Epsom Salt bath & intramuscular water

  1. Epsom Salt bath & intramuscular water


    I've read that athletes and MMA fighters use Epsom Salt baths w/ Wintergreen alcohol to drop water weight and soothe sore muscles/joints.. They claim its supposed to remove extra-cellular water and spare the important intra-cellular water..I'm curious if this is actually accurate.. IMO the body would sense the lack of ECF and therefore release Intra-muscular fluid to maintain homeostasis/balance between the cell membrane. On the other hand, it's possible that if one sufficiently hydrates in enough time, that it would negate this from happening.. I know these baths have their muscle relaxing effects, but I think it would be canceled out by intramuscular dehydration if indeed that's what happens...


  2. Water follows osmolytes, not water content
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  3. Hmm this is interesting.. Same concept when baseball pitchers take an ice bath I suppose?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat727 View Post
    Hmm this is interesting.. Same concept when baseball pitchers take an ice bath I suppose?

    No that's for inflammation...They also run a lot after their outings to sweat out toxins that are supposed to cause pain..

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    They also run a lot after their outings to sweat out toxins that are supposed to cause pain..
    Huh?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Huh?
    An outing is the term for a pitching performance.. Like the starting pitcher goes 6 innings and gets pulled.. His "outing" was those 6innings

  7. He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.
    Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder
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    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    He's referring to the toxins BS. You have a liver and renal system for that.
    "Supposed." This never worked for me back in my playing days tbh.. Just dehydrated me and made me more tired...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder

    That's what I eventually wondered myself after I noticed 0 pain reduction. Only fatigue. It's just old information coaches everywhere go by. "Sweat it out and the pain will go away"

  11. So back to the inital question, the intra-cellular fluid shouldn't be affected, correct? What if you were to take a postassium iodide bath lol... (not srs)

    edit: it'd be a sulfate.. so potash

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    I've read that athletes and MMA fighters use Epsom Salt baths w/ Wintergreen alcohol to drop water weight and soothe sore muscles/joints.. They claim its supposed to remove extra-cellular water and spare the important intra-cellular water..I'm curious if this is actually accurate.. IMO the body would sense the lack of ECF and therefore release Intra-muscular fluid to maintain homeostasis/balance between the cell membrane. On the other hand, it's possible that if one sufficiently hydrates in enough time, that it would negate this from happening.. I know these baths have their muscle relaxing effects, but I think it would be canceled out by intramuscular dehydration if indeed that's what happens...
    Interesting! I now a lot of fighters take 20+ pounds in water weight and have to "refuel" with IV after they weigh in.

  13. I take these baths regularly, but only to be able to relax the muscles. At most I have noticed when I am done I am much more vascular. That's about it. I can't say I have dropped water, maybe an experiment for the next time.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by veaderko View Post
    I take these baths regularly, but only to be able to relax the muscles. At most I have noticed when I am done I am much more vascular. That's about it. I can't say I have dropped water, maybe an experiment for the next time.
    The "vascularity" is a combination of the heat of the water dilating the blood vessels + the removal of subcutaneous water between the muscle and the skin

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    The "vascularity" is a combination of the heat of the water dilating the blood vessels + the removal of subcutaneous water between the muscle and the skin
    Oh, ok. That makes sense.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Where are these toxins coming from? Why do they cause pain (lol...)? Why would sweat help at all? Questions to ponder
    Ima just leave this here for you

    http://fitlife.tv/how-to-do-a-simple...or-your-child/

    And before you head explodes read some of the comments. I find it refreshing to see others who share my outrage for BS such as this
    "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Ima just leave this here for you

    http://fitlife.tv/how-to-do-a-simple...or-your-child/

    And before you head explodes read some of the comments. I find it refreshing to see others who share my outrage for BS such as this
    lol. I'm so doing that.

    Those comments tore the poster a new one heh
  

  
 

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