Hank's true TEST of Palo's New Thermo Beta
09-24-2007 06:45 PM
09-24-2007 07:01 PM
a little bit about myself
i am just a fitness enthusiast who has been on a very gradual and slow cut since late April, dropping 15lbs over those 5 months.
here is how i looked mid April.
over the past month i've kind of hit a plateau. not gaining or losing any weight and reaching a current equilibrium. so i should be an OK judge on if this new product can make any difference.
so i will not be changing my diet or training routine during this Beta run and should hopefully be able to attribute any results as coming from this beta.
today i'm fairly lean but one can always get leaner. just like one can always get bigger. fyi i plan on addressing the getting bigger part this winter.
Current training routine:
hard to describe because it varies each week. i go a lot by feeling and switch up my routine almost weekly to keep my interest and intensity fired up without overtraining. i lift a minimum of 3 days per week with some weeks lifting 5 days. lifting split is usually either back/bis, chest/tris, legs/shoulders or back, chest, legs, arms, shoulders. usually put in 2-3 cardio or sprinting sessions per week.
my diet is kinda strange as well, but it seems to be working very well recently. i keep it super-duper clean for 2 weeks (that's about as long as i can take it) then typically 2-3 days of binge crap eating (usually foods i've been craving like ice cram, pizza and burgers). during the clean eating stint, i limit carbs to almost entirely post workout getting a total of between 100-250g carbs/day. protein is always over 200g/day weather i'm in the clean or dirty phase - 60 grams comes in a whey post workout shake. fat intake fluctuates between 70-150g/day. calories during the clean phase range between 2000-2500/day. dirty days it's typically well above 3,000/day.
Supps i have used in the past:
creatine mono, glutamine, whey, multi-vit, fish oil, beta-alanine, purple wraath, promagnon, halodrol-50, rebound xt, green tea, RPM, yohimbine, caffine
Supps i'm currently using:
creatine mono, whey, multi-vit, fish oil, beta-alanine
09-25-2007 05:50 PM
ok, ready to go! i got a pm that it was shipped out yesterday so should be able to start sometime later this week once it arrives. can't wait.
09-25-2007 06:01 PM
09-26-2007 11:06 AM
yeah, looking forward to this. palo only seems to release good products!
09-27-2007 10:17 PM
the goods arrived today!
looks cool, came in a plain white bottle with just some black marker writing saying 'Palo Alto Thermo Beta'.
want to start tomorrow, but first wanted to know the ingredient profile. i know this is top secret still but could someone from Palo Alto pm me. i won't tell.
09-28-2007 07:13 PM
OMFG! this stuff is the strongest stim i've ever taken.
just popped my first two caps 2 hrs ago on an empty stomach. w/o knowing whats even in it (i don't advocate taking something when you don't know what it is - but i do it from time to time). no worries though as john said he was going to send me the profile.
anyway, i'm headed to workout so i'll let you know how it goes.
right now i'm just sitting at my computer and sweating like crazy. feel sooo alert and AMPED. it's off the friggin charts!!!
09-28-2007 08:20 PM
haha. I am not a fatty. Well, no, I am :P best of luck man! Im crazy arent I? Oh well, I have to get "examined" by the doctor so I cut all my supplements. ill be checking up on you. Im planning on a cut next year maybe this thermo is just what I need.
09-28-2007 08:37 PM
lucky break for me that you had to drop out of testing this.
Originally Posted by Cellardude
thanks for stopping by.
09-28-2007 08:46 PM
i should have probably started with only one cap and then worked my way up to two at once. this stuff is extremely strong!
prior to this i was using RPM at 3 caps prior to my workout, and i loved it. let me say that this new thermo is WAY stronger. got a very similar feeling that i get from RPM but much more intense.
what i felt: sweating, heart racing, out of breath, some minor cramping and hyped up beyond belief!!!
i think my workout may have suffered a little due to the symptoms. i wasn't able to lift any more than usual but was able to move quickly through my workout. after heavy sets i was extremely out of breath and felt like my heart was going to jump out of my chest. started getting some slight cramps in my calf and feet but stretched them a little to alleviate it.
i think this thermo may make cardio difficult.
on the positive side of things, i believe my metabolism is running at full throttle!!! i just get the feeling that this is going to melt the fat off.
after using this i have my suspicions on what some of the ingredients may be.
09-30-2007 02:20 PM
ok, i think i've started to settle in w/this stuff.
took 3 caps yesterday spaced out throughout the day and felt great all day!
workout was great too. did chest and tris and felt strong and got a nice pump.
the best part is how alert and overall good feeling i have from this.
today, i'm planning on taking 4 total caps spaced out with two of them prior to my workout. going to try cardio today. we'll see what it does.
09-30-2007 02:30 PM
i'm in and waiting for mine...................
john, GET THIS STUFF RELEASED!
10-01-2007 09:17 AM
workin on er.....im loving it, i need more.
Originally Posted by macedaddy
10-01-2007 10:01 AM
oh no, macedog is in the house.
Originally Posted by macedaddy
10-01-2007 10:03 AM
john, palo sent me enough supply for 30 days (120 caps total). thought it was only supposed to be enough for a 15 day run?
Originally Posted by john123131
if it's not a mistake i'll just run it for 30 days. should get double the results!
10-01-2007 10:06 AM
yeah, better keep this log CLEAN!
Originally Posted by Hank Vangut
10-01-2007 10:09 AM
took a total of 4 caps yesterday mostly spread out throughout the day. two caps approx 1hr before my workout on an empty stomach.
again the stuff is STRONG but i seem to be settling in a little with it. my workout was great and it didn't seem to hinder my cardio like i was expecting. i did sweat a tremendous amount. and still get a weird type of jittery feeling in my chest.
something else i notice with this is my apatite is zapped. might be from the stim effect. stims seem to always suppress my apatite some.
that's all for now.
10-01-2007 10:12 AM
sept 21st has me extra squeeky clean!
Originally Posted by macedaddy
10-01-2007 12:34 PM
10-01-2007 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by metroba
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