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  1.  03-13-2008  03:32 PM
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    Havoc Non-log Notepad for my cycle.


    i started havoc on monday(3/10/08) my havoc dosage is going to be doses this way
    20/30/30/40

    i have some Cycle support il be dosing that at 1 scoop till it runs out(like in 3 days) but im getting more on monday
    mean while ill also be dosing

    this is what im dosing plus the 1 scoop of cycle support
    1575mg of hawtornberryes
    1.6g nac
    2 caps Gut Health
    1.2g Milk thistle
    12g Fish oil
    120mg Coq 10
    when i get the cycle support im goign to dose it at 2 scoop and use it along with gut healh and fish oil


    for pct

    Toremifene
    week 1 120mg 3days 90mg 4 days
    week 2 60mg
    week 3 60mg
    week 4 30mg

    Alri Restore @ 3 caps ED

    Activate Extreme @ 6 Caps ED

    DTH @ 4 Caps ED

    Gut Health @ 2-3 Caps (since im going to be eating more to keep the gains)



    and the support supps mention on above.

    im going to order some other stuff soon like taurine and other things, i was going to get some creatine but since i got Andr0G3n. . . and since it has creatine i might save 12 dlls and use that intead of getting 1 k of mono at NP or i might jusrt order mono i havent decited yet.
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    my mood has been up on this short time, i feel great. Dunno if its a placebo effect but i feel stronger. im cleaning up my diet. its kind of protein/complex carb high.



    Edit : i forgot to add that im 194 lbs(the day i started havoc) and 5'8"



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    fifth day of havoc, mood have been great, i can get irritated fast but then i get back to normal lol

    i got on the scale today and i was a lil bit over 198. It seems weird since im eating less or around maintenance calories and i was 194 on monday when i started

    breakfast this last few days
    i have had alsmot the same diet for this last few days

    i have either steamed chicken or beef with veggies for breakfast

    3 hrs later around 12pm protein shake

    at around 2 pm 284g of tuna with whole wheat crackers

    4pm another 142g of tuna with whole wheat crackers

    between 6-7pm protein shake

    and then after workout a whole wheat bread sandwich with 5 slices of ham some reduce fat mayo, mustard , 2% sharp cheese as a side 1/2 cup cottage cheese, if i feel really drained from the workout i make 2 sandwiches and add a 24oz of 2% milk.

    im going to keep adjusting my diet
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    Hope it goes well for you!

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    no AX products?

    j/k, bro!

    Looks like a good cycle! It seems to me that 20mgs is almost a waste of time. I usually do 20mgs for like 2 or 3 days and then kick it up to 30. just my $.02

    GOOD LUCK, Z!

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    Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Hope it goes well for you!
    thnaks i been looking forward to this cycle from sometime




    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    no AX products?

    j/k, bro!

    Looks like a good cycle! It seems to me that 20mgs is almost a waste of time. I usually do 20mgs for like 2 or 3 days and then kick it up to 30. just my $.02

    GOOD LUCK, Z!
    lol i was going to get 2 bottles of the new mass fx and some retain2, fot PCT but money got tight.

    i might use them for pct for another pre-olympia havoc cycle

  6.  03-15-2008  12:29 PM
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    I've never done an Epi cycle, but it sounds fun bro.

    Good Luck. I will be following.

  7.  03-16-2008  05:43 PM
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    Originally Posted by stl123 View Post
    I've never done an Epi cycle, but it sounds fun bro.

    Good Luck. I will be following.
    thanks bro.




    Tomorrow i go up to 30mg

    i still havent decided how to split the dosage.

    been thinking 1 @ around 11am
    1 @ 3pm
    1 @ 7:30pm (prework out)

    or

    1@ 9 am as soon i wake up
    1 @ 7:30 pm (preworkout)
    1 @ 9:30pm (postworkout)

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    i like the second option (morning, pre, and post)

  9.  03-16-2008  08:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i like the second option (morning, pre, and post)
    then it would be mace way

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    Zombie.

    How are you liking the Epi so far?

    Have you noticed any sides?

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    Originally Posted by stl123 View Post
    Zombie.

    How are you liking the Epi so far?

    Have you noticed any sides?

    im loving havoc. today is my second day at 30mg , i like how it makes me feel, im in a really good mood all day but i also have noticed that i get pissed faster. other than that its been great. No headaches, no high bp, no cramps, no back pumps, i do have a oily face thats about it.

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    second day at 30 mg i loved it it was an upper body day it was a great i got on the scale and i was 200 lbs, i have noticed my mid section to get thighter,

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    Zombies rampage to Havoc beastdom!!

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    Cycle support by A.I?? Are you taking that during your cycle or as a PCT?

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    Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Zombies rampage to Havoc beastdom!!
    i cant belive i have gained 6 pounds in just 8 days also taking in consideration that i havent been eating alot of calories, with superdrol i started gaining on my 3rd week and during PCT

    Originally Posted by AlexParty View Post
    Cycle support by A.I?? Are you taking that during your cycle or as a PCT?
    yep im taking it during cycle and im going to take it for PCT also.

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    Are you prone to MPB? I have read some logs that say Epi products are not so kind on the hairline. Let me know if you notice anything like that on cycle. That is the only thing that has kept me from running it. I started a Trenadrol cycle and I notice halfway through that my hair was starting to thin out so I cut it short.

    Sounds like its going really well for ya. I'm following 3 Epi logs right now and everyone is seeing great results. I might have to pick some up.

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    Originally Posted by stl123 View Post
    Are you prone to MPB? I have read some logs that say Epi products are not so kind on the hairline. Let me know if you notice anything like that on cycle. That is the only thing that has kept me from running it. I started a Trenadrol cycle and I notice halfway through that my hair was starting to thin out so I cut it short.

    Sounds like its going really well for ya. I'm following 3 Epi logs right now and everyone is seeing great results. I might have to pick some up.
    im prone to MPB, my dad is bald, well not completely. and since i did my first SD cycle my hairline got a lil bit back and some hair thinned, i havent noticed more shreading than usual but its one of my concerns also im espending like 5 minutes before taking a shower and after just looking at my hair lol

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    Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    im espending like 5 minutes before taking a shower and after just looking at my hair lol
    That's funny. Ever since the whole trenadrol fiasco I do the exact samething. I check everytime I get out of the shower to make sure the water pressure from the shower head didn't blow a patch of hair off my head (it never has). Thankfully it seems to have slowed down or maybe even stopped shedding, although the damage has already been done. My dad has been almost bald as long as I can remember so I guess there is no fighting it. I just have to except the fact that one day I WILL be bald.

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    3rd day @ 30mg i decided to make a lil experiment i added 50mg of DHEA to each dose, i had the worst Back Pumps i ever had. im thinking its the DHEA so im stoping taking it and then add 50 mg just preworkout or post workout. other than that i been feeling great

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    Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    3rd day @ 30mg i decided to make a lil experiment i added 50mg of DHEA to each dose, i had the worst Back Pumps i ever had. im thinking its the DHEA so im stoping taking it and then add 50 mg just preworkout or post workout. other than that i been feeling great
    I think the dhea is a great idea.

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