Havoc & 4-AD - When do I get results?

[Cogent]

Have been taking 7 RPN Havoc and 6 4-AD per day since Friday.

This will make it day 4 on these supplements.

I've been eating tons, taking CytoGainer, Multivitamins, Milk Thistle, tons of carbs, protein.

I feel nothing out of the ordinary.

In fact, today at the gym I felt weaker than usual. I'm at 225lbs.

What am I supposed to expect from RPN Havoc or AMS 4-AD? Is everyone on this board a paid representative of Supplement companies?

I bet if I take 30 of these per day, I will see absolutely no results whatsoever. My testosterone is absolutely not increased.

I talked to a guy at the gym today who said he took Havoc for a month 2/day and saw absolutely no results.

If anything changes, I'll keep you posted. Until then, believe me when I say that these supplements suck ass so far. Really suck.

I'll probably get banned for saying these things because this board is probably run by Supplement companies.

[bpmartyr]

[Cogent]

but you don't deny that havoc is fake bull****, however. You won't need post cycle therapy, cause it doesn't do anything. This is an interesting Forum... I wonder if it's designed to help push these ****ty fake supplements. I wonder if the psychosomatic effect could make people bend over to buy another supply. Once without lube is fine for me. I'm good.

[MM1Snapper]

Have been taking 7 RPN Havoc and 6 4-AD per day since Friday.

This will make it day 4 on these supplements.

I've been eating tons, taking CytoGainer, Multivitamins, Milk Thistle, tons of carbs, protein.

I feel nothing out of the ordinary.

In fact, today at the gym I felt weaker than usual. I'm at 225lbs.

What am I supposed to expect from RPN Havoc or AMS 4-AD? Is everyone on this board a paid representative of Supplement companies?

I bet if I take 30 of these per day, I will see absolutely no results whatsoever. My testosterone is absolutely not increased.

I talked to a guy at the gym today who said he took Havoc for a month 2/day and saw absolutely no results.

If anything changes, I'll keep you posted. Until then, believe me when I say that these supplements suck ass so far. Really suck.

I'll probably get banned for saying these things because this board is probably run by Supplement companies.

WOW 70mg of havoc holy crap... And on top of that double the recomended dose of 4-ad.

Did you research any of these products before you started? Do you have the proper pct? And i would consider getting on a liver transplant list.

[ozarkaBRAND]

Havoc is great. It's been 4 days though. Give it at least a full 2 weeks before you make any kind of judgment.. it's completely normal for a steroid cycle.. FYI.

[bpmartyr]

but you don't deny that havoc is fake bull****, however.

I also didn't deny the existence of troll's now did I?

[ozarkaBRAND]

how old are you anyway? you're jumping to conclusions like a pissed of 16 year old.

Patience my friend. Patience! It's a wonderful trait to have, and if you don't.. then fix that.

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Bro you are a moron keep taking that much and you will feel something your liver hurting and your blood pressure pounding your head it is idiots like you that have got people going after the stuff.

The stuff is not bad but i bet your training and eating habits are they why you got no results

[Cogent]

Isn't it funny how the same people always quickly reply to my posts? Hehe, what a rigged Forum. Collusion. I mean I talked to this guy at the gym today that I've known for a long time. He took Havoc for a Month; twice a day. Nooooo results. I've taken real juice, I certainly felt something.

But there's always some reason or excuse you've got manufactured as to why it's not working. As if you were ready for people who figured it out. I lift a ****load of weight naturally. I train very hard, and I eat a lot, so you're not going to point to that. I can rep mid 300's bench and mid 400's squat naturally. On juice, I should be able to do 365 for reps on incline, all the way up to 405. Oh it's gonna happen. Until I start talking in all caps from the roid rage.

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Isn't it funny how the same people always quickly reply to my posts? Hehe, what a rigged Forum. Collusion. I mean I talked to this guy at the gym today that I've known for a long time. He took Havoc for a Month; twice a day. Nooooo results. I've taken real juice, I certainly felt something.

He must have a **** assed training and eating plan like you.

Don't go away mad just go away

[bpmartyr]

[ozarkaBRAND]

at 2 a day it would be hard (i think) to see any sort of noticable results. especially if he was a bigger guy. that's super-underdosed.

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Isn't it funny how the same people always quickly reply to my posts? Hehe, what a rigged Forum. Collusion. I mean I talked to this guy at the gym today that I've known for a long time. He took Havoc for a Month; twice a day. Nooooo results. I've taken real juice, I certainly felt something.

How do you know it was real did the gym at the gym say so

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Damn how did you get a picture of my brother

[bpmartyr]

I I've taken real juice, I certainly felt something.

Yeah, some of that thar instant Sustenon!

(see sig below)

[Cogent]

Whatever, I'm surprised you get anything out of talking all that ****. You know and I know that the **** is garbage. So why bother. If you want to keep convincing people that it works, then just delete my post and ban me from the board. I have no problem with that. And the sust I injected was my first ampule of juice ever, and yeah I did feel it. That's not uncommon is it? ****, I felt more on a handful of Dianabol than this ****. And it didn't take weeks. It kicked in in about 30-45 minutes for about 3-4 hours like real orals are supposed to.

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

Please read the last line of post #10 of this thread

[ozarkaBRAND]

Ur abosolutely wrong. Havoc works. Give it time.. be patient.

that is all.

[bpmartyr]

No banning! We need a new Salu!

[Cogent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion