cutting with LG mmv2
- 03-31-2008, 11:43 AM
cutting with LG mmv2
Hey everybody! I was lucky enough to be chosen by LG to run a log of MMV2, and am currently leaning towards 3 a day for 60 days. I am currently in a contest at my gym to see who can lose the most BF% in a 12 week span. I used the two weeks before the contest to eat as bad as possible before the contest to add a little extra fat, but it worked a little too well, lol. I went from 268-294 in 15 days
I am using MMV2 to help cut, and also to try to retain as much strength and size as possible.
right now I am
22% BF% (as of 2 weeks ago at 294)
my goal is to be 250-260 at ~15% ten weeks from now. I realize this is ambitious, but I think I can at least get close, as my schedule is pretty flexible right now and I am very motivated. My diet plan is as follows:
weeks 1-4: 150-200C/350P/175F
weeks 4-8: 100C/350P/175F
Weeks 8-12: ~50C/350P/175F
I am also restricting my carbs a good bit on my off days.
I'll include my workouts in this log pretty much every time I go to the gym. my basic setup is this:
Monday:Chest, shoulders, Tris 2 exercises each, rest pause sets
Tuesday: Back, biceps, traps 2 exercises each, rest pause sets. I have also recently added in leg press on tuesdays in a pyramid type dropset at the end of my workout to make up for slacking on legs my first 2 years of training or so.
Thursday: Strength day- usually rack deads, bench, standing military press, heavy shrugs, possibly cleans in 4 sets of 3-5
I also throw in some core work 2-3 days a week, not that you could really tell at my current level of BF. I am going to be doing cardio 5-6 times a week, usually after workouts or first thing in the AM on my off days.
Other supps currently: Multi/Vit. C/Vit. E, fish oil, NP green Tea, primaforce liquid sesamin, core abc/creatine, and lipidfx, which is mainly TTA for those who aren't familiar. All of the aforementioned except lipidfx are pretty much staples for me.
I have used 1t/4ad trans back in the day with m1t/mdht, superdrol, and max lmg/pheraplex, along with two trips to the dark side. kinda depressing to read how much of that i've taken and see where I am at now, which is why I've adopted a new approach with an emphasis on diet/training and paying much more attention to the cost/benefit ratio of what I put in my body, which is why I like the new formulations that eric from LG is putting out.
I will put up pictures sometime this week, my regular computer crashed last week and I am getting it fixed tomorrow hopefully, but for now I am posting on my old laptop with only 1/3 of a visible screen due to dropping it a long time ago. So be sure to follow along, once my computer is back in full force, my updates will be much longer and in depth
- 03-31-2008, 11:51 AM
- 03-31-2008, 12:24 PM
Im in as well! Good luck brosif!E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
03-31-2008, 12:31 PM
I'm hoping to loose around the same %, but for me its less poundage
04-01-2008, 12:57 AM
alright, so here's the rundown for my workout today:
today was kinda disappointing, my ipod was connected to my computer when it crashed the other day and it is now dead and songless for some reason, I have a hard time getting my full intensity and concentration going without it, but I made it work. here was the workout, all these exercises are done rest pause with about 10-15 seconds between each new "set"(except db bench), and anywhere from 3-5 min between each exercise. since i train heavy for strength on thursdays, i place an emphasis on doing relatively controlled reps on both the positive and negative
db Bench: 115s x 12, 9, 5. i take about 30 seconds between each for this exercise, as it is exhausting setting these down and picking them back up each time. there's gotta be a better way, but i prefer working out alone on my restpause days and also prefer dbs for the feel and contraction
smith shoulder press: 180 (+machine) x 13, 8, 4. I know people generally don't like the smith, but I really like it for my style of training, and don't really get any joint issues from it. i have no clue how much it weighs without any plates on it though
smith incline press: 180 (+machine)x 14, 10, 5. again, I really like the smith for the incline. it allows me to go slow and controlled, yet I can still go relatively heavy after the first few heavy exercises.
overhead db tri extension, one hand: 40sx 15, 10, 6. to keep the pace and intensity of my workouts up, I usually do these with one hand then immediately switch to the other right after.
leaning forward db laterals: 50sx 10, 8, 6. I dunno what these are actually called, but you probably know what I am talking about. I switch back and forth week to week between this and seated db side laterals.
rope pushdown- 130x 14, 10, 6.
