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    DaveGabe showin' off his Grand Bolas, aka DTH!!




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    Ok well, I'll be running two bottles of DTH. Primary Goal is mass, secondary is strength. This thread was inspired by a debate Chuck had over at AM with Designer Supps, that DTH is better than ActX. I just recently ran two bottles of ActX a month or two ago, so this is going to be in direct comparison. I will log the benefits, experience, side effects, and workouts here.

    I would like to thank Chuck for the opportunity, and much respect goes out to him for standing by his product and truly putting it to the test.

    My split is going to be the same as my split when I used ActX. It's a 5 day split I've made up, moderate frequency, heavy weights, and sufficient rest.

    Monday - Chest/Tri
    Tuesday - Back/Bi
    Wednesday - Legs
    Thursday - Off
    Friday - Chest/Back
    Saturday - Legs

    So the major muscle groups are hit twice a week, and smaller groups just once.

    No other additional supplements are going to be added. Measurements will be taken tomorrow. I'll also have some pics up because I need them for my recomp contest anyway.

    This should be an interesting log, so tomorrow is my first day of supplementing. Starting out @ 3 tabs for the first 5 days.

    Any critiques/advice feel free to throw them at me.

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    Chest/Back

    Incline DB
    • 85 x 10
    • 90 x 6
    • 85 x 6


    Pullups
    • BW x 13
    • BW x 6


    Decline BB
    • 135 x 10
    • 185 x 6
    • 185 x 6
    • 185 x 6


    T-Bar
    • 135 x 10
    • 180 x 8
    • 135 x 12

    The weight wasn't all that heavy tonight, but my negatives were ridiculous. Some were over 4-5 seconds on the last reps. Had a great workout, muscles felt full and pumped. Tomorrow, as I said, I'll start the DTH @ 3 tabs.

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    Just took my first tab with 17oz. of water, going to have breakfast in about 15 minutes.

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    Thanks for doing this straight up comparison dave. Any chance you could post a link to your Activate Xtreme log? I searched your post history and couldn't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Thanks for doing this straight up comparison dave. Any chance you could post a link to your Activate Xtreme log? I searched your post history and couldn't find it.
    I didn't log it, but i did write a review at bb.com.

    Was during my first semester of college, and had soem RL stuff going on. Wasn't able to do any sort of journal/logs unfortunately.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5857661

    That's the review. I can just copy/paste if it the bb.com link doesnt work.

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    great start Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by caveman View Post
    great start Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    I didn't log it, but i did write a review at bb.com.

    Was during my first semester of college, and had soem RL stuff going on. Wasn't able to do any sort of journal/logs unfortunately.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5857661

    That's the review. I can just copy/paste if it the bb.com link doesnt work.
    (sub) you can do is quote the bb.com post, then cut it and past it over here, that works also.

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    should be interesting. nice workout split too btw, now you've got me considering adding a back/chest day
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    I didnt see shoulders mentioned. Do you just get all the work from your back and chest movements? Split looks good and i like the training most def.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    should be interesting. nice workout split too btw, now you've got me considering adding a back/chest day
    Yeah I love it. Pretty simple, but I'm only 19 years old. I don't need some complex split, with the right diet, intense heavy training, the results will come. So this split does me well.


    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I didnt see shoulders mentioned. Do you just get all the work from your back and chest movements? Split looks good and i like the training most def.
    Sorry, shoulders are hit on Leg day. Usually push-press and then some isolation.

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    Review of ActX


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    This is my one month review of ActivaTe Xtreme, I dosed it at 5 caps/day at 2-2-1 dosing. I began my second bottle December 1st so I can finish right before 2008. I know the ideal waiting time is 2 weeks between bottles, but I have some goals that I set in January that I am determined to hit before the end of the year.

    Cost

    While cost is not always what should determine what supplements you want to purchase, it does effect the majority of us. In the case of ActivaTe Xtreme, I would not mind buying bottle after bottle solely because as a 19 year old, it's one of the few supplements aside from staples I'm willing to tamper with.

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    My sleep has definitely improved overall. I can't compare this to the original ActivaTe'x effects on sleep, but I definitely noticed a deeper sleep. I was actually able to remember some dreams, which is unusual for me. Not sure if it is a correct assumption but I'm assuming that I must have been reaching a deeper REM to remember dreams, so that was definitely a nice benefit.

    Vascularity/Pumps/Fullness

    Pumps seemed to increase a bit, however even more significantly I was feeling much more vascular/full throughout the days not just in the gym. Everything seemed nice and tight from morning to night, and saw some nice improvements in the vascularity department as well.

