Epsom Salt bath & intramuscular water

[mcc23]

I've read that athletes and MMA fighters use Epsom Salt baths w/ Wintergreen alcohol to drop water weight and soothe sore muscles/joints.. They claim its supposed to remove extra-cellular water and spare the important intra-cellular water..I'm curious if this is actually accurate.. IMO the body would sense the lack of ECF and therefore release Intra-muscular fluid to maintain homeostasis/balance between the cell membrane. On the other hand, it's possible that if one sufficiently hydrates in enough time, that it would negate this from happening.. I know these baths have their muscle relaxing effects, but I think it would be canceled out by intramuscular dehydration if indeed that's what happens...

 

[mr.cooper69]

Water follows osmolytes, not water content

 

[gymrat727]

Hmm this is interesting.. Same concept when baseball pitchers take an ice bath I suppose?

 

[mcc23]

Hmm this is interesting.. Same concept when baseball pitchers take an ice bath I suppose?

No that's for inflammation...They also run a lot after their outings to sweat out toxins that are supposed to cause pain..

 

[mr.cooper69]

They also run a lot after their outings to sweat out toxins that are supposed to cause pain..

Huh?

 

[mcc23]

Huh?

An outing is the term for a pitching performance.. Like the starting pitcher goes 6 innings and gets pulled.. His "outing" was those 6innings

 

[Rodja]

He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.

 

[mr.cooper69]

He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.

Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder

 

[mcc23]

He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.

"Supposed." This never worked for me back in my playing days tbh.. Just dehydrated me and made me more tired...

 

[mcc23]

Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder

That's what I eventually wondered myself after I noticed 0 pain reduction. Only fatigue. It's just old information coaches everywhere go by. "Sweat it out and the pain will go away"

 

[mcc23]

So back to the inital question, the intra-cellular fluid shouldn't be affected, correct? What if you were to take a postassium iodide bath lol...:think: (not srs)

edit: it'd be a sulfate.. so potash

 

[alwaysfirst]

I've read that athletes and MMA fighters use Epsom Salt baths w/ Wintergreen alcohol to drop water weight and soothe sore muscles/joints.. They claim its supposed to remove extra-cellular water and spare the important intra-cellular water..I'm curious if this is actually accurate.. IMO the body would sense the lack of ECF and therefore release Intra-muscular fluid to maintain homeostasis/balance between the cell membrane. On the other hand, it's possible that if one sufficiently hydrates in enough time, that it would negate this from happening.. I know these baths have their muscle relaxing effects, but I think it would be canceled out by intramuscular dehydration if indeed that's what happens...

Interesting! I now a lot of fighters take 20+ pounds in water weight and have to "refuel" with IV after they weigh in.

 

[veaderko]

I take these baths regularly, but only to be able to relax the muscles. At most I have noticed when I am done I am much more vascular. That's about it. I can't say I have dropped water, maybe an experiment for the next time.

 

[mcc23]

I take these baths regularly, but only to be able to relax the muscles. At most I have noticed when I am done I am much more vascular. That's about it. I can't say I have dropped water, maybe an experiment for the next time.

The "vascularity" is a combination of the heat of the water dilating the blood vessels + the removal of subcutaneous water between the muscle and the skin

 

[veaderko]

The "vascularity" is a combination of the heat of the water dilating the blood vessels + the removal of subcutaneous water between the muscle and the skin

Oh, ok. That makes sense.

 

[JudoJosh]

Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder

Ima just leave this here for you

http://fitlife.tv/how-to-do-a-simple-detox-for-your-child/

And before you head explodes read some of the comments. I find it refreshing to see others who share my outrage for BS such as this

 

[mcc23]

Ima just leave this here for you

http://fitlife.tv/how-to-do-a-simple-detox-for-your-child/

And before you head explodes read some of the comments. I find it refreshing to see others who share my outrage for BS such as this

lol. I'm so doing that.

Those comments tore the poster a new one heh