Honestly, N... Run it for 21 days at the single dose. M-Stak doesn't operate on a single ingredient. For a heads up on what you might expect: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=316
thanks for your reply, but do you know if is there any problem in doubling the dose, I was thinking in doing that on the 10 first days of a pct (stacked with nolva)
that's exactly what I`m asking, what are the ingredients that can become toxic if I double the dose?
that's an idea, any thoughts on the possible product?
There always could be... That's why the recommended dose is for a single pack.
I already tried m-stack(first version) with so so results, that's why I want to go with more ecdy this time, but to prevent possible overdosage I`ll stack the M with e-bol or x-test , that will make the 5mg /kg I want and I hope it can prevent muscle loss in my future PCT
I dont doubt that m-stack is good on a single pack but my major objective is to achieve 5mg/kg of ecdy, the latest studies show that this is the dosage with a better cost/benefit ratio on this compound, of course that the extra ingredients on the M-stack are a bonus , that's why I chose to use it
Yeah there was a big thing about that over at bb.com
thermolife had a suspicion on m-stack , they tested the product on a third party and seems like the product doesn't have turkesterone in it, this is a very expensive ingredient and it was a great plus to the M but according to the lab test there`s 0 turk in it, I laugh not to cry
yeah, this was one of the greatest company disappointments of my life, if this is true (and unfortunately I believe it is cause no one make so serious accusations without a big certain on the facts) UN is dead for me , respect on the costumer above all, oh by the way thermolife said that the new mass fx doesn't have turk either, F*C*
Ron Kramer (owner of TL) paid Chromadex to create a standard for turk. As a result, because he is paying for a standard, he does not want other companies to make $$ of something that isn't in their products. Especially something that he is paying to standardize.
makes sense and thank god Ron made the test, its about time someone expose this situations
Yeah, except he was perma-banned. That's the problem when sites are run by money and for money
Ron said that pure turk is too expensive nowadays for companies to sell it , so he decided to test the competitors, guess what , maybe he was right...
really??????????Yeah, except he was perma-banned. That's the problem when sites are run by money and for money
Yes, they said he broke the rules that no affiliated member can attack another member..which I suppose was correct. Just sad to see that he was unable to finish what he started, especially cause it may have been better for the consumers.
agreed bro, I hope this **** of adulterate supp facts to end once and for all...
and hopefully it's not because the feds go ape **** on the industry
they should come here and answer , but they are silent on bb.com , universal made a statement regarding this , go to bb forums/company promotion, you`ll find it there(nothing extraordinary in their statement though)
sadly
Strong c/p skills
they put the ingredients in the formula without testing them:wtf:, cause if they had tested them, they would have a lab test now to show us , but no , they only got words so I`m afraid my trust in UN is now on the mud, I was a loyal costumer but I cant trust a company that put stuff on their products without knowing what it is, first money then the costumers healthStrong c/p skills
I just hope they don't consider the situation resolved by sending in a CoA from the lab that THEY run.
I hope for both Universal, and the industry's sake, things are TRULY rectified and made 'right'.
thanks for your post and as you probably now I always said good things about UN, but believe me only words will not solve this situation , this is very serious cause its dealing with the costumer overall trust in your company.
so still no news??????????????'
or in this case there`s no turk without a m-stack...
There will be more info coming soon. Universal is still gathering all the info.
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