Best Joint/Tendon Supplement on the market?
- 08-07-2013, 11:49 AM
Best Joint/Tendon Supplement on the market?
Have a lot of problems with patellar tendonitis. First MRI just showed inflammation and now I'm getting a second after a cortisone shot did nothing. In the mean time what would you consider the best supplement for joint health, singular ingredient or comprehensive supplement? Looking to take something to help and be preventative in the future.
I ice, use a rehband compression sleeve, foam roll, attend PT, and use ibuprofen at the moment as advised by the ortho but he had no idea on joint/tendon supplements and was wondering if any were worth while in some of the smarter individuals opinions. I have very limited knowledge in this area besides what the talking head of a doctor has told me for the last year while providing zero relief.
I'm guessing my next step is synvisc or surgery in the near future after the MRI.
- 08-07-2013, 11:57 AM
iForce Joint help is excellent. Cissus Quadrangularis one of the ingredients have been used to heal broken bones, help out with tendon,ligament problems. I always stayed away from those cortisone shots which they wanted to use on my AC Joint. Talk to your doctor about surgery options if it's needed.
08-07-2013, 12:04 PM
I think fish oil is suppose to help with inflamation and joints. Sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. Though, I personally use fish oil and iForce Joint Help.
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08-07-2013, 12:05 PM
iForce's product may be best for your situation, as paractin is a cox-2 inhibitor (anti-inflammatory). I also love joint force
08-07-2013, 12:11 PM
Any problems with increasing the dosage on Joint Force to maybe 3 servings a day? 2 helped somewhat but not an appreciable amount.
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08-15-2013, 10:11 AM
I've tried cissus, msm, celadrin, hyaluronic acid, and glucosamine & chondroitin all on solo runs and I must say cissus is by far the best and glucosamine and chondroitin would be second but after a while they don't work anymore. Cissus for the win
08-15-2013, 12:32 PM
I realize joint help has been recommended but do you ice religiously? also I have had great success with castor oil packs on the affected joints. it really helps draw out the inflammation and seems to lubricate the joints. for me when the **** gets tough I use the 3 pronged attack!
joint help/ ice (15 on 15 off as often as possible) and castor oil packs.
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08-17-2013, 10:02 AM
Sorry to hear about that.
I been doing some research for a similar( runners knee) but less chronic issue I'm dealing with and have heard a lot of positive review/testimonials on E-pharms joint force. I'm hoping to try it soon if a few other thing don't work for me. Good luck let us know if anything ends up helping.
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08-17-2013, 06:16 PM
MSM at around 8 grams a day will probably do you the most good out of all 3.
I'd also get some Carlson's fish oil,take a tablespoon 2x a day with meals..It's a bit expensive but worth it as fish oil oxidizes much too easily.
Cissus has conflicting studies on it and it also lowers cortisol,which in itself can cause joint pain and discomfort.
08-18-2013, 02:15 PM
The ultimate Joint/Tendon Stack would be Cissus, AX's Athletic Joint Repair, and Fishoil...but I would say the thing you need to do ASAP is seek out an ART(Active Release Therapy) practitioner, schedule 4 appointments, and go from there! Seriously, I thought I was gonna have to have surgery to repair a torn bicep tendon, nothing helped, then I was turned on to ART, after 5 sessions I was 100%, and Im still in disbelief of the magic that was done to my arm in such a short period of time!
08-18-2013, 02:56 PM
Since there is a copious amount of products being pushed (in this thread and others in the Advanced Discussion sub-forum), can we look at the literature for specific compounds?
Coop, are you fine with that?
To begin, let's take a look at these compounds since most have been mentioned in above products:
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08-18-2013, 03:00 PM
I've already read some of Coops posts about Cissus, Id def love to hear his take on those last 4 ingredients!
08-18-2013, 08:53 PM
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08-18-2013, 09:08 PM
08-18-2013, 09:46 PM
Any triglyceride fish oil is protected from oxidation.
Cissus does not have a single study showing it reduces cortisol. It is a glucocorticoid antagonist in bone tissue, which means that it reduces resorption and helps bones heal.
Conversely, glucosamine and chondroitin have no good data demonstrating efficacy. This is the science section, meaning we are seeking to provide evidence-based suggestions, not the exact opposite.
08-18-2013, 09:52 PM
Even though this is the science section, I will recommend a product: Antaeus Achilles. One ingredient in particular has awesome data where longterm use is concerned
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08-19-2013, 08:13 AM
What is the composition of eggshell membrane?
What data has shown that topical Celadrin is superior?
(At work, so I don't have the time to research)
If I remember correctly, you've used these two compounds previously.
Let's take a look at the shoulder capsule and humeral articulation. For someone who experiences shoulder dislocations, the compounds in Achilles should be promising since the joint itself is protected from displacement by the tendons that surround it?
Lastly, does any data show growth versus preventative properties (i.e., cissus, albeit in bones, versus glucosamine)?
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