Diesel nutrition stack: Trib test extreme and Ready 4 war (sponsored)

[johnyq]

Chuck has been nice enough to send me trib test extreme and ready 4 war to log.


I will not be taking any supplements other than swell/poseidon (which I have been taking for over 8 weeks now). I recently finished a log of drive and RPM. This log should be able to provide a nice comparison of the products.

GOALS

Add some pounds to my squat. I will test my squat tonight, and then at the end of the log.



Current stats as of today
(what I will use to gauge effectiveness)

weight: ---------178lbs
waist: ----------35" at navel
right arm:--------14.75"
Bench 1RM-------240



Standard supplement dosing:

I will be following the label directions.

3 Trib test extreme per day, taken 1 at a time over the course of the day.
3 Ready 4war , 45 minutes pre-workout (build up to this, starting with 1 on the first day).



My workout
Westside for skinny bastards


My background
I'm an average joe. I do office work every day, enjoy cheat foods and beer. Just trying to be healthy and look and feel good. I have been back in the game consistently for 6 months now at least.


expectations:

Don't really have any. I haven't read much about these products, although I did look carefully into what the ingredients are all about. Diesel nutrition seems to have a good rep so I hope for some good results.

[johnyq]

11/13 Day 1



workout

Squat
Last w/o---today
135 x8 ---135 x8
155 x5 ---155 x 5
185 x5 ---185 x5
190 x 5 ---190x5
195 x 5 ---195x5
200 x 3 ---200x5
205 x 3 ---205x2 (fatigued)




Bulgarian split squats w/DBs
last w/o-------today
25s x 8 ----- 25s x 10
30s x 7 ----- 25s x 10
30s x 7 ----- 25s x 10



Romanian deadlift
last w/o------today
135 x 8 ---- 135 x 8
135 x 8 ----- 145 x 7
135 x 8 ----- 145x7


high rep ab circuit



no cardio


dosing

I took 1 R4W at 5 15, but it took me a while to leave for the gym. I was feeling alert but not overly stim'd, so I took another 1 at 6 15 and headed off to the gym.

I didn't take my morning trib test extreme today, as I didn't realize I was going to be starting log until the afternoon.


Stats:


Weight: 178 (+0)



Overall feelings:

Wow, great energy and intensity. It was definitely more of a jittery energy than RPM, but it wasn't distracting from the workout (at 2 caps). I'm still very hyper right now, and worried about sleep tonight, but hopefully some abyss will knock me out.

One of the better workouts I have had in a while.

[Chuck Diesel]

subtropical...

how many RPM's did you use to take?

[joebo]

Interested as I find it to be the opposite. I feel R4W is less jittery than RPM. I guess things just effect people differently.

[johnyq]

subtropical...

how many RPM's did you use to take?

2-4 depending on the day. If I wasn't taking drive, I would take 3 usually. If I was taking drive with it, then I would normally take 2 although I wasn't getting overly intense workouts on 2.


My concerns about sleep were valid, but after 7 abyss I fell asleep at a reasonable time (took 4, didn't fall asleep, got up and took 3 more and was out pretty fast). Feel good this morning, no grogginess and I haven't had any coffee yet.

[johnyq]

11/15 Day 3



workout


Incline DB bench
(target: for max reps)

last w/o------today
30s x40ish --------
35s x 25------35sx28
35s x 22------35sx20
40s x 20------35sx 18
40s x 18


Pull-ups with SS of scarecrows

10 PUs SS 5s x 10
9 PUs SS 5s x 8
8 PUs SS 10s x 8
7 PUs SS 10s x 7


DB Mil Press
(target 8-12 reps)
last w/o-----today
35s x 12----35sx12
35s x 11----40sx8
40s x 8 -----40sx7
40s x 8-----40sx7


BB Shrugs w/ SS BB curls
(8-10 reps)

165 x 9 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 7



dosing

2 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:

My stomach wasn't empty when I took the R4W, and it definitely took a little longer to hit me. I noticed halfway through my workout that my hands were shaking

So I definitely got slightly jittery, but concentration was still good and I got through the workout fairly strong. So far there doesn't seem to be any excess aggression like I would get with RPM. That is both a good and a bad thing (I don't like being angry, but it did help with workouts).

weight/reps dropped just slightly from my last workout. This could be due to the fact I was on creatine at the time of my last workout.


I could swear I look leaner already. I know this is basically impossible, but that's how I feel. This is on top of the fact I ate cheese potato noodles last night with beer (can it get any worse?). I guess all I can say at this point is if it is actually occurring, that the difference at the end of this log will be very good.



Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)

[johnyq]

11/16 Day 4



workout


Box jumps
worked up to 15 aerobic steppers stacked

3 consecutive jumps x 5 sets


Reverse lunges
holding 30 pound dumbells, front foot elevated

x8
x8
x8


pull throughs
50x12
60x12
70x10


weighted abs

+25 pounds, crunches

hanging leg raises


dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:
Well I had leaned up some, I've dropped 1/8" off my waist since last measurement. Thats after partying all weekend with friends from florida, and a bad diet. Can't beat that

Also, my waist had plateaued at 35" for weeks now.


anyways...


I said what the hell today and took 3 R4W preworkout, even though 2 was pretty strong. For some reason I didn't get the jitters at all. I simply had a really kickass workout (although it is a fun day, and its a short day).

I thought I might be looking pumped in the gym today. My muscles do feel pretty full right now. I know thats not the design of the supplements, but just thought I'd note it. My arm measurement is still the same though.


Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)
Waist (at navel): 34 7/8" (-1/8)
right arm: 14 7/8" (+0)

[johnyq]

11/17 Day 5: libido in full effect



workout


BB bench
185x3
195x3
205x3
215x2
225x1

flat DB bench

35x20
40x18


bent rows SS facepulls
155x 8 SS 70 x9
155x 7 SS 70 x8
135 x 9 SS 70 x 7

Shrugs
155x8
185x8
185x7

incline DB curls
30s x8
30s x8
30s x 7


dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:

Libido really started kicking in. just call me mr. erection.


Workout felt good. Energy wasn't insane, no jitters.


Muscle hardness seems up a decent amount.


Strength stayed the same.



Stats:

Weight: 177 (-1)

[johnyq]

11/19 Day 7



workout

Squat
Last w/o---today
135 x8 ---135 x8
155 x5 ---155 x 5
185 x5 ---185 x3
190 x 5 ---195x3
195 x 5 ---205x3
200 x 3 ---215x2
205 x 2 ---215x1




Bulgarian split squats w/DBs
last w/o-------today
25s x 10 ----- 35s x 6
25s x 10 ----- 35s x 6
25s x 10 ----- 35s x 6



Pull throuhgs
70x12
70x12


high rep ab circuit


dosing
3R4W pre workout
3 trib test extreme throughout the day


Stats:


Weight: 179 (+1)



Overall feelings:
I had to go to the gym during lunch today, being that my family is in town.

Popped the R4W at my desk and noticed I was starting to shake as it was getting time for the gym. So I get the jitters if I'm just sitting, but it seems once I hit the gym they disappear. In fact, it is kind of hard to type right now.


Intensity was solid. Strength was about the same.

Muscle hardness is still good.


Libido is higher than normal, but not insane today. This weekend, my morning salute would just not go away. It seems the day after a workout day (when I take R4W) is more intense, but I'll continue to log and see what happens.

[johnyq]

just to add about today...holy crap am I CRACKED OUT. I had a cup of coffee when I woke up, and a cup of tea (pu ehr) at 10 30. The combination of that caffeine on top of R4W at 11:00 is too much for me


If I don't crash from this, then I will never have a crash from R4W.

[Chuck Diesel]

just to add about today...holy crap am I CRACKED OUT. I had a cup of coffee when I woke up, and a cup of tea (pu ehr) at 10 30. The combination of that caffeine on top of R4W at 11:00 is too much for me


If I don't crash from this, then I will never have a crash from R4W.

see direction:

Dont take within 2 hours of stimulants.

[johnyq]

see direction:

Dont take within 2 hours of stimulants.

ya if I saw that in the directions I just read it as "don't take with other crazy pre workout stims", rather than meaning to avoid tea and coffee as well. I realize the fault is mine, not R4W's. I still feel the need to comment on what I'm feeling.



Hindsight something something...

[Chuck Diesel]

I still feel the need to comment on what I'm feeling.



Hindsight something something...

yeah I wasnt defending r4w or anything like that, I was just saying.

[johnyq]

11/20 Day 8



workout


Incline DB bench
(target: for max reps)

last w/o------today
35s x 28------40x25
35s x 20------40x20
35sx 18 ------40x18
--------------40x15



Pull-ups with SS of scarecrows
10PU SS 10s x 8
8PU SS 10s x 8
7PU SS 10s x 7


DB Mil Press
last w/o-----today
35s x 12----40s x9
40s x8----40sx8
40s x 7 -----40sx6
40s x 7


BB Shrugs w/ SS BB curls
(8-10 reps)

165 x 9 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 7



dosing

2 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:
Since it was another lunch workout day, I took 2 R4W instead of the 3 I took yesterday (as I still had my morning coffee). No real identifiable intensity from it, I could have handled 3 today. The workout was still good, I ripped through it pretty fast. I might have seen a small increase in strength, but my endurance took a drop. A give and take today, it was nothing drastic in either direction though.

