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    IForce ECDY effectiveness


    Just saw this drop on Nutra and it caught my eye, does anyone have any information on the effectiveness of it's ingredient? Claims to amplify protein synthesis.

    Would love to hear Coop's opinion if he is around
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    Don't get me wrong, I love iForce, but if there's a bunk ingredient that needs to be phased out from the modern era, it's ecdysterone.
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    just use our hemananol for ur ecdy needs. comes with Humanofort, which SHOULD/WILL give u results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I love iForce, but if there's a bunk ingredient that needs to be phased out from the modern era, it's ecdysterone.
    I agree 100%. Ecdy's oral bio-availability isn't good at all and its molar mass is too great for use as a transdermal. Those that pioneered it back in the day took it through injection. iForce has been a very innovative brand but beware of ecdy products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zman8 View Post

    I agree 100%. Ecdy's oral bio-availability isn't good at all and its molar mass is too great for use as a transdermal. Those that pioneered it back in the day took it through injection. iForce has been a very innovative brand but beware of ecdy products.
    I thought it was more a question of the receptors not recognizing an insect steroid? Correct me if I am wrong. I'm here to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    I thought it was more a question of the receptors not recognizing an insect steroid? Correct me if I am wrong. I'm here to learn.
    It's probably a combination of poor volume of distribution/absorption and no way to enter the mammalian cell
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    Would mega dosing it help in any way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    no way to enter the mammalian cell
    Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    Would mega dosing it help in any way?
    Doesn't appear so
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob112

    Doesn't appear so
    Well shoot I have two bottles of it collecting dust. I think I'm just gonna take like a gram of it a day and just see if I notice anything.
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    I ran lg sciences version for what seemed liked forever with zero noticeable results....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    I ran lg sciences version for what seemed liked forever with zero noticeable results....
    I had a sponsored log and can agree with this.
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    Don't waste your money on this product. ..I ran it twice thanks to a friend discarding a few bottles my way. Noticed zero results
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    This?



    It's just an EAA product with underdosed extras

    Edit: Oops, guess we can't link there
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    Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    Would mega dosing it help in any way?
    I mega dosed this stuff on several occasions. It has never done a thing for me. It's only effective via injection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This?



    It's just an EAA product with underdosed extras

    Edit: Oops, guess we can't link there
    Yep, this very product. It has great reviews and feedback all over the net.
    The recovery with this product is better than any product that I have every encountered and I have tried many over my 25 years of lifting. After 1 week on it, many feel like they can train the same body part daily. It was formulated by Rob Regish (Mixelflick), author of "The blueprint".

    By the way, I am not a rep and have zero interests in this product. Just standing up for a great product and an even better guy(Rob).
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    Rob is probably the one and only person I know of the supports this product orally and even he says it has to be used properly to be effective. I have not tried his program but I have read reviews on those who have. From what I have read it sometimes helps with recovery but very little in the way of muscle mass. I think oral bioavilability is limited. The Russians injected the stuff. I have read reviews from professional bber's that have injected and they seem to have very good results primarily the areas of recovery and strength. Some like it for pre-contest prep also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Rob is probably the one and only person I know of the supports this product orally and even he says it has to be used properly to be effective. I have not tried his program but I have read reviews on those who have. From what I have read it sometimes helps with recovery but very little in the way of muscle mass. I think oral bioavilability is limited. The Russians injected the stuff. I have read reviews from professional bber's that have injected and they seem to have very good results primarily the areas of recovery and strength. Some like it for pre-contest prep also.
    I've used in a cut. The best supplement I've tried so far. Even in caloric deficit, still adding weight to the bar. Expensive tough
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This?



    It's just an EAA product with underdosed ex

    Edit: Oops, guess we can't link there

    You have to take 15 pills on workout days, so not so underdosed I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amarula View Post
    I've used in a cut. The best supplement I've tried so far. Even in caloric deficit, still adding weight to the bar. Expensive tough
    What brand did you use and how did you dose it? This stuff has a host of health benefits. I would love to see it actually work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    What brand did you use and how did you dose it? This stuff has a host of health benefits. I would love to see it actually work.
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    I've really only seen Mass hyped on SHR and some on Predator.

    Always seemed too expensive for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    I've really only seen Mass hyped on SHR and some on Predator.

    Always seemed too expensive for me.
    I think many people don't try it excatly because it's expensive. But it really works. It's not the wonder pill but you feel the effects
  

  
 

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