Summer Prep with IGF-2, Anabolic Pump, RPM and Extras

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  1. Thumbs up Great results bud!


    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Week 1-2 Review

    Measurments as of 3/15

    Weight: 209.2 (- 10.8)
    BF: est. 12.5-13% (-2%)
    Arms: R: 15 1/8in L: 15 1/4in
    Waist (1 in below navel at largest point): 37 1/4 in (-3/4 in)

    Overall I am pleased with th first two weeks of this cut. From a fat loss stand point I am coming along very nicely. Although it wasn't a huge drop in waist measurement as many know that is and will be the last place to see results so 3/4 lost already is awesome. I have really noticed the major effects of the 10 pound loss in my arms, lower quads, and chest. Consdiering I have not lost any strength over the past two weeks couple with the noticable fat loss throughout my body I can easily say I have lost no muscle (not saying that was 10 pounds of fat, glycogen was definitely a part. However water intake remains at 2 gallons a day so not soo much water loss.) Mirror comparisons are really what has me the most motivated so far. Visibly seeing the leaning out is highly rewarding and its only a matter of time before the hard part (abdomen/love handles) feels the wrath.

    As far as the supplements and there hand in this I have to say that IGF-2 has really produced on its claims of muscle endurance and accelerated recovery time. Strength like mentioned before has really stayed the same despite the calorie deficit (which will be dropped lower starting tomorrow) and taking that fact with a grain of salt and not expecting massive strength increases its a very reputable claim thus far. Furthermore IGF-2's sleep benefits have been very prominent. Deep restful sleep for 8-9 hours every night has been awesome both for muscle and energy benefits but mental as well.

    Anabolic Pump has also substantiated its claims. Despite taking in appreciable amounts of carbs over the past two weeks (274 grams every day, and 307 grams on leg day!) as you can see fat loss has not been hindered at all. I consider myself an endo-meso so carbs aren't completely my best friend.

    I figure to be adding in RPM as soon as I get my back taken care of (I don't want to start taking RPM than have to stop due to epidural procedure where I will be knocked out.) Also I have decided to make the IGF-2 run a little bit shorter than anticipated. Instead of the 6 week max run I've decided to give my bodies natural test and GH a chance to rest and will cycle off after one bottle of IGF-2 which is around a 5 week run. I will however be keeping in the RPM in throughout the remainder of my cut.
    Great results there bud, keep up the hard work. Oh yeah I have to ask...are you throwing down like D. Howard yet? LMAO.... I mean I see the other results, but any change in the vertical leap?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by UNCnate View Post
    Thats some nice results so far man. Ive had my eye on these products for a while.
    Thanks guys. Yea man they are some quality products and as of now I can say I would recommend you trying them if your interested. Just wait until RPM is added, gonna be dropping the hammer on these final %s!.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamBoz19 View Post
    Great results there bud, keep up the hard work. Oh yeah I have to ask...are you throwing down like D. Howard yet? LMAO.... I mean I see the other results, but any change in the vertical leap?
    Well as of now (and the past 2 weeks) I haven't been able to play basketball because of my back. Running and jumping was too much on it which is why I'm getting the injection this week hopefully. After that though its on! Right now if my back was healthy I can dunk easily but my goal at the end of this is to be able to get my elbow to the rim (not quite Howard status but I'd be 150% satisfied lol.)

    One day a week I do size training on calves, 3-4 other days I try and do vertical jump exercises that will help with my vertical to reach that. I'll definitely let ya know how it goes.
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  3. Day 16

    Workout
    -Had a great chest workout today. DB bench did 1 warm up set followed by 70x8, 95x8, 100x8, 100x7 (all with 2 second positive and 2 second negative.) I was debating just doing 100 throughout but I will just do that next time. So strength is definitely there and even increasing a tiny bit. I'll go for the 100 all 3 final sets next time for a total of 24 reps then bump it up.

