I would like to discuss something with the great minds here within this section.
Mods: this isnít about supplement science BUT can take scientific direction including studies etcÖ
I was talking to Coop the other day about our passions in the healthcare field and I know that many of the people that frequent this section are in the same field. With that being said he got me all revved up on my passion for tackling obesity. Now, for me healthcare is my passion, I care immensely about the people in this world that are knowingly killing themselves. What I would like to do is open up some discussion on the views here of my fellow posters that are incredibly intelligent and also have an insurmountable appreciation and passion for health and fitness.
Iím also going to be writing a paper on this so I may use some of your opinions or views as evidence, in which case, I would obviously ask for permission to do so.
Here are some common thoughts that I frequently come across in regards to this subject depending on who I am talking to about it.
1. Who cares let them die - Natural Selection.
- While I have to admit at times you can become jaded and say if they donít care about themselves why should I? There are still those that do make radical changes for themselves and isnít just that one life worth it? Within the total care of that 1% does that not also span out to their direct family? Have you ever noticed that people that make such radical changes become even more fanatical about living a healthy lifestyle than people who were fit their whole lives?
- On the other hand, look at the television show The Biggest Loser many of those
contestants quickly slip back into the same routines as before the show.
2. We have to limit their ability to kill themselves (Bloomberg).
- This for me is an incredibly slippery slope. Is it ok to violate some civil liberties for the betterment of the lives of those that donít exactly care to better their current situations? (Please keep the conversation on track and try not to fall off into political views. Iím strictly talking about instilling laws that do not allow people to commit harm to themselves via unhealthy lifestyles i.e. diet, sedentary habits etcÖ)
There are more I'm just strapped for time all of the sudden LOL
Please feel free to elaborate on your ideas and thoughts as Iíd like to hopefully have quite a bit of discussion in the matter.
What solutions are there and how would we go about making a change? Can we make a change? Can the healthcare system exclusively take a positive course of action to have a positive impact? Where does the change need to come from to have the most impact (think politics, schools, TV, healthcare providers, parentsÖ)?
Iíll start the discussion off myself. The solution in my mind needs to be multifaceted utilizing not just one but multiple tools to effectively make a change. Not only is obesity a medical problem but it is also a psychological problem and within the psyche of the obese are a multitude of behavioral patterns that directly contribute back and forth to the obesity making it worse but then also having the psychological problems being worsened by the increase of weight. Thus, continuing to spiral on a downward slope with each causation increasing the other condition.
Obesity and an unhealthy lifestyle is directly correlated with many significant medical conditions therefore if we were to be able to effectively shift the paradigm of Americans to not be so damn lazy we would be able to have an extremely vast, positive outcome on the health of many people. How would or could we go about that? In my opinion there is a way to tackle this and that is by as previously said utilizing multiple tools such as: medicine, public awareness (including children), diet consults, exercise regimens, follow ups, going over the psychological contributors to obesity and so on. However, how could all of this be done? I donít know about you guys but my personal physicianís assistant at my doctorís office usually spends a total of five minutes tops with me let alone a comprehensive evaluation going over such in depth measures.
Anyways rant over. The floor is open for discussion and again mods (Josh, Coop) if this isnít an appropriate thread for this subforum my bad.