after all this, I do about 5-10 min worth of stretching, usually the DC recommended stretches and some stuff for my right rotator cuff, thats been slightly nagging for a few years. I then proceded to do 30 min of treadmill, 3.6 mph at the 7.0 incline. I will switch back and forth between this, elliptical, possibly some jump rope, etc
my meals for the day were slightly slacking, as I took a 5 hour or so nap in the afternoon because I had to get up early this morning to finish a project that was due for my class this morning.it looked like this:
meal 1: 40 grams whey in milk with a scoop of pb and post bran flakes
meal 2: egg beaters omelette (sp?) with tomato, red peppers, and turkey
meal 3 (prewo): muscle milk with a scoop of natty pb. i realize most people either hate muscle milk or use it pre bed, but i actually like using it prewo, as i hate working out on an empty stomach and also hate working out while full, so...conundrum. as i cut calories further in, this will probably switch to whey and coconut oil
I fill up a 32 oz bottle with 2 scoops core abc, creatine, and some extra taurine for cramping and drink that during my workout, and fill it up repeatedly. I will probably be adding in a scoop of cold fusion prewo later on.
This was followed by 40g whey again in milk on the way home.
meal 4: approx 3/4 lb. lean beef with minimal sloppy joe sauce for flavor, wrapped up in two flatout wraps. I really like these wraps as they are around 17 g carbs with 8 being fiber, I try to keep fiber at around 50 g a day
meal 5: 3 grilled chicken breasts
meal 6 will be before bed, 40 gr whey again with natty pb
as i said before, i usually get in another whole food meal and my first meal is usually whole food as well, I don't like relying on shakes so much as it leaves me hungry and I am very susceptible to late night binging, which is part of why I have consistently had a decent amount of bodyfat. so far I have been doing a good job of not doing that for the last few weeks...hope I can keep it up. only thing to really add to this is i am at about a gallon and a half or so of water a day, and increase this a little any time i start to feel cramping from the lipidfx. I was originally going to go with lipidfx for 8-10 weeks, but TTA just sucks the life out of me and makes me sore, so I will do 40 days and then probably work in thyrotabs, again using the MMV2 to help retain size and strength. I have a tendency to lose strength any time I cut calories, so I think I can give MMV2 a good test. So far, I have only noticed a little trouble sleeping before bed last night because I made the mistake of taking it immediately pre-bed, along with some increased erections. Considering this is only the 2nd day, id imagine this is either the yohimbine or placebo. Will update again tomorrow after my workout, and thanks to everybody who is following along!
04-01-2008, 12:52 PM
subbed man Best of luck!
04-01-2008, 04:53 PM
04-01-2008, 07:11 PM
had a very good workout today, back and bis with leg press at the end
shoulder width reverse grip pulldowns: 180x12, 9, 5. These are performed with a hold for a second or so at the bottom
iso row- 135 per side x 10,8,6. i do this with both arms at once, i know a lotta people do 1 at a time
reverse flye machine/pec deck: 120x 15,10,6.
Behind the back BB shrugs: 225x12, 8,5.
Standing DB curls: 45sx10,8,6.
incline curls: 30sx12, 10, 6.
I then did the leg press in a pyramid style, starting at 2 plates a side and working up to 7 and then back down to 4 plates a side in sets of 6. I hit legs again on saturday as well
this was followed by stretching and 20 min on the elliptical.
I am still sweating even after showering and eating my pwo meal, although it was hotter in the gym than normal today
04-01-2008, 08:15 PM
Any noted aggression at all?
E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
04-02-2008, 02:08 AM
04-03-2008, 03:58 PM
just a quick update- Yesterday was my off day, no lifting or cardio. kept carbs to a minimum and protein high. I am still noticing some moderate, clean stimulation from the MMV2, but am not having any trouble sleeping. I will be heading to the gym soon, and update again tonight with my workout.
As a side note, I got a package in the mail today with another MMV2, a Receptor, a Psarm, and a formadrol!! very pleased, thank you very much LG. I think I am going to do a bottle at 3 a day and a bottle at 4 a day. I will probably incorporate the receptor in a week or so, so it's midcycle, unless LG thinks it'd be better to start it now
04-03-2008, 09:33 PM
definitely felt MMV2 kick in tonight at the gym! tonight I did my low rep/strength workout, and it went like this
Bench: 275x5, 295x5, 315x3 most I had gotten 315 recently was 2. my all time max was 5, which was on aas before around the same weight I am now
Rack DLs: 315x5, 405x5, 495x3 (ties personal best), 545x1 (most I have ever attempted), 315x5
Yeah, 495x3 is my all time best, which i did about a month ago before i started cutting back the cals. I had never gone above 495 before, but I felt good tonight so I went for it I really need some work on this exercise compared to my weight, but I have only really been doing it for less than 3 months.