    -Recovery is still getting better and better. Today I made sure after 3 minutes of rest I was banging out the next set (3 minutes on large muscles groups works really well) and it was a breeze.)

    Notes
    -Dropped overall calories down to 2800 per day. I bumped my fats up to 114 grams a day and carbs down to 186g (46 of which is fiber, and real carbs only around my workouts.) Protein is at 281 grams.

    -Going to the doctor tomorrow so I'll update that when I know when I can expect to begin RPM.

  4. I know it must be nice to be losing weight while at 2800 cals

    all while gaining strength as well thats some nice benefits man
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Week 1-2 Review

    Measurments as of 3/15

    Weight: 209.2 (- 10.8)
    BF: est. 12.5-13% (-2%)
    Arms: R: 15 1/8in L: 15 1/4in
    Waist (1 in below navel at largest point): 37 1/4 in (-3/4 in)

    Overall I am pleased with th first two weeks of this cut. From a fat loss stand point I am coming along very nicely. Although it wasn't a huge drop in waist measurement as many know that is and will be the last place to see results so 3/4 lost already is awesome. I have really noticed the major effects of the 10 pound loss in my arms, lower quads, and chest. Consdiering I have not lost any strength over the past two weeks couple with the noticable fat loss throughout my body I can easily say I have lost no muscle (not saying that was 10 pounds of fat, glycogen was definitely a part. However water intake remains at 2 gallons a day so not soo much water loss.) Mirror comparisons are really what has me the most motivated so far. Visibly seeing the leaning out is highly rewarding and its only a matter of time before the hard part (abdomen/love handles) feels the wrath.

    As far as the supplements and there hand in this I have to say that IGF-2 has really produced on its claims of muscle endurance and accelerated recovery time. Strength like mentioned before has really stayed the same despite the calorie deficit (which will be dropped lower starting tomorrow) and taking that fact with a grain of salt and not expecting massive strength increases its a very reputable claim thus far. Furthermore IGF-2's sleep benefits have been very prominent. Deep restful sleep for 8-9 hours every night has been awesome both for muscle and energy benefits but mental as well.

    Anabolic Pump has also substantiated its claims. Despite taking in appreciable amounts of carbs over the past two weeks (274 grams every day, and 307 grams on leg day!) as you can see fat loss has not been hindered at all. I consider myself an endo-meso so carbs aren't completely my best friend.

    I figure to be adding in RPM as soon as I get my back taken care of (I don't want to start taking RPM than have to stop due to epidural procedure where I will be knocked out.) Also I have decided to make the IGF-2 run a little bit shorter than anticipated. Instead of the 6 week max run I've decided to give my bodies natural test and GH a chance to rest and will cycle off after one bottle of IGF-2 which is around a 5 week run. I will however be keeping in the RPM in throughout the remainder of my cut.
    Nice detail. Great progress. Keep this up, bud!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I know it must be nice to be losing weight while at 2800 cals

    all while gaining strength as well thats some nice benefits man
    Yea man I love being this tall since I can get away with more calories and what note. I'm hoping i can get down to 7-8% without dipping below 2300 calories a day (I think I will be able to stay at 2700 throughout on the CKD.) Decent Calories + Strength = money cut lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Nice detail. Great progress. Keep this up, bud!
    Thanks bro!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I know it must be nice to be losing weight while at 2800 cals

    all while gaining strength as well thats some nice benefits man
    dang, i didn't even catch that (the 2800 cals). I maintain at that

  8. It's fun being 6'4

    Day 18
    RPM has been Added

    Workout
    -Well today was the first day of RPM. It was only a 45 minute empty stomach cardio session but RPM was felt.

    -I took the 4 rpm with my IGF-2 upon waking then went over to the computer to let it kick in before heading out. Within 30 minutes I felt myself becoming more focused and in tune with what I was doing. Got to the gym and was ready to bang out this session.

