"Stimulant Break" Necessary, Science or BroScience?
- 09-10-2013, 07:01 PM
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09-10-2013, 07:07 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6298543; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3003486 however this study found that adenosine receptors were not the culprit for tolerance: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1846425
It is possible to prevent tolerance by keeping the dosage low, however (i.e. a cup of coffee a day can continue to elicit its effects indefinitely).
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09-11-2013, 04:56 PM
have to listen to the joe rogan experience podcast w/ dave asprey....the first time he was on, he says adrenal fatigue does happen from coffee, but it's not from the stimulants in the coffee, it's the way it's processed and shipped, the coffee gets mold on it which is actually the factor for the adrenal fatigue and few other things
he actually sells a coffee that he claims is processed and never had the mold on it.....if thats true for all stimulants or for the caffeine in most supplements, i'm not sure but i tend to buy into what the guy is saying, my friend bought his coffee and described it as a different type of "high"
09-11-2013, 05:08 PM
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09-11-2013, 05:53 PM
The guy is an IT professional turned salesperson. He has many claims and most are without supporting evidence.
09-11-2013, 06:21 PM
09-11-2013, 06:43 PM
Dave Asprey just irks me. Here is an excerpt from his website - "You don’t like the taste of bad coffee for the same reason you don’t like the taste of gasoline: your body is telling you it’s toxic." I guess this is the extent of scientific method for Dave. Taste good = good for you , taste bad = bad for you. I picture Dave in a cave wielding a club as he says that. I wonder what Dave's theory is on stim breaks.
09-11-2013, 10:41 PM
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09-12-2013, 07:36 PM
I'm relatively new :/ sorry.. Just pertains to a situation I'm currently in, and as he said himself, science Is subject to change, and nothing is ironclad. Just wondering if there are any new ideas on the subject!
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09-12-2013, 11:29 PM
09-13-2013, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know how the adrenals thing started? JC
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09-13-2013, 12:54 PM
Well perhaps this book had something to do with it: Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome it is available on that rain forest site that sells everything. I would link but they sell supps and that is bad form.
Personally I wonder if the "adrenal fatigue" people seem to suffer, and I personally feel burnt out over time myself on stims, has something to do with sleep quality. Taking stimulants has been theorized to effect sleep in some individuals. Even if sleeping the normal amount of time one sleeps perhaps getting lower quality ie less deep sleep for a month ends up wearing us out and we jump to the conclusion that our adrenals are fatigued.
09-13-2013, 01:13 PM
09-13-2013, 10:44 PM
I understand that what I am saying is that perhaps people are getting less restful sleep and when then get burnt out are attributing it to "adrenal fatigue."
09-14-2013, 03:14 PM
Or 'adrenal fatigue' could be a significant change the hormonal profile due to stimulants and an excessive calorie deficit for a prolonged period that takes several weeks or months to normalise. I went through this last year and I also attributed to Adrenal Fatigue until Coop and others schooled me. But what I can say is that I felt awful for a number of weeks and couldn't return to the gym for a good four months. So there was something at play even if not the adrenals.
09-25-2013, 06:45 AM
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10-13-2013, 07:40 PM
Is one week off stims enough for a "break"
My friends never have a break just stop taking pre workouts and just cut down to a coffee in the morning for a week or two.
10-14-2013, 12:39 AM
Hello Horizons, The answer to your question is yes taking 1 week off a month from taking a break from stimulants. What happens is the body becomes so immune to the stimulants from caffeine or caffeine containing pre-workouts that they essentially stop working due to the adrenal glands working overtime & the fact it can damage your adrenal glands by literally blowing them out. Also, if you need a product to get your adrenal glands back to normal a must look into product from CTDLABS is Adrenal Reset this will help your adrenal glands back to normal as well as build your immune system, cheers
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