Up In Smoke! Superdrollovers X-Dream Log
- 07-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Up In Smoke! Superdrollovers X-Dream Log
I have not figured out yet how to add all the fancy pictures and all yet so bare with me..
I took my first dose last night after a great arm workout and a mile run, usually when i combine the two i dont sleep the greatest, but last night was awesome.About an hour after i took it i started feeling very relaxed even more so than taking 2mg of ativan which i have done several times due to increased anxiety on cycle. within 2 hours i was sleeping like a baby. The funny thing is i woke up in the exact same position i went to sleep in which never happens even after a short run i tend to move around alot. Let me put it this way , I used to smoke alot of GREEN when i was younger and that is about the only thing i can compare it to, without the cottonmouth..lol...
Tonight i am going to take one and see how that goes.....
- 07-17-2007, 08:04 PM
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07-18-2007, 12:22 PM
Well last night was a little different. I only took one and couldnt get to sleep for like 2 hours. Once I fell asleep i was up off and on the whole night!So needless to say from now on I will be taking the recomended dose.I did however get the the same relaxed feeling that I experienced with 2, so it wasnt a total let down.
07-18-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm very skeptical of the product claims (no offense to IBE), but would really like to see that it proves to be effective. I've got lots of experience with GABAergic drugs/supplements (GABA, Phenibut, benzodiazapines, picamilion, theanine, gabapentin, etc) and while most have their place, nothing compares to benzos IMO. It would be great to have an effective product like this on the market.
Really wish they were offering samples for us to try... :
07-18-2007, 12:51 PM
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07-18-2007, 08:58 PM
I have not really looked into that compound as I had just assumed the main component was the 3-OH-GABA. I'll try to do a little research while I'm on a study "break" in the library this week.
Regardless, if the stuff works for me I'll be thrilled.
*EDIT - I'm assuming you've tried the product, care to elaborate on your experience? The more feedback the better IMO...
07-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Yeah, definitely tried it. Actually the owners, Dr.D, and myself have been testing this stuff and using it since like last August or September, especially the 3-OH-GABA, but we put it on the backburner for a really long time because of Epistane releasing and a few other things we were trying to accomplish first, so we definitely have A LOT of experience with it.
The 3-OH-GABA is interesting. If you don't already take a lot of GABA-agonists and your receptors are fresh then it will give you a great relaxing feeling even at somewhat lower dosages like 150mg. First couple times I talk it (consecutive nights) I felt completely relaxed and definitely didn't feel like moving, but the effect wore off after a few days and I had to take considerably higher dosages to get the relaxant effect. However, the interesting part about it was I still woke up more refreshed and each night, despite not having the relaxant effect my dreams were insane. Very lifelike dreams and when I woke up I always wondered if it was real or not for a minute or so. We knew we had a great product if we could find a relaxant to go with it.
Then when we got to test the NADA we fell in love. The feeling was very different from anything I've taken. Had kind of a strange feeling in the stomach, a lot like marijuana. Not as much of the crazy head feeling but lets not forget there are thousands of marijuana constituents so you won't get the entire feeling. Definitely very relaxed though. Every time I take it I really do want to go to bed. It isn't like melatonin to wear it just makes me yawn a lot then leaves me EXTREMELY drowsy in the morning. We decided to combine the ingredients so that you got the relaxant, anti-anxiety, and sleep inducing effects of the NADA, with the deep sleep and vivid dream effect caused by the 3-OH-GABA. We feel we have the perfect blend of both and it works really well. I absolutely love it.
07-18-2007, 11:41 PM
07-19-2007, 12:46 AM
Interesting observations on the NADA. I see the write-up claims that the NADA binds to the cannabinoid CB1 receptor...are you claiming that it is a CB1 agonist or antagonist? I'm curious as to what effects this compound has on hunger. An agonist would likely increase hunger (like THC) while an antagonist (like Rimonabant) would likely supress hunger. I'll try to do some reading on the compound myself tomorrow, but would like to hear what you guys have to say.
I'm looking forward to giving this one a shot...
07-19-2007, 12:58 AM
Actually, one more question:
I did a quick pubmed search here because I don't have access to medline unless I'm using the school computer...but anyways I couldn't find anything for N-arachidonyl-dopamine (which is in the writeup) but was able to find N-arachidonoyl-dopamine as a potent cannabinoid CB1 receptor agonist. I'm assuming they're the same thing, just want to confirm.
07-19-2007, 09:31 PM
FYI. I did not dose last night because i decided to try EOD. So tonight I will take 2 caps again and fill in the detals tomarrow.
07-20-2007, 04:55 AM
I decided to take 3 about 20 minutes ago so I will let yall know tomarrow morning or night depending on when I wake up....lol
07-20-2007, 10:52 AM
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07-21-2007, 01:21 AM
How soon after dosing do you fall asleep. I took and stayed up all night and didnt fall asleep. Just felt really good.
07-21-2007, 01:57 AM
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