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    Quote Originally Posted by ltdgt99 View Post
    Hey guys I had a quick question. Do you think that using a joint supplement will affect the perfomance of XF? The joint supplement I have has glucosamine, condroiton, and msm. Let me know what you think.
    it should be fine, others have used those. at really high doses, those possibly would have an effect, but not at normal label doses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Workin what sort of total volume are we talking about here? I am basically just wondering approximately how many sets we are talking about per exercise? I really like the looks of your routine but I am just wondering how many sets because I seem to overtrain pretty easily and try not to do too much volume work.

    Also do you do all sets to failure? Or do you try to complete rep ranges with just a little bit left?

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    I usually do 3-4 work sets of each exercise. (warm ups aren't counted) I often change my routine to go from pyramid style sets/reps/weight to double progression style. Lately, I've been loving double progression...especially for the leg press.

    Here's an example of my reps/sets/weights on leg press when doing double progression:

    -A constant weight for all sets...usually 5 plates per side.
    -4 sets total
    -8-15 reps per set.
    -60 seconds rest MAX in between sets.

    I'll try and get 15 reps on all 4 sets. Usually it turns out to be around 15/14/12/10. Once I can get 15 reps on all for sets, within the allotted time, I up the weight for the next workout and repeat the process. The key hear is slow, strict form and being sure your not resting more than 60 seconds between sets.

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    Sounds great Workin. Thanks. It is similar to what i have been doing but I will make some modification as per your program here. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Sounds great Workin. Thanks. It is similar to what i have been doing but I will make some modification as per your program here. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Damn.. Wish i could get that lean, let alone stay that lean..lol Good luck, i am interested to see your thoughts on this.

    Any info on your diet?
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    I was going to buy some intill i saw this Bodybuilding.com - bjrboss's BodyBlog - Warning! X-FACTOR is DANGEROUS!!!!!

    My thoughts are you ave to have a pre existing condition, or it might can cause these effects two people report. I Hope all goes well with your and I hope it works like claimed with only positive side effects. Digestion, muscle building...

    are these gains tempory like Ph's and gear or long lasting?
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    it should be long lasting, as part of its effect is just like following the gironda diet natural fatty acid found in eggs + steaks
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    it should be long lasting, as part of its effect is just like following the gironda diet natural fatty acid found in eggs + steaks
    Awesome! I was over thinking and wrong. The reason these people had these sides is because they already had a case that didnt agree with inflamatory substances aka AA
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    yeah, its just impossible to say for sure. i believe risk level is far lower with AA than anything else that will give that level of results
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yeah, its just impossible to say for sure. i believe risk level is far lower with AA than anything else that will give that level of results
    Exactly. Thanks Easy. Now let's get back to Workin's log!
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    Day 26:

    Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

    I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
    Leviathan has curbed my appetite, so hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

    I'm very happy with XF up to this point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    Day 26:

    Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

    I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
    Leviathan has curbed my appetite, to hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

    I'm very happy with XF up to this point!

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    You're half way into your cycle -- how's the LBM doing? Any gains? This is what we all really wanna know. [If you only gain 2-3 lbs in 50 days, it might not be worth it. But if you gain 7-8 lbs, hell yeah!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    Day 26:

    Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

    I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
    Leviathan has curbed my appetite, so hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

    I'm very happy with XF up to this point!

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    Awesome that you like XF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x View Post
    You're half way into your cycle -- how's the LBM doing? Any gains? This is what we all really wanna know. [If you only gain 2-3 lbs in 50 days, it might not be worth it. But if you gain 8-10 lbs, hell yeah!]
    So far, I've gained 4 pounds...but remember, this is on a VERY strict, low calorie, low carb diet. My body fat is somewhat skewed right now as I'm holding some water. It currently reads about exactly like it did prior to beginning the cycle (about 7-8%) but I know if I lost the water I'd be at 6-7%.

    So XF is very effective at LBM gains...epecially if one were to up their calories a bit. The fact that my strength has increased and my muscles are staying staying so full on such a restricted diet speaks volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    So far, I've gained 4 pounds...but remember, this is on a VERY strict, low calorie, low carb diet. My body fat is somewhat skewed right now as I'm holding some water. It currently reads about exactly like it did prior to beginning the cycle (about 7-8%) but I know if I lost the water I'd be at 6-7%.

    So XF is very effective at LBM gains...epecially if one were to up their calories a bit. The fact that my strength has increased and my muscles are staying staying so full on such a restricted diet speaks volumes.

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    That does sound promising. [Actually, when I re-read my own post, 8-10 lbs sounded a little too ambitious, so I edited it to read 7-8 lbs. But it now looks like 10 lbs isn't necessarily out of the question, with proper caloric intake.] And considering that you won't need pct, and should keep most or all of your gains, maybe this AA stuff is OK. Keep us informed, Workin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x View Post
    That does sound promising. [Actually, when I re-read my own post, 8-10 lbs sounded a little too ambitious, so I edited it to read 7-8 lbs. But it now looks like 10 lbs isn't necessarily out of the question, with proper caloric intake.] And considering that you won't need post cycle therapy, and should keep most or all of your gains, maybe this AA stuff is OK. Keep us informed, Workin.
    He WILL keep all his gains, and continue to gain when off
    , as AA levels will gradually decrease.
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    Workin, 4 pounds on a restricted diet in such a short time is impressive.