    Strength

    This is where this product shined. I had been hitting a major bench plataeu (yes I know, pathetic at 19 years old). Whether this product helped me bust through it via placebo or genuine effectiveness I'm not complaining. Gained at least 2-3 reps on all my major exercises with the same weight, and in the lower rep ranges the weight went up around 5-8lbs in the big three.

    Side Effects

    Another area where this product shined....absolutely no side effects to speak of. Libido was up (not that I need it), had some acne(not much), but who's to say that's not because of my age. With products like this, there is absolutely NO REASON for anyone under 21 to be tampering with anything hormonal.

    Overall

    I was xtremely please with this product, and through the 26 days @ 5 caps a day I was able to pack on a solid 4lbs of muscle, and to be honest I've actually noticed some leaning-out in my abs area. I can't say enough about this product, and I think DS really hit it big with this one. DS continues to strive on innovation, and this is just another example of us consumers reaping the benefits. I did take measurements at the beginning of the first bottle, but I am going to wait till the end of the second to show improvements.

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    • Sleep - 8/10
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    Ok well here's the final increase in measurements after completing the second bottle of AX. I would like to note that the measurements today have been taken after not having lifted for 5 days, and I believe the measurements taken 2 months ago were a day after. I do feel that these are truer "cold" measurements. However, I'm still decently pleased with the increases.


    • Right Calf : +0.25''
    • Left Calf : +0.25''
    • Waist : +0.5''
    • Left Bicep : +0.25''
    • Right Bicep : +0.25''
    • Right Forearm : +0.0
    • Left Forearm: +0.0
    • Chest : +0.75''
    • Right Quad : +0.5''
    • Left Quad : +0.5''

    Overall, the increase in chest and quad was awesome. Strength is higher than ever, and I was able to hit all my goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Yeah I love it. Pretty simple, but I'm only 19 years old. I don't need some complex split, with the right diet, intense heavy training, the results will come. So this split does me well.




    Sorry, shoulders are hit on Leg day. Usually push-press and then some isolation.

    Oh ok, i didnt know was all. Dont think im trying to bust ur chops lol. I like the split though and funny enough is i did back twice this week.
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    subbed. i'm doing two bottles of dthc myself right now.

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    chuck picked a good one to do this, perfect choice. good luck,dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Oh ok, i didnt know was all. Dont think im trying to bust ur chops lol. I like the split though and funny enough is i did back twice this week.

    Lol np, thanks for pointing it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    subbed. i'm doing two bottles of dthc myself right now.
    Sounds good man, best of luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    chuck picked a good one to do this, perfect choice. good luck,dave.
    Woohoo, appreciate the kind words bigt. Thanks for stoppin by man. This is going to get really interesting.

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    Day 2--DTH 1-1-1


    Still going with the 3 tabs, and tomorrow is the last day of that dosing scheme. Then I bump up to 5, probably something like 1-2-1-1.

    Will post my measurements in a few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Still going with the 3 tabs, and tomorrow is the last day of that dosing scheme. Then I bump up to 5, probably something like 1-2-1-1.
    5/day should be 2/2/1 there is a chart on the bottle. The tabs are time released so there is no reason to take it 4x a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    5/day should be 2/2/1 there is a chart on the bottle. The tabs are time released so there is no reason to take it 4x a day.
    what about 6 a day dosing? i've been doing 2/2/2.. oh and the effects seem to have kicked in around week 2-3 if you were wondering.. me likey

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    what about 6 a day dosing? i've been doing 2/2/2.. oh and the effects seem to have kicked in around week 2-3 if you were wondering.. me likey
    yeah thats fine, thats whats on the bottle. Some people are trying a 3/2/1 or 2/3/1 also which works with the 3 dose being one hour pre-workout.

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    Is 5 sufficient for me @ 195lbs?

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    Updated measurements, in inches:

    • Left Calf - 15.5
    • Right Calf - 15.5
    • Left Quad - 25
    • Right Quad - 25
    • Waist - 32.25
    • Chest - 41
    • Left Bicep - 15.75
    • Right Bicept - 15.5
    • Left Forearm - 13
    • Right Forearm - 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Is 5 sufficient for me @ 195lbs?
    It really doesnt matter what your body weight is, it matters on alot of other stuff like your nat. test levels, diet, etc...but that should be ok.

    Ive never done 6/day of any version of DT because even at 5 I get aggressive and the "snapiness" doesnt go away once its there for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    It really doesnt matter what your body weight is, it matters on alot of other stuff like your nat. test levels, diet, etc...but that should be ok.