I still feel like I'm leaning out. Its thanksgiving holiday week going on, so I'm really just having fun and letting my diet go, but I still feel leaner. I might have to let pictures decide if I'm delusional or not. I'll post them at the end of the log.

Oddly my libido has really dropped. I had a spike for 2 days or so, and now its normal it seems.

Muscle hardness has been consistently higher.

Not a lot else to comment on still.


Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)

[Chuck Diesel]

11/20 Day 8



workout


Incline DB bench
(target: for max reps)

last w/o------today
35s x 28------40x25
35s x 20------40x20
35sx 18 ------40x18
--------------40x15



Pull-ups with SS of scarecrows
10PU SS 10s x 8
8PU SS 10s x 8
7PU SS 10s x 7


DB Mil Press
last w/o-----today
35s x 12----40s x9
40s x8----40sx8
40s x 7 -----40sx6
40s x 7


BB Shrugs w/ SS BB curls
(8-10 reps)

165 x 9 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 8
165 x 8 SS 75 x 7



dosing

2 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:
Since it was another lunch workout day, I took 2 RPM instead of the 3\)

???

[johnyq]

???

sorry chuck, I of course meant R4W. It was late when I was putting up the log


*edited for correctness*



My gym closes early today, so I won't be able to make it. I should be able to make up the day on saturday though.

[johnyq]

11/24 Day 12

workout


BB bench
previous w/o---today
185x3 ---------185x5
195x3 ---------195x5
205x3 ---------205x4
215x2 ---------210x2
225x1 ---------210x1

incline DB bench
40x20
40x14


seated rows SS facepulls
120x12 SS 70 x8
130x 9 SS 70 x8
120 x 9 SS 60 x 7
120x8 SS 60 x 6

DB Shrugs
60s x12 x 10 x 8

incline DB curls
30s x8
30s x8
30s x 7


dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:

solid energy. I hurt my back on tuesday, and its been off ever since, so I have to be careful for a while.

Strength definitely hasn't gone up, maybe even down a little bit.



Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)





sorry for the slight delay in posting, had family in for the thanksgiving break.

[johnyq]

11/26 Day 16

workout

due to my mild back injury, I could not do heavy squats today per the standard w/o.

I did Leg press instead, DB squats, and some light SL deadlift.

dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day (every day, haven't missed a dose)



Overall feelings:
energy: I was actually really jittery today. My heart rate was too high, and it was slightly uncomfortable. It didn't help that the gym was hotter than usual. The interesting side to this is I was tired all day, no amount of coffee or tea could help. R4W definitely woke me up and gave me the energy for the gym, just for some reason I was pushed a little over the edge. There does seem to be a delicate balance with R4W, it is potent stuff.

Otherwise it was a good workout, even though I had to work around my back issue.

bodyfat: I think I have still leaned out, even with the gain in weight. I'm really curious to see the photos at the end, to see if I'm right or not. My diet has definitely not been great during the holiday.

Strength: No strength comparison for todays workout, since it was abnormal.

Sides: I have gotten some mild bacne, which is not something I'm prone to (I am prone to face acne).

muscle hardness: has continued to be very good during the whole run. Vascularity might have increased slightly, but nothing insane (my BF is too high for true vascularity anyways).



Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)

[johnyq]

11/27 Day 17

workout
Incline DB bench
50s x 16
50s x 15
50s x 10

Pull ups, SS scarecrows
10 SS 8
9 SS 8
8 SS 8

DB Mil press
35x12
40x8
40x8

DB shrugs SS DB incline curls
65s x 10 SS40x4
70s x 8 SS 35s x6
70s x 8 SS 35s x5

dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:
Only slightly jittery today. Heart rate was definitely raised, which I feel makes it harder to workout, but all in all it was a good workout.



Stats:

Weight: 179 (+1)

[johnyq]

11/29 Day 19

workout
Box jumps
16 aerobic steppers stacked, 3 reps, 8 sets

This was 1 stepper higher than before.


Reverse lunges, front foot raised
30sx8
30sx8
30sx8

Pull throughs
70x12
80x10
80x9

Hanging leg raises
15
15
12
10

Calf work

dosing

3 R4W preworkout

3 trib test extreme throughout the day



Overall feelings:
Workout was awesome today. Great energy and focus, no problems with heart rate or jitters. Very pleased. One of those days where you could workout for hours.

Everything went up in weight as well, although this is a "for reps" day, which means my endurance is going up. I just wish I could get some pounds on the big lifts...

Tomorrow will be my last workout for this log. I'll take measurements and pictures, and post my final review this weekend.


Stats:

Weight: 181 (+3)