P5P ldopa and chaste berry will helpwatch out from the 25-r-diol. apparently im prolactin gyno because this made it occur. of course a bit of p-5-p and zinc and it disappeared though, but it has never completely gone away since
well i recieved mine from massfx and that doenst contain AA. so thats why i assumed it being 25Rits not from the 25 R its from the AA, P5P ldopa and chaste berry will help
good luck.
hmm interesting, the compound in mass FX doesnt aromatize either... so what else were u taking while it happened.well i recieved mine from massfx and that doenst contain AA. so thats why i assumed it being 25R
nothing, just mass fx. i have heard the occurance of this from other users of mass fx as well who are prolactin sensitivehmm interesting, the compound in mass FX doesnt aromatize either... so what else were u taking while it happened.
nothing, just mass fx. i have heard the occurance of this from other users of mass fx as well who are prolactin sensitive
yeah hmm. i noticed no effects from the mass fx either so you think with elevated test i would have noticed an increased result. oh well. but yeah makes sense.
what would you guys recommend to reduce chances of this happenin with Max Out
i dont think you have a problem with estrogen on max out. i think its the divanyl that causes this, and this is not in max out. if you want an anti-estrogen,get DIM, will be good to add to max out, even if doesnt contribute to estrogen. Dont buy an atd or bromo product, i think you couldnt handle to joint dryness, and the other side effects those products bring.goodluckwhat would you guys recommend to reduce chances of this happenin with Max Out
would the hyperdrol x2 have any benefits as far as gains for someone my age
been liftin for about bout 6 years and bout 2 seriousit will get u ripped and make u strong, but i might look into other products. How much exercise experience u have?
what? this is just flat out WRONG.dude max out anit really going to help u unless u run a test booster or somthing that supplys exogenus test
re read the wright up, it amplifys the the way test gets used, and makes u more suceptable to growth
if anything max out will help utilize his natural levels better .what? this is just flat out WRONG.
you need to re-read that write up...
what? this is just flat out WRONG.
you need to re-read that write up...
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