    -Previous few sessions like I have mentioned were a little bit annoying to get through (some lethargy, lack of energy, and so on that I attributed to the rise of GH levels from the IGF-2.) Today was no more! I was focused 100% with a stream of pure releasing energy (no jittery spastic stuff, just the right amount to pound through my cardio in a breeze.

    -I mentioned this before over in JJohn's Intra log that when a stim/energy booster makes your cardio enjoyable and when you done you want to do more that it makes your life less stressful and more enjoyable. Well RPM delivered me those luxuries.

    Notes
    -Well so far RPM's claim (taken from the bottle: "Intense Energy, Drive, and Focus") has already proven itself to me one day 1. I understand the effects of RPM are residual and will build overtime so I will be taking a close watch of this over the next few weeks.

    -I have finally laid out my diet for my CKD which will begin on Saturday (slight carb up on Saturday ~ nothing like a true one but just to get something to deplete.) During the week I will be consuming 2700 cals (210 g fat, 187g protein.) and Saturday will be 70/15/15 with 750-800 grams of carbs. I'm looking forward to seeing how well RPM gets me through the initial bodily adaption to ketosis because I know form the past that I don't do well initially with no carbs.

    -Looking forward to finishing up this IGF-2 with RPM and see what they can do with each other and then how RPM fairs on its own.

  9. Day 19

    Workout
    -Workout was sub par today. Incline Bench felt heavier than usual and I didn't really have the focus/drive I have been having. Triceps workouts were decent but abs and HIIT suffered.

    -I felt phsycially and mentally drained 5 minutes into my HIIT session (also after 5 minute warm up.) I decided to call it early as I really felt drained and that it would be smarter to take it easy.

    -Yesterday I was forced to miss a meal so maybe the extra low calories caused this or it was just not my day. Either way I am not positive what happened.

    Notes
    -Second day on RPM and wasn't feeling it in the gym, something was just off.

    -Gonna leave it at this today and see how tomorrow goes (leg day with squats so hopefully I'm back in the right frame of mind/intensity level.)

  10. Day 20

    Work Out
    -Had an awesome leg workout today, really put some strong emphasis on focusing on hamstring utilization during deep squats and single leg leg press (also lieing leg curls.)

    -I really felt as if I had a perfect connection going with my hamstrings and really put them to the test.

    -I felt light headed after my final 2 sets of squats and attribute it both to pushing myself and RPM (but if you don't feel sick after some intense squats then why bother squatting!)

    Notes
    -I have noticed that the combination of RPM and Anabolic Pump is creating absurd pumps/hardness. I wear a I-Pod arm band thing on my bicep and the past few weeks it was becoming tighter (both from muscle mass but also vascularity.) However yesterday as well as today (even on a leg day with no direct training) the band had to be taken off because it was restricting blood flow to my left arm.

    -I can't comment on strength increases on the RPM because it is too early but from the initial effects (RPM does claim that effects are notable from day 1) I am liking what I am experiencing.

    -Week 3 update on Saturday and a final review of IGF-2 as a stand alone will be be put up soon (as soon as IGF-2 is completed.)

  11. OOC sounds pretty promising, I'm planning a similar stack after my X-factor/RPM/Drive stack is done. I may keep the RPM and Drive and add the Anabolic Pump and IGF-2. You have any thoughts?

  12. I would say keep the RPM and Drive and add in the Anabolic Pump. How long have you been on the current stack?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    I would say keep the RPM and Drive and add in the Anabolic Pump. How long have you been on the current stack?
    I'm about 5 weeks in and I've really enjoyed this stack. I'm dosing .750 mg of the X-factor per day and avoiding the omega-3s during the stack. I'm currently up about 6-7 lb since I started, I think I may go back on the X-factor after cycling off for the recommended 50 days.

  14. Yea I would look into keeping the Drive and RPM and adding in the AP. Drive and IGF-2 would be very costly and I feel the AP will compliment the effects of the former nicely (and you will also be able to discern the effects of the AP since you have experience with the other supps.) Let me know what you decided on though.

