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    Any nitrates useful for football (soccer)?

    I was going to play with cbol but have enhanced or could use condense...

    Just something simple and low stim so its easy on the heart but will help with strength endurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Any nitrates useful for football (soccer)?

    I was going to play with cbol but have enhanced or could use condense...

    Just something simple and low stim so its easy on the heart but will help with strength endurance.
    Subbed. I'd also be interested to know what to use
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    Any nitrate will do, and yes it would be useful. Any of the 3 choices you mentioned will work
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Any nitrate will do, and yes it would be useful. Any of the 3 choices you mentioned will work
    Ahh good.

    Was interested to see if any nitrate was "superior"
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Ahh good.

    Was interested to see if any nitrate was "superior"
    The net effect from all nitrate salts will be the same (not sure if nitratene is a salt) - improved aerobic and anaerobic performance
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Any nitrates useful for football (soccer)?

    I was going to play with cbol but have enhanced or could use condense...

    Just something simple and low stim so its easy on the heart but will help with strength endurance.
    Enhanced is definitely useful, I discovered with our win today, thank you
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    Max Pump would be a great choice also. I've noticed a significant increase in endurance with extended use. It also contains no stimulants that might get you jittery during game time. Amazing product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Max Pump would be a great choice also. I've noticed a significant increase in endurance with extended use. It also contains no stimulants that might get you jittery during game time. Amazing product.
    I tested mp for you guys and agree its awesome. I just wanted to know if my sport warrants their usage.
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    The most pertinent factor is likely will be the percentage of nitrates. i.e. 1g of leucine nitrate will have a different nitrate content than 1g of arginine nitrate or potassium nitrate.

    For most, the molecule it is attached to will be in too low a dose to do anything on it's own i.e. leucine nitrate won't supply the efficacious studied dose to spike muscle protein synthesis and betaine nitrate will not contain enough betaine for replicate an efficacious dose either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    The most pertinent factor is likely will be the percentage of nitrates. i.e. 1g of leucine nitrate will have a different nitrate content than 1g of arginine nitrate or potassium nitrate.

    For most, the molecule it is attached to will be in too low a dose to do anything on it's own i.e. leucine nitrate won't supply the efficacious studied dose to spike muscle protein synthesis and betaine nitrate will not contain enough betaine for replicate an efficacious dose either.
    So what would you suggest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    So what would you suggest?
    For a product on the whole it would depend on what else you want in it i.e. stim/non stim etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post

    For a product on the whole it would depend on what else you want in it i.e. stim/non stim etc.
    Slight stim.
    Caffiene is ergogenic at 200mg max pre football.
    More than is counter productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Slight stim.
    Caffiene is ergogenic at 200mg max pre football.
    More than is counter productive.
    More caffeine is not necessarily detrimental, it depends on weight. For example;

    5mg per kg on repeated running times http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18799995
    6mg per kg http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18997650
    6mg per kg during endurance cycling (two hour steady state) http://jap.physiology.org/content/93/3/990.abstract
    Dose response curve http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18458357
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    I mean for me that is.

    If I took enahnced at 1.5 scoops, all that focus, I would break legs hahah
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