    I was wondering if this was a sponsored log/gift or if you purchased the X-factor yourself.

    Finally, I enjoy your products and have to say that Prld is a very helpful and intelligent rep for your products AND many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Workin, 4 pounds on a restricted diet in such a short time is impressive.

    I was wondering if this was a sponsored log/gift or if you purchased the X-factor yourself.

    Finally, I enjoy your products and have to say that Prld is a very helpful and intelligent rep for your products AND many others.
    I agree, it is very impressive. Now I know the water I'm holding accounts for at least a pound but I'm just shocked I was able to build anything with such a restricted diet. I was only expecting XF to help me hold onto muscle during this time so I'm very pleased with the results.

    This was not a completely sponsored log, but more of a trade out. I don't feel pressured to give good feedback, nor would I ever, if it's not justified. I'm just reporting my experince...the good and the bad.

    Thanks for the complement on our products and our rep Prld. He does a great job and we are very blessed to have him on the Nimbus Nutrition team.

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    The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

    Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

    I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

    Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

    I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
    No need to cap the bulk. It isn't that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

    Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

    I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
    I heard you can just flush it down like a man
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

    Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

    I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
    Exactly! and it is allowed in all natural bodybuilding competetions.

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    nice progress starting my xfactor poseidon monday !
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

    Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

    I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
    I believe that dsade said it takes 15 caps or so per day in that case. It's a lot of pills considering the bulk size concentration that the bulk comes in vs the soft gels.
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    yeah, with the bulk you are taking 10g a day. you do the math probably 400-500 in a 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yeah, with the bulk you are taking 10g a day. you do the math probably 400-500 in a 0.
    The recommend dose on X factor is--- Directions: Take 1 softgel 3-4 times daily for 50 days (2 bottles are required for a full cycle). Do not exceed recommended dosage. Take 50 days off before repeating. To maximize benefits, avoid supplementing omega 3 fatty acids, or other anti-inflammatory products, while taking X-Factor.
    and that 250 mgs a cap.

    Directions say Don't exceed recommend dosage. I always follow labels unless I know Its safe.

    why are people dosing higher? Is it safe?
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    O and to repeat myself Ive read over at Mindandmuscle thats its ok to take omega 3's with AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    O and to repeat myself Ive read over at Mindandmuscle thats its ok to take omega 3's with AA.
    bump to this your only person ive seen post this
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    Ill look for the article brb
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    the higher dose is for the bulk. x-factor is 250mg of 40% AA in 650mg gelcaps. the bulk is 10% so 250mg of AA requires 2.5g of raw.
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    My trial with Arachidonic Acid - Mind and Muscle Forums

    I really dotn have the time to dig it up. If I do Ill post it here. Here in this thread a Ironfiend54 comments on to keep taking in Omega 3's so here an aspect of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    the higher dose is for the bulk. x-factor is 250mg of 40% AA in 650mg gelcaps. the bulk is 10% so 250mg of AA requires 2.5g of raw.
    good to know biggie, er easy...
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    Day 33:

    Strength is through the roof as well as endurance. I really am amazed at how well XF has allowed me to retain muscle and strength during such a calorie deficient time. This has to be on of the best recomp supplements on the market.

    Hunger pains are getting a bit annoying, but the Leviathan has helped greatly at reducing them. I'm definitely getting much more sore after my workouts the longer I'm on XF. That just lets me know it's working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    Day 33:

    Strength is through the roof as well as endurance. I really am amazed at how well XF has allowed me to retain muscle and strength during such a calorie deficient time. This has to be on of the best recomp supplements on the market.

    Hunger pains are getting a bit annoying, but the Leviathan has helped greatly at reducing them. I'm definitely getting much more sore after my workouts the longer I'm on XF. That just lets me know it's working.

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    nice bro 33 days huh. i havent been following ur log completly when did xfactor kick in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    nice bro 33 days huh. i havent been following ur log completly when did xfactor kick in?
    I noticed the hunger and increased muscle soreness in the beginning of the second week....it slowly snowballed from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workin2005 View Post
    Day 33:

    Strength is through the roof as well as endurance. I really am amazed at how well XF has allowed me to retain muscle and strength during such a calorie deficient time. This has to be on of the best recomp supplements on the market.

    Hunger pains are getting a bit annoying, but the Leviathan has helped greatly at reducing them. I'm definitely getting much more sore after my workouts the longer I'm on XF. That just lets me know it's working.

    Workin
    Looks good workin!!!!! I'm very happy you fell in love with it!
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    great job so far keep up the good work im enjoyin followin this
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    great job so far keep up the good work im enjoyin followin this
    Thanks guys!

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