  15. I was reading the beginning of this post and im also a taller guy who had trouble with devolping my back. Two years ago i started deadlifting hard and doing standing barbell rows and my back blew up and got shredded, wish i could do that to the front part of my body

  16. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    I was reading the beginning of this post and im also a taller guy who had trouble with devolping my back. Two years ago i started deadlifting hard and doing standing barbell rows and my back blew up and got shredded, wish i could do that to the front part of my body
    Yea man I would give anything to be able to do heavy deads again but have made the decision to forgo them due to my back. Barbell rows (with moderate weight and a belt) will be key to success in finally developing a proportional back (especially when I start back up trying to gain LBM.)

  17. Thanks for the input OOC, think that may be what I'll end up doing afterall.

  18. good luck man ckd diets are tough but very effective
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  19. Thumbs up Massive back?


    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Yea man I would give anything to be able to do heavy deads again but have made the decision to forgo them due to my back. Barbell rows (with moderate weight and a belt) will be key to success in finally developing a proportional back (especially when I start back up trying to gain LBM.)
    If you really want to develop a thick and massive back definitely make sure you do not forgo the simple, but yet often overlooked pull ups. Using a reverse wide grip and then maybe strapping a weight on for resistance. Conventional barbell rows are definitely effective, but I also like to throw in reverse barbell rows...feels like adds that extra tension to the workout. Anyway, just my two cents bud. Keep up the hard work and good luck to you as you continue on.
    "Never trust a b*tch because b*tches be crazy, now get out there and go crush some P***Y!" - Jerry Stiller.

  20. Yea I usually feel the effects of low carb diets (but in the past I also didn't compensate by raising fats enough.) I am actually really looking forward to being able to eat beef, cheese, and some other things i usually don't eat. Oh and the bottles of EVOO/Flax I will be going through like crazy ahah.. I also find if I have a massive carb day (not unhealthy but just healthy foods) I am completely content. Hopefully RPM can help me with the adjusting period to ketosis.

    Yea man I definitely focus on pull ups. I usually do them every other week but with the CKD starting and training changed they will be weekly. I'm hoping I see some improvements by summer (both from decreased bf and some size.)

    Week 3 update tomorrow.

  21. bulking on a CKD is what i'll be doing next go-around. I put on fat way too easily to allow carbs near me when i'm in a calorie surplus

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    bulking on a CKD is what i'll be doing next go-around. I put on fat way too easily to allow carbs near me when i'm in a calorie surplus
    I have never tried it but I find as long as I take in quality carbs and limit to 4 out of my 6 meals a day I can put on lbm pretty quickly with limited to no fat gain. Of course the addition of AP helps out, but I also find it hard not to sneak in extra carbs (which in the past has lead to some unnecessary weight gain.)

    I remember running across some of your posts while discussing your CKD cutting phase. Did that turn up positive results (in both fat loss and muscle retention?)

  23. it seems to work really well for me. I lean more towards a TKD style tho. thats where carbs pre/post workout are used every workout day, but no significant amounts of carbs non workout days or other meals. The last almost 3 weeks i've been doing that on a ludicrously restricted calorie diet - highest planned day in 3 weeks has been 1600 cals(had one bad cheat day), lowest just under 1100, with hitting 200g of protein a day. I've lost 9lbs on that, and my lifts are within 5% weightwise (some are up) of when I was on superdrol and 15lbs heavier. I can see the definition changes day by day sometimes.

    I think i'm finally really at 15%. so not too much more to go

  24. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    it seems to work really well for me. I lean more towards a TKD style tho. thats where carbs pre/post workout are used every workout day, but no significant amounts of carbs non workout days or other meals. The last almost 3 weeks i've been doing that on a ludicrously restricted calorie diet - highest planned day in 3 weeks has been 1600 cals(had one bad cheat day), lowest just under 1100, with hitting 200g of protein a day. I've lost 9lbs on that, and my lifts are within 5% weightwise (some are up) of when I was on superdrol and 15lbs heavier. I can see the definition changes day by day sometimes.

