supplements feeling them right away???? BS!

[TiTanUp]

okay I have taken test dbol and countless other roids the only ph other than test to feel right away was was superdrol I have taken many supplements as well.

So i read these logs of stuff kicking in right away and they feel massive pumps and strength.

I dont belive it, if a real anabolic steroid does not have that effect how is so some natural herb or even other suf going to kick in right away.

PLACEBO OR PEOPLE TRYING TO HYPE PRODUCTS THEY WERE GIVEN FREE HOPING TO GET MORE!

[EasyEJL]

some placebo and some real. the way the herbals work is completely different than hormonal stuff so it makes sense. Thats sort of like saying viagra can't give you a hardon in 30 minutes because pinning testosterone doesn't. they work in completely different ways. You can feel ephedrine or caffeine right after you take it right? but can you feel T3 30 minutes later? no.

Placebo effect and stim effect can account for a lot of the strength part. metally feeling good, and if you dont usually take much pre workout stims, that can make a decent diference on strength and aggression feeling from right after takign it

[edwards]

specifically, what products are you referring about? Just curious.

i probably would agree with you about people feeling massive pumps and strength after taking something once or twice. i seriously doubt that happens. some products cause pumps, but what good is a temporary pump?

[matthew76]

If you're going to call something BS, at least say what it is... Stop with the blanket statements and man up!

[sdmf45]

If you're going to call something BS, at least say what it is... Stop with the blanket statements and man up!

exactly what i was thinking. even though i have an idea of some of the things he's talking about.

[thebigt]

some placebo and some real. the way the herbals work is completely different than hormonal stuff so it makes sense. Thats sort of like saying viagra can't give you a hardon in 30 minutes because pinning testosterone doesn't. they work in completely different ways. You can feel ephedrine or caffeine right after you take it right? but can you feel T3 30 minutes later? no.

Placebo effect and stim effect can account for a lot of the strength part. metally feeling good, and if you dont usually take much pre workout stims, that can make a decent diference on strength and aggression feeling from right after takign it

great post. the viagra analogy gave me a good laugh, nice job easy.

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[EasyEJL]

great post. the viagra analogy gave me a good laugh, nice job easy.

the T3 vs ECA is probably more realistic one, but i try for comic relief

[CROWLER]

If you're going to call something BS, at least say what it is... Stop with the blanket statements and man up!

I think it is BS that you can feel your muscles getting bigger the first time you use a single serving of Anabolic Innovations protein powder.

Second serving well sure but NOT the first one.


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[eatingisfun]

Injectable AAS has a half-life of weeks or more depending on the compound. PH does not so you can feel it faster. Some PH half lives are measured in hours not days or weeks. Same with some other herbal compounds.

And the reason why you don't feel AAS as soon as you inject it is because it takes time to metabolize it into free test(assuming a test based AAS) from the ester bound to it.

[Dutchman]

Sorry but having done 7 cycles of SD I can't agree with you. From the first to the last for me and also for the hundreds of other users I have talked to over the years, SD is almost always a delayed onset, being felt first around the second week of use.

Now with regard to most products you are absolutely correct! That's just the usual product hype and wishful thinking/placibo effect of/on the users.

If you want, I suggest trying a combo of Epistane and Formestane, now that gets you cranking in just days and keeps on delivering for a good 8 weeks when pulsed. They make up the best and the safest, legal combo I have seen in the last 15 years.

[thebigt]

Sorry but having done 7 cycles of superdrol I can't agree with you. From the first to the last for me and also for the hundreds of other users I have talked to over the years, SD is almost always a delayed onset, being felt first around the second week of use.

Now with regard to most products you are absolutely correct! That's just the usual product hype and wishful thinking/placibo effect of/on the users.

If you want, I suggest trying a combo of Epistane and Formestane, now that gets you cranking in just days and keeps on delivering for a good 8 weeks when pulsed. They make up the best and the safest, legal combo I have seen in the last 15 years.

hey dutchman, i really recommend get diesel dthc for bridge between cycles. seems to work even better for us older guys.

[TiTanUp]

If you're going to call something BS, at least say what it is... Stop with the blanket statements and man up!

To be honest I was not talking about any supplement in paticular just posts that I have read over time were this person states they felt it right away and lifts went up or stuff like that. I just couldnt see how herbal supplements can produce results in one serving just as with test prop it takes a while to get into the bloodstream and does not immiaedtley work. Now if there is such a thing as herbal working right away I would like to know how it works and would love to try it myself.

For instance I took Activate/Rebound Reloaded (herbal) and it worked took 2 weeks or so but it worked and I loved it. And right now I am about to try Hyperdrol so I am not bashing herbals at all.

This is in no way a blanket statement.

I am in no way saying that herbals do not work i just cant seem them working immediatley as some people have posted.

And again let me clarify I am not bashing any product.

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[TiTanUp]

exactly what i was thinking. even though i have an idea of some of the things he's talking about.

I am not talking about any supplement.

[slow-mun]

okay I have taken test dbol and countless other roids the only ph other than test to feel right away was was superdrol I have taken many supplements as well.

So i read these logs of stuff kicking in right away and they feel massive pumps and strength.

I dont belive it, if a real anabolic steroid does not have that effect how is so some natural herb or even other suf going to kick in right away.

PLACEBO OR PEOPLE TRYING TO HYPE PRODUCTS THEY WERE GIVEN FREE HOPING TO GET MORE!

Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of these people were strong to begin with? BTW, M5AA, nuff said......

[TiTanUp]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of these people were strong to begin with? BTW, M5AA, nuff said......

What does being strong have do with feeling a supplement on the first serving. And M5AA is not herbal.

I never said they were not strong. Some of the posts say there bench went up after one serving.

Man I just tried to ask a question and start a disscusion and people get all defensive. Cant even have a normal discussion without people jumping down your throat.

[TiTanUp]

some placebo and some real. the way the herbals work is completely different than hormonal stuff so it makes sense. Thats sort of like saying viagra can't give you a hardon in 30 minutes because pinning testosterone doesn't. they work in completely different ways. You can feel ephedrine or caffeine right after you take it right? but can you feel T3 30 minutes later? no.

Placebo effect and stim effect can account for a lot of the strength part. metally feeling good, and if you dont usually take much pre workout stims, that can make a decent diference on strength and aggression feeling from right after takign it

besides stims do you belive there are herbals that will make your bench go up or lift more after one serving?

[methodice]

I felt this thread as soon as I clicked it, must be a BS thread.

[EasyEJL]

besides stims do you belive there are herbals that will make your bench go up or lift more after one serving?

Not really, but I would potentially include vasodiolators as stims too even tho they dont normally fall into that cateory. Other than that and stims, its mostly excitement that causes that on first day