    Ive never done 6/day of any version of DT because even at 5 I get aggressive and the "snapiness" doesnt go away once its there for a few days.
    Alright, I'll hit 5 up then.

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    Hitting the gym in about 30 minutes. Will be back around 7:30 with my update.

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    Day 3 - DTH 1-1-1


    Chest/Tri

    Flat BB
    • 205 x 10
    • 225 x 5
    • 245 x 5
    • 235 x 5


    Inc DB
    • 70 x 8
    • 70 x 5
    • 70 x 5


    Cable Flies
    • x 12
    • x 10
    • x 12


    CGBP
    • 155 x 5
    • 185 x 5
    • 205 x 5


    Dips
    • BW x 10
    • BW x 8


    Rope Pushdown
    60 x 10 dropset 50 x 8 dropset 40 x 6 dropset 30 x 10
    Overall, a great workout. Chest really blew up, semi-happy with the strength. I'd like to throw a few more reps on the 245 , get it up to 10 soon.

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    Day 4 - DTH 1-1-2-1


    Back/Bi

    Weighted Pullups
    • BW x 8
    • +25 x 8
    • +45 x 5
    • +25 x 5
    • BW x 9


    BB Rows
    • 185 x 8
    • 225 x 8
    • 225 x 8
    • 225 x 8


    DB Rows
    • 75 x 10
    • 75 x 10


    Trap Work

    BB Curls
    • 45 x 10
    • 65 x 8
    • 85 x 6
    • 45 x 5 wide grip, superset 45 x 5 inside grip

    Somehow my weight is down. Luckily I just got 10lbs more of whey protein, milk protein isolate is in as well. I'm down to 190lbs, but I feel this is due to my stomach problems lately. Everything has literally been running threw me. Things seem to be back to normal and I'm hoping to be 200 within the next 7 weeks.


    Thoughts on DTH: Despite my weight being down, and me being a little pissed about it I have to say this is one of the best workouts I've had in probably the last year. I was so focused, I was practically jogging to stack weights and get to the next exercise. No one got in my way, and I could feel the eyes of the scrawny people staring at me as I attacked each set.

    However, since it is only day 4 I will continue to watch for intense workouts and make sure it was not just a fluke. If things do keep up as they did today, I will have to attribute this to DTH and say it is one insane product.

    I noticed an impressive amount of vascularity as well, something else I will be monitoring as I journey further into the bottle.

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    this is the log ive been waiting for. someone my age taking DTH

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    Don't worry about the weight troubles..my weight seems to hate me but i still improve on the tape measurer and in the mirror, im sure you are doing the same. Workouts are looking great so far good luck as this continues
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNASTYII View Post
    this is the log ive been waiting for. someone my age taking DTH
    Sounds good man, thanks for poppin in. I have a feeling over the next 6-10 days this is going to get realllllll good.

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    Don't worry about the weight troubles..my weight seems to hate me but i still improve on the tape measurer and in the mirror, im sure you are doing the same. Workouts are looking great so far good luck as this continues
    Yea, you are very right. Nonetheless, despite weight not really being a priority in the grand scheme of things, it still manages to frustrate the sh1t out of me

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    nice job so far dave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post



    Yea, you are very right. Nonetheless, despite weight not really being a priority in the grand scheme of things, it still manages to frustrate the sh1t out of me
    O trust me it frustrates me too just trying to put things in a positive light
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    nice job so far dave...
    Thanks big man, once the weight comes on I, and DTH kicks in...I'm expecting big things!

    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    O trust me it frustrates me too just trying to put things in a positive light
    Alright, well glad to know I'm not alone in this boat...thought I was bulking solo for a while, a little scary:


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    i wonder if that pic is real? that would be some scary ass sh1t!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    i wonder if that pic is real? that would be some scary ass sh1t!!!
    If not, that is some legit photoshop. The reflection of the kayak, and the way the fin comes out of water makes it hard for me to believe it's fake.



    Anyways, whats up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    i wonder if that pic is real? that would be some scary ass sh1t!!!
    the waves dont match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    If not, that is some legit photoshop. The reflection of the kayak, and the way the fin comes out of water makes it hard for me to believe it's fake.



    Anyways, whats up??
    egh, not much. just got done with my heavy deadlift/bi's day. that workout and my squat day workout take a lot out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfearl1 View Post
    egh, not much. just got done with my heavy deadlift/bi's day. that workout and my squat day workout take a lot out of me.
    Yeah I hear ya, but wouldn't miss one for the world

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