Phosphatidic acid for strength and size

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by flightposite View Post
    Looks like biotest is planing a release.
    Yeah, Biotest is bringing it out this month. At probably only 200 dollar markup!
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce

    Yeah, Biotest is bringing it out this month. At probably only 200 dollar markup!
    Lmao. Yeah for auto ship only hahaha
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  3. lol $65 for 20 servings...

    anyone take the plunge?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mmats View Post
    lol $65 for 20 servings...

    anyone take the plunge?
    I haven't read the article yet but I'm sure it's a micro encapsulated patent pending liquicap delivery system designed to immediately deliver phosphatic acid right to the muscles. And I'm sure some really strong guys have mentioned that it has dropped bodyfat and/or increased muscle mass at a rate they never thought was possible.

    I hate the way they market everything, but in a way I tip my hat to them as misleading genuises. A lot of the people on that site lick up everything they say as gospel. Many people on that site would buy it if it was 20 servings for 125 dollars.
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  5. The ingredient is really expensive FWIW and it looks like T-Nation is licensing it from Chemi-Nutra.
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  6. Would really love to take the plunge is my funds would allow me..

  7. Got a discount so bought 3 bottles. Will be stacking with Analyzed Supplements Leucine tabs. Let the fun begin...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Got a discount so bought 3 bottles. Will be stacking with Analyzed Supplements Leucine tabs. Let the fun begin...
    You should run a log (or post link if you already are)

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mmats View Post
    lol $65 for 20 servings...

    anyone take the plunge?
    Test p is like $10 a vial, $30 at the most. What ever happened to supplements that worked? M1T was laced with Dbol at one point and it was cheap.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Got a discount so bought 3 bottles. Will be stacking with Analyzed Supplements Leucine tabs. Let the fun begin...
    Would definitely like your feedback. T-nation has so many people who won't talk negatively about them no matter what. Really hope you have a good run. Let us know.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Would definitely like your feedback. T-nation has so many people who won't talk negatively about them no matter what. Really hope you have a good run. Let us know.
    It's not that dissimilar to one of the companies on this board...no offense to them, but they pretty much can do no wrong no matter what. Tnation is also highly, highly moderated as well so we don't even get to see the negative. I'm eager to see feedback on this.

  12. I probably won't do a log because I'd be too lazy at doing it. But I will report back what I experience when I can. I figured Leucine tabs would be ideal to stack with this. The human study and research is the reason why I decided to take the plunge.

  13. PA + ARA maybe?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    PA + ARA maybe?
    Actually in the middle of an X-Factor run right now. Might just stack them both but I might not know just how effective PA is if I do.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Actually in the middle of an X-Factor run right now. Might just stack them both but I might not know just how effective PA is if I do.
    On second thought, maybe it wouldn't be good. Different MOA's supporting the same function wouldn't theoretically synergize.

  16. Got my 3 bottles of Micro-PA delivered today but still have about 2/3 left of my last bottle of X-Factor so I'll probably just wait to finish my run of ArA and then start the MicroPA.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Would definitely like your feedback. T-nation has so many people who won't talk negatively about them no matter what. Really hope you have a good run. Let us know.
    They banned me from their site for making a light hearted joke about the price of the Indigo s***

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    They banned me from their site for making a light hearted joke about the price of the Indigo s***
    not surprising. They don't really allow anyone to talk about their products in a negative manner on the site. They will either delete it or ban individuals. T-nation.com has some good and informative forums....as long as you aren't talking negatively about a Biotest product in ANY of them!
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  19. Anyone had any decent results from this yet??

  20. The product just came out a couple of weeks ago. You couldn't really make any anecdotal claims at all about it yet.

    The study results were promising and in trained athletes though, so it should be good to go.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    On second thought, maybe it wouldn't be good. Different MOA's supporting the same function wouldn't theoretically synergize.
    Why wouldn't they synergize? PA supposedly amplifies mTOR signalling whilst ArA helps induce increased inflammatory response from training which leads to a higher demand for repair/protein synthesis. It would seem to me that the two theoretically does not compete and may be complementary. Unless the two competes for absorption into the cells or something.

  22. I heard creatine is good to take with this. So my cycle will start next week. Micro-PA, Leucine tabs from Analyzed Supps and Creatine.

    I guess you could stack this with ArA but I wouldn't get a good read on how Micro-PA is working when taking it with X-Factor.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    I heard creatine is good to take with this. So my cycle will start next week. Micro-PA, Leucine tabs from Analyzed Supps and Creatine.

    I guess you could stack this with ArA but I wouldn't get a good read on how Micro-PA is working when taking it with X-Factor.
    Supposedly helps with creatine absorption, but I would think that it would do little to nothing if you are already saturated.
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