Power Shrug: 315x6, 335x6,335x5 these aren't anything special, they are basically just shrugs performed fast to help with pulling upwards some. I usually don't go above 315, but 335 felt good tonight
Standing Military press: 185x4,185x4, 185x3 I am really not sure why I suck so bad at this lift. Maybe it's because it's at the end of my workout, or maybe because I have a nagging slight shoulder pain, I dunno. But nonetheless, this weight is up from the last few weeks
So basically, I got good aggression/intensity from this stuff tonight, and very pleased. Only noticeable side was a slight, bearable headache, but I get this a lot when I go really heavy anyways because I tend to not breathe enough. I played around with some of the old school PHs before I prob should have, but I did get a good grasp of some of their effects. I would rank it like this:
Avant Labs In-Rage
M5AA/MMV2 about the same
Note, this is strictly in terms of noted aggression, and mainly from my experience tonight. I will review this more as time goes on. The real test is in 6 weeks or so when my carbs are uber-low!
04-05-2008, 03:28 AM
didn't feel well today, so I took the day off. couldn't eat much either
hoping I will be ready to go for legs tomorrow
04-06-2008, 08:46 AM
I'm late as Hela, but subbed nevertheless Bro. I'm behind you all the way on this thing friend. Any questions, quips, or quotes just drop by my log "MMV2=Meister-Mayhem-Violence 2 All Log"!! You're gonna love this stuff man. I'm starting day 9 and getting ready to hit back and biceps. Check out my log after I update in a couple of hours. The best of luck to you friend!! THE THUNDERGOD
04-06-2008, 02:11 PM
ok, here is my workout for yesterday. I did legs, but kept the reps low on squats because my back was still a little sore from thursdays workout, and my form can tend to get a liittle ugly towards the end of sets. here's how it went:
squats: 315x5, 365x5, 405x3, 315x5
Seated calf raises:90x12, 115x12, 135x10, 1160x8, 180x8, 135x8, 115x 8, static hold for 30 seconds with 90 lbs.
I supersetted the calf raises with DB step ups, 50 lb Dumbbells x 3 sets of 8 with each leg
Leg Extensions: 90x10, 115x10, 135x10, 160x6, 135x6, static hold for 20 seconds with 115
I usually do straight legged deads, but as I mentioned before, my back was already sore from thursday
I followed this up with about 5 minutes of stretching, then did 20 minutes on the treadmill at 3.5 mph with a 5.0 incline
As I said before, the aggression from MMV2 is allowing me to get in an intense workout without stims, which is very nice, as I often have a hard time focusing in the gym
04-06-2008, 04:35 PM
Glad ur likin it bro! Yea the aggression is AMAZING!
E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
04-06-2008, 04:40 PM
yeah, like i said, in my experience so far it's tied with m5aa and only behind avant labs in-rage, which was outright incredible in itself but didn't really do anything for body comp. hopefully it'll get even better when I throw in some receptor
04-06-2008, 04:46 PM
04-06-2008, 04:48 PM
here's a picture I took yesterday after my workout. I will put up a few more after my workout tomorrow from different angles, so you can get a good gauge of my progress in body comp along with lifts. as you can see, got a lot of fat to lose
04-07-2008, 02:39 PM
to update, I just added in receptor today as well. will update tonight after my push workout
04-07-2008, 10:32 PM
alright guys, here was tonight's workout.
db bench: 115sx15, 9, 3
Smith Shoulder press: 180x11, 8, 4
I have switched from smith incline to hammer incline for my 2nd chest exercise. I like hammer better for the feel and it is also a better fit for my training style
Hammer incline: 230x 12, 8, 3 with a 20 second hold on the last rep
Db overhead Tri extension: 40x 15, 12, 6
seated DB lateral: 25sx 15, 12, 8
Tricep Pulldown: dropset from 50 lbs. down to 20 lbs.
I also finished with pushups to failure, which after this workout was only 21, lol
Capped it off with stretching and then half hour on the treadmill, 30 mins at 7.0 incline, 3.6 mph
haven't used any stims preworkout in a week now, which is not usual for me
04-08-2008, 06:55 AM
04-08-2008, 02:10 PM
04-10-2008, 05:37 PM
04-10-2008, 08:07 PM
update: did 45 min of cardio in the AM yesterday
went to workout tonight, did my warm up sets on my rack deadlifts and started feeling kinda dizzy and lightheaded. tried to switch to my military press to see if it would get any better...didn't work. I don't know what was wrong with me tonight, I have never had a problem getting going once im in the gym. I had a pretty open schedule today and I slept a good 10-11 hours, which I haven't done in awhile, I think it was from that. Gonna get to bed early tonight and get up early and get a good workout in, and then have my scheduled cheat meal post workout...very happy, haven't had one in 3 or 4 weeks
04-11-2008, 11:36 AM
alright, i have had insomnia the last few days, but I still managed to get in a great workout this morning. here's how it went:
bench: 275x6, 295x6, 315x3, 325x1
Rack Deads: 405x5, 495x5, 515x2, 455x5
Power Shrugs: 315x6, 315x6, 315x6
Standing Military: 185x5, 185x4, 175x5
Followed this up with 30 min cardio on the elliptical and did the sit up machine in between sets, I have been slacking on my core work lately. Does anyone else ever notice that sit up/crunch machines where you sit down tend to get used as chairs by old people?
