"Stimulant Break" Necessary, Science or BroScience?

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  1. Does anyone know how the adrenals thing started? JC
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  2. Well perhaps this book had something to do with it: Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome it is available on that rain forest site that sells everything. I would link but they sell supps and that is bad form.

    Personally I wonder if the "adrenal fatigue" people seem to suffer, and I personally feel burnt out over time myself on stims, has something to do with sleep quality. Taking stimulants has been theorized to effect sleep in some individuals. Even if sleeping the normal amount of time one sleeps perhaps getting lower quality ie less deep sleep for a month ends up wearing us out and we jump to the conclusion that our adrenals are fatigued.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bigflex0 View Post
    Well perhaps this book had something to do with it: Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome it is available on that rain forest site that sells everything. I would link but they sell supps and that is bad form.

    Personally I wonder if the "adrenal fatigue" people seem to suffer, and I personally feel burnt out over time myself on stims, has something to do with sleep quality. Taking stimulants has been theorized to effect sleep in some individuals. Even if sleeping the normal amount of time one sleeps perhaps getting lower quality ie less deep sleep for a month ends up wearing us out and we jump to the conclusion that our adrenals are fatigued.
    That's causation. If you don't get sleep due to stims then there's your issue, not your adrenals. You're just tired.

  4. I understand that what I am saying is that perhaps people are getting less restful sleep and when then get burnt out are attributing it to "adrenal fatigue."

  5. Or 'adrenal fatigue' could be a significant change the hormonal profile due to stimulants and an excessive calorie deficit for a prolonged period that takes several weeks or months to normalise. I went through this last year and I also attributed to Adrenal Fatigue until Coop and others schooled me. But what I can say is that I felt awful for a number of weeks and couldn't return to the gym for a good four months. So there was something at play even if not the adrenals.
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  7. So...
    I don't have to take 4 weeks off from alphamine!?!?
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  8. Is one week off stims enough for a "break"

    My friends never have a break just stop taking pre workouts and just cut down to a coffee in the morning for a week or two.

  9. Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers

    LMAO!!!.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers
    Didn't we confirm that adrenal blow out is bs?

    These guys take stims for like up to 3 months of so then just take a week off

  12. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers
    hey REP get the **** out of here pushing your BS product. you dont need a ****ing adrenal rest supplement, if anything thats COUNTER productive. it takes two weeks for your tolerance (on average) to g back to normal and reset.

  13. No one is attempting to push a product out for him. It was a kind recommendation for him & tip for future reference. By the way my name isn't REP EatMoar so if you could as in I did for you I addressed you by your name.
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  14. Adrenal Blowout is bs? Well, let me tell you that when the adrenal glands don't function properly it's called Addison disease. Thus, although your mates take stim for up to 3 months what they don't realize is the fact that if they continue is that it leads to high cortisol levels. I myself personally can't do the constant intake of caffeine & pre-workouts for that long of a time period as your mates have. I usually take a break from the stims. But, I as well use to take take pre-workouts 3-4 days at a time a week (range from 200mg-300mg). It had gotten to a point where the pwo wern't working for me at all & I would drink a high carb protein shake 45 min before taking my pre-workout just to give me that extra perk of energy in the gym. I've taken an assortment of various one's, also it depends on how much caffeine and other stims are contained in a pre-workout. For instance I once had a sample of Razor8 which contains 400mg of caffeine & it didn't do squat for me at all.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers
    Getting an adrenal blowout when Im going 65 on the highway is one of my biggest fears.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Adrenal Blowout is bs? Well, let me tell you that when the adrenal glands don't function properly it's called Addison disease. Thus, although your mates take stim for up to 3 months what they don't realize is the fact that if they continue is that it leads to high cortisol levels. I myself personally can't do the constant intake of caffeine & pre-workouts for that long of a time period as your mates have. I usually take a break from the stims. But, I as well use to take take pre-workouts 3-4 days at a time a week (range from 200mg-300mg). It had gotten to a point where the pwo wern't working for me at all & I would drink a high carb protein shake 45 min before taking my pre-workout just to give me that extra perk of energy in the gym. I've taken an assortment of various one's, also it depends on how much caffeine and other stims are contained in a pre-workout. For instance I once had a sample of Razor8 which contains 400mg of caffeine & it didn't do squat for me at all.
    Im confused, is Addisons caused by taking too many stims or not taking enough CTDLABS Adrenal Fix-A-Flat?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Adrenal Blowout is bs? Well, let me tell you that when the adrenal glands don't function properly it's called Addison disease. Thus, although your mates take stim for up to 3 months what they don't realize is the fact that if they continue is that it leads to high cortisol levels. I myself personally can't do the constant intake of caffeine & pre-workouts for that long of a time period as your mates have. I usually take a break from the stims. But, I as well use to take take pre-workouts 3-4 days at a time a week (range from 200mg-300mg). It had gotten to a point where the pwo wern't working for me at all & I would drink a high carb protein shake 45 min before taking my pre-workout just to give me that extra perk of energy in the gym. I've taken an assortment of various one's, also it depends on how much caffeine and other stims are contained in a pre-workout. For instance I once had a sample of Razor8 which contains 400mg of caffeine & it didn't do squat for me at all.
    Have you got any studies or any scientific back up of adrenal blowout existing? Wouldn't the whole world be under this? I work in the office and nearly every single person drink copious cups of coffee a day and not once or even heard of having a break.

    I understand the need to have a break to not develop a dependency or a tolerance.

    So is everyone saying NO caffeine at all for a week or two or just cutting out all pre workouts and maybe keeping a morning coffee is ok to do here and there

  18. Did I just read that taking stims causes addison's disease? Hmm, you have rewritten the medical textbooks sir

  19. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    Adrenal Blowout is bs? Well, let me tell you that when the adrenal glands don't function properly it's called Addison disease. Thus, although your mates take stim for up to 3 months what they don't realize is the fact that if they continue is that it leads to high cortisol levels. I myself personally can't do the constant intake of caffeine & pre-workouts for that long of a time period as your mates have. I usually take a break from the stims. But, I as well use to take take pre-workouts 3-4 days at a time a week (range from 200mg-300mg). It had gotten to a point where the pwo wern't working for me at all & I would drink a high carb protein shake 45 min before taking my pre-workout just to give me that extra perk of energy in the gym. I've taken an assortment of various one's, also it depends on how much caffeine and other stims are contained in a pre-workout. For instance I once had a sample of Razor8 which contains 400mg of caffeine & it didn't do squat for me at all.
    I'll address this awful post. Addison's disease is caused by genetic or autoimmune causes.

    If you don't feel stims, it is due to peripheral receptor downregulation.

    Cortisol increases from stims is transient and actually decreases with continuous use, not increases.

  20. I used to believe stimulants could cause adrenal fatigue.

    I also used to believe in Santa Claus.
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  21. Hahahaha

    All I asked was a question of how long is enough for a break and can you have one coffee a day

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I used to believe stimulants could cause adrenal fatigue.

    I also used to believe in Santa Claus.

    ....What...No Santa?. Who will bring me my PES Protein?.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by john A. View Post
    What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out.
    Ahh I see, Addisons is caused by literally blowing your adrenal gland out of your head. That makes more sense.

  24. You build a tolerance to stims.
    Take a stim break.
    A cup of coffee ed will not destroy your stim break.
    Easy enough right?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    You build a tolerance to stims.
    Take a stim break.
    A cup of coffee ed will not destroy your stim break.
    Easy enough right?
    Sounds easy as
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