Whats the difference between L-Dopa and 1-carboxy?
- 09-29-2008, 10:39 PM
- 09-30-2008, 09:40 PM\\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //
- 09-30-2008, 09:50 PM
10-01-2008, 01:18 AM
^so really the bulk ldopa 15%=bulk carboxy?cool
10-02-2008, 02:40 PM
subbed for future reference... good question
10-02-2008, 06:36 PM
bulk carboxy is 50% extract
10-02-2008, 11:45 PM
This is also not a supplement to be taken lightly, as chronic excess dopamine has health consequences. I'm not saying don't take it, but do your research. In a different way, it is as serious as taking steroids.
10-03-2008, 02:06 AM
10-03-2008, 01:33 PM
10-03-2008, 02:14 PM
10-04-2008, 02:53 AM
I suspect I have super low dopamine levels so this is a great topic!
10-04-2008, 09:21 AM
I will attempt to clear this pertinent issue up, most importantly, without abasing myself or the company to any particular individual!
In respects to Mucuna extraction and administration, there are two primary concerns: The inherent L-DOPA content, and the content of both PDCIs (peripheral decarboxylase inhibitors), as well as independent L-DOPA-enhancing adjuvents; necessarily, due to the function of L-DOPA itself, one component is as important as the other.
To address the first concern, this particular extract is 15%, while the Bulk 1-C is 50% (after extraction); herein, the difference is most ostensibly quantitative, but may be qualitative as well. This is not to necessarily devalue the quality of NP's extract - a priori of either trying it or having the necessary information on it - but rather to elucidate that the quality of the Mucuna has prominent effects on the quality of the components we are concerned with.
In accordance with the inherent PDCIs and other L-DOPA-enhancing adjuvents, I may only speak for ourselves, and not for NP; in that respect, we deliberately extract for PDCIs, which are the cornerstone of an effective L-DOPA-based product - simply put, a product without high PDCIs content is both relatively unsafe, and ineffective. Obviously, as I have no data on NP's product, this is not to insinuate one way or another that their product has 'X' or 'Y' PDCI content!
10-04-2008, 09:52 AM
10-04-2008, 10:05 AM
Summary of Mulletsoldier's post (see above for full details):
2 Factor to consider, 1) L-Dopa Content 2) peripheral decarboxylase inhibitors (PDCIs)
NP's bulk is 15% L-Dopa, 1-Carboxy is 50%
1-Carboxy is extracted for PDCI's, unknown if NP's does as well
10-05-2008, 11:12 PM
Ok, so aside from the shop talk, I'll vouch for the current version of USP PowerFull. I have noticablely enhanced sleep patterns with PowerFull. And Powerfull has resolved "prolactin like" abnormal sensations for me on 2 seperate occasions within 3-4 days. I have not had any negative effects from PowerFull, including no peripheral symptoms.
Let's hear the feedback on NP's 1 carboxy then...
10-06-2008, 08:35 AM
10-06-2008, 03:50 PM
NPs version..a less powerful(hehe..get it?)version of USPs...
12-25-2008, 05:34 PM
bump - so these are pretty much the same, the biggest different being the extract ratio. 15% vs 50%. anything else im missing?
12-25-2008, 08:34 PM
what is an effective dose of l-dopa? an excessive dose??
01-13-2009, 01:45 AM
After taking it i didnt get up till the aftenoon the next day had like 10hrs sleep, i was really grogy when i got up, the sleep was heaps deeper and i didnt even get up to go to take a piss. The next night I had the same results, personaly i felt some difference between the 2 product
ive been taking 2 teaspoons of l dopa and i only had 1 of the 1-carboxy cause i knew it was stronger
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