    I think i'm finally really at 15%. so not too much more to go
    Yea TKDs seem very solid (its essentially what I have been doing the past week or so except I still take in carbs from nuts and such after my workout carbs.) 1100 cals a day is insane, but more power to ya if you can keep your sanity/muscle. Thats awesome that your hitting you goals and seeing changes. Cutting sucks pretty hard but the changes make it all worth it.

  25. like today as an example, i'm in florida, its 12:45, and i've had about 300 cal so far for the day :P non workout day. about to have another 150 or so

  26. Week 3 Review

    Weight: Weight: 207.3 (-1.9)
    Arms: R:15 1/4 (no change) ::15 1/2 (no change)
    Waist: 37 (-1/4 in)

    Not huge numbers on the scale but thats not where I want to see changes per say but rather in the mirror, and mirror changes there are. I know how I loose weight and it is truly the definition of inside out (my extremities go then chest and back, and then finally the love handels and mid section.) I have not noticed any big changes in the mid section and no change in love handle area but I can say that my legs are becoming extremely lean while my lats appear more present and my chest is looking fuller/more defined (it actually looks bigger with separation from the delts forming nicely.) I also know I am holding some water weight because my sodium intake has been a bit higher than it should (been eating some deli turkey and frozen chicken breasts lately while my water intake remains at 2 gallons a day.)

    As far as supplements go I'm not going to go into huge detail with either the IGF-2 or AP because both of their final reviews will be comming up shortly so I will save it for that.

    RPM has been so-so. The first day I took it I felt the effects immediately (however it was taken by itself and not with IGF-2 and it was also on an empty stomach upon waking before cardio.) The effects I felt on day one were what I was expecting daily. However I have yet to see those results again. I have a couple questions regarding RPM: Is one hour after a carb meal too soon to be taking RPM? Would IGF-2 blunt the effects of RPM due to the release of GH? I'm trying to figure out what would cause the lack of effects and these are the factors that are different from day 1. Either way I will no for sure in the upcoming days because all my workouts while on ckd will be empty stomach (that includes lifting) so RPM will be truly tested and I can find out whats going on with me. If I still feel no effects than I am going to ramp up the dosage to 5 pre workout.

    I think the fat burning is really going to be kicked into high gear in the following week and will definitely bring me some answers regarding my bodies reaction to RPM on certain schedules/ dosing protocols. I will keep you guys posted.
    Last edited by OCCFan023; 03-22-2008 at 03:51 PM.

  27. Day 24

    Workouts
    -Began the CKD on Sunday so yesterday and today were both done on empty stomach to make sure I drop glucose levels to around 70mmol/kg in muscles hit (broke it into lower body + abs and upper body.)


    Notes
    -Too early to realize if RPM had not been working for me due to early stages, timing, and other factors but this week will surely clear that up.

    -My body is adjusting fairly well to the high fat intake and I'm absolutely loving my burger meal.

    -This Saturday will be my first carb up (780 grams of carbs) and like the next person I love my carbs but even this is going to be a challenge.

    -Just want to reiterate my final review of IGF-2 will be up in about a day or two.

  28. Day 26

    Workouts
    -Well since I began the CKD my workouts have completely changed and are geared toward glycogen depletion rather than strength so I will no longer really update on strength increases.

    -I have been doing empty stomach lifting and cardio 5 out of 7 days.

    -RPM has really been helping me out with energy during my bodies transition to ketosis. On days I have taken RPM in the morning I have felt no abnormal energy loss during the day and have still been able to bull through my workouts (which has every set rest times of 60 or 90 seconds for all lifts including squats, bench, rows.)

    Notes
    -Finished up my bottle of IGF-2 and will post up my review of it on Saturday or Sunday. My Anabolic Pump review that I have been meaning to do for a while (since this was not my first time on it) will also be included.