Followed this up with my scheduled cheat meal, went to golden corral with a couple friends. Proceded to throw it back up when I got back home Nonetheless, I figured I would have a cheat meal as my carbs are being cut from 200 down to 100 for the next month starting tomorrow. I am only down about 12 lbs. so far (although I am holding water from the TTA), so hopefully cutting it back will help speed things up
04-11-2008, 11:38 AM
04-11-2008, 05:42 PM
to anyone that has used or is using this stuff, have you noticed any sides? I have been getting a few nosebleeds the last few days and I dunno if it's from the MMV2 or just because allergy season has started. I have gotten nosebleeds from BP increase from PHs before. It seemed to start a few days after I added in receptor
04-11-2008, 06:27 PM
04-11-2008, 06:54 PM
no, haven't noticed anything, haven't checked my bp in a couple weeks tho. i'll check tomorrow
04-12-2008, 04:26 AM
Checked my blood pressure just last week. And it was AFTER a 30 minute walk. It was 132 over 77!!! That's really good for my age and size. 43 years old and 265 lbs. So, I don't think it's the MMV2. But keep a close check on your BP dude!! Be safe!! THE THUNDERGOD
04-12-2008, 06:12 AM
front loading hawthorne berries works good for keeping bp at normal range while on cycle, probably to late to start now, but something to think about next time.
04-13-2008, 10:11 PM
thanks for all the replies guys. My high BP symptoms only lasted a few days, so I dunno if it was stress or what. Been sleeping fine the last few nights and no more nosebleeds (despite some picking). I have upped it to 2 MMV2 first thing in the AM and 2 more preworkout, this is making it easier for me to sleep at night. I did cardio in the AM yesterday and legs today, here's how it went:
Squats: 315x5, 365x5, 405x5, 315x5
I have been kinda stagnant on squats lately, so I will probably switch to a 20 rep set next week and go up 10 lbs. every week.
Straight legged deads: I do these as a drop set, with 4 25 lbers on each side and take one off after each set of 8
Standing smith calf raises: did a bunch of sets of these from 90 lbs. up to 270
DB Step ups: 50 lbs. x 8 for 3 sets
finished this with 20 min of cardio on the treadmill, with 3.5 minutes of 3.5 mph at a 5.0 incline and then 1.5 minutes of 6.5 mph at 0 incline. gonna add this in some postworkout
04-14-2008, 05:21 AM
04-14-2008, 07:56 AM
I need to regularize my cardio, get into some pattern of what days I do it, and do it consistently
04-16-2008, 02:31 AM
I was in a hurry today to get my workout in before work, so I went drop sets on everything except DB press
DB press: 120s x 14, 7, 3
Smith Shoulder Press: 190x6, 170x8, 160x8
Hammer Incline: 240x8, 190x8, 140x8
Overhead Tricep extension: 45sx8, 40sx8, 35sx8, 30sx8
Leaning side lateral: 50sx10, 45sx10, 40sx10, 35sx10, 30sx10
Rope Pushdown: 130x8, 120x8, 110x7, 100x6, 90x5, 80x5
Then stretched. No cardio today since I was in a hurry, today was the first day in about 6 days when I didn't do it. i haven't weighed myself lately, i will tomorrow. In about a week and a half I am going to be off the TTA, so that should make me lose another 5-10 lbs. of water. I believe I will also be getting my bodyfat measured again in the next couple weeks. still no more of the high BP symptoms, so I really don't think it was anything I am taking, so the only sides I am really seeing is occasional acne, which I get once in awhile anyways. Strength is climbing still with carbs down, which has never happened for me before.
04-16-2008, 06:40 AM
I concur Warnerve, I also have never been able to remain so strong, while dieting so strictly. My carbs are way low right now. Yet, I feel strong and energetic. MMV2 rocks!!
04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
04-16-2008, 02:17 PM
I am feeling good, and below 10mm on the bodyfat calipers! not the most impressive thing in some ways (means about 13-14%) but at the beginning of this log at about the same weight (within a lb) I was calipering in the 11-12mm (15-16%)range
Definitely enjoying the mmv2!
04-16-2008, 02:25 PM
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