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    Exclamation Did Universal/Animal take over this board??


    I know they haven't taken over anything but it seems like a hostile takeover with every other thread being universal/animal. I have tried animal pak, animal pump, and shock therapy, and I am NOT a fan of them. It's ok to pimp a company or product but damn too much is sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Knox View Post
    I know they haven't taken over anything but it seems like a hostile takeover with every other thread being universal/animal. I have tried animal pak, animal pump, and shock therapy, and I am NOT a fan of them. It's ok to pimp a company or product but damn too much is sickening.

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    It's just the initial start-up.

    Adding your company's promotions, FAQ's, etc. They're great guys, and have already been contributing to some threads (the post-workout one) without pimping their products.

    I've known them for years, and I really do feel they'll fit in nicely here. Give it a little time, and you'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    It's just the initial start-up...
    Agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Knox View Post
    I know they haven't taken over anything but it seems like a hostile takeover with every other thread being universal/animal. I have tried animal pak, animal pump, and shock therapy, and I am NOT a fan of them. It's ok to pimp a company or product but damn too much is sickening.

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    what did you expect, they are ANIMALS
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    at least they are not knocking everyone else like that supreme character.
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    The best is their products got ripped on until they became a sponsor... This is one of the main reasons I also hit up BB.com, they are a bit less expereinced but eccept for a muscletech biased they are much more honest and less fiscally motivated as a community.
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    I can't say I am a fan of their products or anything but I think they have been very respectfull and courteous.
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    Supplements aside they are contributing to the board quite a bit...snagency's PWO thread is a perfect example. They have contributed a lot and given me some good pointers over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    The best is their products got ripped on until they became a sponsor... This is one of the main reasons I also hit up BB.com, they are a bit less expereinced but eccept for a muscletech biased they are much more honest and less fiscally motivated as a community.
    So let me get this straight...

    You have a site that does mid-high 8 figures in sales per year...has probably 10x the amount of companies and reps, has rules that state reps can't negatively comment about other companies, has $50k giveaway contests, and they are less fiscally motivated than here?


    Got it.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I must go delete those anabolic pump stomach issue threads and the get diesel non responder thread that I saw pop up today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    So let me get this straight...

    You have a site that does mid-high 8 figures in sales per year...has probably 10x the amount of companies and reps, has rules that state reps can't negatively comment about other companies, has $50k giveaway contests, and they are less fiscally motivated than here?


    Got it.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I must go delete those anabolic pump stomach issue threads and the get diesel non responder thread that I saw pop up today.



    HAHAHA...ouch.
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    You've been served...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    You've been served...

    It wasn't meant to sound that way. Unlike most, I don't think the word profit is a bad word. BB.com does what they do extremely well. Liberty Media doesn't buy failing companies.
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    hahaha, owned

    Whenever any new company comes on board with the forum it has to be looked at as a positive thing. Not everyone is a fan of universal products but there are alot of people who are, and alot of people that might be interested in trying thier products if they havent already. Its a benefit to us as consumers to have as much info on every brand possible.
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    Can I buy a hat..?

    Seriously, this is why I like this board. Admin's are straight forward, and don't delete unbiased reviews.

    Animal has the right to advertise. That is why they are now a sponsor. As I see it, they have been very respectful. Until they invade logs that are ongoing with advertisements, then they're good with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    So let me get this straight...

    You have a site that does mid-high 8 figures in sales per year...has probably 10x the amount of companies and reps, has rules that state reps can't negatively comment about other companies, has $50k giveaway contests, and they are less fiscally motivated than here?


    Got it.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I must go delete those anabolic pump stomach issue threads and the get diesel non responder thread that I saw pop up today.

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    I apologize on behalf of Universal if it seems we came on strong. We are learning the lay of the land here and trying to get caught up. Even though we are a large company, it seems we are not well known here.