    -I will not be updating daily anymore because my workouts don't really coincide with that. I will remark on energy levels as I continue to adjust, give weekly updates on fat loss, and so on.

    -Also I will be adding in a bottle of ANs Lipo-PM courtesy of Easy. Will post up my thoughts on it once its added in.

  29. Applied Nutriceuticals IGF-2 Review

    Preface:
    -I began IGF-2 on day 1 of my cutting phase in hopes of strength retention while on a reduced calorie diet, aid in preservation of LBM, loose body fat at a controlled rate, and to help with sleep and overall well being. Was used in conjunction with AP (which I have used before so results were easily separated between the two.)

    -I ran 1 bottle for a total of 24 days with a dosing pattern of:
    4 pills pre-workout. 3 pills midday, and 3 pills 45 minutes before bed.

    Body Changes (Initial ---> 3 weeks after)

    Weight : 220 -----> 200.2 (-19.8 *Water and Glycogen loss attributes to this as well.)
    Body Fat %: 14%---->12% (-2%) *this is done by my idea of bf. Judge from pictures for personal thoughts.
    Waist just below navel: 38in ---> 36.5 in (-1.5 in)
    Arms: R:15.5 L:15.5 ----> R:15.25 (-.25) L:15 (-.5)
    Calves: R:15 L:15 ---> R:14.875(-.125) L: 14.5 (-.5)

    Strength/Cardio Endurance:
    -Throughout the 3 weeks I noted all lifts remained within 5% of their pre cut PRs. Although no strength was gained I was not surprised as I was not taking this product for that intention. I am very pleased with knowing abnormal strength loss (which in turn would lead me to believe LBM loss was occurring) did not occur at any point while taking IGF-2.

    -Despite some peoples success with IGF-2 and endurance/cardio benefits I personally experienced little/no benefit. I noted from the first dose that while doing empty stomach cardio I was sluggish and tired easier than normal (I am assuming this is from the gh release?)

    -However abstract from the results I saw from endurance during cardio I saw immediate benefits in recovery and endurance during strength training. Within the first week time between sets and exercises were drastically reduced. I give myself 2-3 minuets in between sets on smaller muscle groups and 3-4.5 minuets on larger muscle groups (and typically go towards the latter allotted time.) While on IGF-2 and keeping weights high I was barreling through rest times and there fore also cutting down on overall time in the gym.

    Fat Loss
    -I can't directly attribute fat loss to IGF-2 since I saw no remarkable jumps compared to previous fat loss periods without it, but LBM retention was definitely seen; namely dosing 4 caps prior to empty stomach cardio. I use to do empty stomach purely on an empty stomach and although fat loss was solid muscle loss was always in the back of my head. With IGF-2 I felt no adverse sides to emtpy stomach cardio and felt like it was almost a "armor" protecting muscle from unneeded breakdown.

    Overall Subjective Feelings
    -Drastic increase in anaerobic recovery time, but no increase/slight decrease in aerobic exercise.
    -Acne noticed on chest 7 days in, subsided by day 14.
    -Increase in nail growth as well as hair growth after 10 days remaining for the rest of the products use.
    -Much improved sleep. Within 45 minuets of taking IGF-2 before bed I was out like a light. Vivid dreams and deep RPM sleep was noted. Woke up resfreshed and ready to go every morning.
    -No mood elevation that people report while take GH/Test boosters.

    Overall Ratings:
    Strength Retention: 8.5/10
    Endurance/Recovery 8/10 (loved the lifting benefits, not a fan of cardio results)
    Sleep: 9.5/10
    Pumps/Vascularity: 7/10 (Pumps and vascularity where there, but no different than when I was taking AP solo, so I attribute vascularity and pumps to AP.)
    Product as a whole: 8.25/10

    Overall I very much enjoyed IGF-2 and its benefits. I recommend it too anyone considering trying it out and would love to see what someone could do on a purely LBM/strength gaining period.





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