    I am sure we will blend in better as we go along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    I apologize on behalf of Universal if it seems we came on strong. We are learning the lay of the land here and trying to get caught up. Even though we are a large company, it seems we are not well known here.

    I am sure we will blend in better as we go along.
    Like I said previously I don't think you came on that strong at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    So let me get this straight...

    You have a site that does mid-high 8 figures in sales per year...has probably 10x the amount of companies and reps, has rules that state reps can't negatively comment about other companies, has $50k giveaway contests, and they are less fiscally motivated than here?


    Got it.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I must go delete those anabolic pump stomach issue threads and the get diesel non responder thread that I saw pop up today.

    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be. Here is a flavor of the month type thing with whatever is newest getting unanimous positive feedback without any reason (recreate ect...)

    I like the board for entertainment purposes and the weight loss forum and the NP deals but don't act like anyone here is honest on their reviews besides maybe reaperX and I can't stand him but give him some light props.

    Sorry for all this but personally I think 99% of supplements are BS even the ones sold by sponsors here and everyone act like some proprietary blend is going to change bodybuilding forever because it is the flavor of the month and now we can add universal to that (which is a company I actually kinda like)
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be. Here is a flavor of the month type thing with whatever is newest getting unanimous positive feedback without any reason (recreate ect...)

    I like the board for entertainment purposes and the weight loss forum and the NP deals but don't act like anyone here is honest on their reviews besides maybe reaperX and I can't stand him but give him some light props.
    Are you saying everyone else is biased? Compared to BB.com??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Are you saying everyone else is biased? Compared to BB.com??
    Um find one negative review on here of a sponsored product... everyone is flipping out like every product put out is changing their lives... I believe a select few ingredients are worth the money but everything else is a waste...

    I'll back off... I guess we all get in our moods and right now I am down on all supplements and posting on a board where everyone is positive on them so ofcourse I'm rocking the boat...

    Eventhough I shouldn't I think I need a drink ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be. Here is a flavor of the month type thing with whatever is newest getting unanimous positive feedback without any reason (recreate ect...)

    I like the board for entertainment purposes and the weight loss forum and the NP deals but don't act like anyone here is honest on their reviews besides maybe reaperX and I can't stand him but give him some light props.

    Sorry for all this but personally I think 99% of supplements are BS even the ones sold by sponsors here and everyone act like some proprietary blend is going to change bodybuilding forever because it is the flavor of the month and now we can add universal to that (which is a company I actually kinda like)
    I gotta kind of agree, on some points... This is the 3rd or 4th company i have seen get **** on, then become a sponsor, start giving things out, and everyone all of a sudden loves them. Legal Gear is a perfect example of another.

    Not to mention it seems like the same 5-10 people log every sponsored log around here.. I sometimes wonder if these people even have to buy anything on their own dime.lol

    Not complaining, just stating my take on it. IMO this is the best BB related board, and the only one i spend any significant time on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be.
    your view on the "community" you mention is through some very rose colored spectacles bro
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    Hmmmm.......Universl has been around for 25 years......sounds like a terrible company to me............LOL......RIGHT.
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    Universal has done nothing but good for me. Their products are great (very good prices) and their Animal line is sick. They're a very solid company and I think as time goes by, they will be widely respected across am.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    your view on the "community" you mention is through some very rose colored spectacles bro
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um find one negative review on here of a sponsored product... everyone is flipping out like every product put out is changing their lives... I believe a select few ingredients are worth the money but everything else is a waste...
    I can tell you are a BB.com-er. No offense, just alot of negativity over there.

    The only Animal thread I have seen today is this one..

    Funny how in the supplement forum people are discussing supplements. Weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be. Here is a flavor of the month type thing with whatever is newest getting unanimous positive feedback without any reason (recreate ect...)
    They don't have non sponsors. In fact, they don't have sponsors. They have over 10x the amount of companies give out 10x the amounts of freebies. Its all relative and you can the same thing about numerous companies and products over there since 2000.

    I like the board for entertainment purposes and the weight loss forum and the NP deals but don't act like anyone here is honest on their reviews besides maybe reaperX and I can't stand him but give him some light props.

    How the hell do you know? Basically saying everyone is lying or biased is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Its just as bad as someone saying they are all telling the truth.

    Sorry for all this but personally I think 99% of supplements are BS even the ones sold by sponsors here and everyone act like some proprietary blend is going to change bodybuilding forever because it is the flavor of the month and now we can add universal to that (which is a company I actually kinda like)
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um find one negative review on here of a sponsored product... everyone is flipping out like every product put out is changing their lives... I believe a select few ingredients are worth the money but everything else is a waste...
    i was a get deisel non responder

    Posted today.






    I'll back off... I guess we all get in our moods and right now I am down on all supplements and posting on a board where everyone is positive on them so ofcourse I'm rocking the boat...

    Eventhough I shouldn't I think I need a drink ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.
    that is a poor analogy

    i think you're digging yourself deeper into a hole with that one

    here's a couple of recent threads in the supp section

    Anabolic Pump - Horrible Stomach Problems

    Most worthless recent supplement ?
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    You really have no clue what you're talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    I apologize on behalf of Universal if it seems we came on strong. We are learning the lay of the land here and trying to get caught up. Even though we are a large company, it seems we are not well known here.

    I am sure we will blend in better as we go along.
    Simply AMAZING!

    I have been a member here for about 5 years and this is probably one of if not the best post I have EVER seen.

    My hat is off to you Natural Guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Simply AMAZING!

    I have been a member here for about 5 years and this is probably one of if not the best post I have EVER seen.

    My hat is off to you Natural Guy!

    nuff said


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    These are really some great guys, and I'm sure you'll all find out in due time
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    personally I think 99% of supplements are BS
    why are you in the supplement section then?
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    Well I've been away all day and I must say that I am a bit surprised at how this thread has taken off! Wasn't trying to start too much shyt, just making a personal observation. As stated before they have been around for over 25 years, but they have failed to evolve with the industry IMO. They can change this if they want, and maybe joining this community is a first step in that direction. Thanks for all the honest opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Knox View Post
    Well I've been away all day and I must say that I am a bit surprised at how this thread has taken off! Wasn't trying to start too much shyt, just making a personal observation. As stated before they have been around for over 25 years, but they have failed to evolve with the industry IMO. They can change this if they want, and maybe joining this community is a first step in that direction. Thanks for all the honest opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    i was a get deisel non responder

    Posted today.







    "Everyone"

    Right.
    Well DTCH is about the largest load of BS put out in the last few years by a legitimate company - Even ReaperX the pimp of Get Diesel gave it a positive review while only gaining like 2 pounds, it was hilarious he went on about how he noticed no change then said it was a good product...

    Eh whatever, I'm not here to start fights but Universal going from the black sheap to a golden cow simply by changing their status on the board has gotten me going. Again i think they are a decent company and that never changed because of them becoming a sponsor.
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    Where are the "I hated Universal until they gave me a t-shirt" threads? With any product or company you'll find both negative and positive reviews and i'm sure they're no different.

    This is a community as you have stated and when dealing with a community; your demeanor is key to a future relationship. Giving away t-shirts will go only so far in selling products and giving away supposed "bunk" products won't even get you as far as a free T. With every rule you have exceptions but taking an exception and making it a rule doesn't work.

    I have been here for a long damn time and this is a very good community to belong to and this includes our sponsors. I don't know Universal from Joe at this moment but the way they have conducted themselves so far has shown me that they probably belong with the other sponsors who spend long hours and many days coming to people's threads to help out without 'pimping' any of their products.

    My .02 cents.
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    I don't see how anyone can hate on a company that comes in and starts handing supplements out to anyone who wants them right off the bat. My hat's off to you, gentlemen. I have not tried your products, but I am ready to give them a shot and see for myself what Universal/Animal is all about.
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