H-drol + E-form: Recomp Log

[celc5]

Final Review is post #372 on page 13




Note: Post #2 is reserved for valuable information periodically updated,

Here goes my first cycle! My plan has been devised after approximately 8 months of studying. My immediate instinct when I found this board was to choose a Halo clone because of its mild nature and that it fit my recomp goals. I have had some truely awesome experiences cutting or bulking with formestane, which made E-form an easy choice for my stack.

I have to give MAJOR props to TheBigT and RisingAgainst for their help in devising my plan

Plan:

H-drol 50-75mg for 4-6 weeks
E-from 40-120mg TD (as tolerated)

post cycle therapy

Torem 120(90)/90/60/30 (abbreviated if appropriate)
MassFx 3/4/4/4+
Restore 1/2/3/3/2/1

Additional supps
Primaforce Cissus
Cycle Support
Omega 3's
Hawthorne Berry
TRAC Extreme NO (only as needed)
Multi

Diet
40/40/20
300/300/60 at ~3000 cal

Split:
Lats/Bis
Traps/Quads/Tris
Hams/Back/Bis
Chest/Shoulders/calves

*Splits are arranged to avoid irritation of a shoulder injury.
*Routine includes 1 power move at 5x5 followed by supersets in volume fashion.

3-4 days light cardio, swimming, abs

Supplement history:
6-oxo
E-form
Vitrix
JW, BAM, Restore
Creatines, Arginines, Fat burners

Questions, comments, criticism, suggestions, discussion, sarcasm, and wise-cracks are encouraged

[celc5]

Initial stats
194.4 pounds
16.49% body fat (7 point skinfold)

Initial Measurements
Chest 43"
Waist 36.75" holy crap I had no idea!
Bis (R) 16 (L) 15.5
Mid Thigh 23.5'' both sides

Initial Strength
Deadlift 335 x 5
Squat 285 x 4
Shrug 395 x 5
SLDL 320 x 5
BB Curl 85 x 5
Decline Bench 175 x 7
*compared to last winter's bulk, none of these are PR's

Goals
+6 pounds LBM, -6 pounds fat
Continue reasonable strength gains during body recomp

Significant Events:
Day 3: mild palpitations (Form)
Day 4: Fantastic Mood (Halo); rising libido (Form); mild vascularity (Form)
Day 5: Spurratic Blurred vision (Form)
Day 6-8: stomach virus lead to drop in 1/2 pound body weight
Day 9: extra rep per set, increased MMC (Halo); outrageous libido (Form)
Day 14: +2.2 pounds body weight, -2% body fat
Day 19: Questionable back pumps
Day 20: Increase in power on presses as per cycle goals
Day 27: lethargy, mild joint pain, and cramping force routine alterations
Day 28: +6.2 pounds (since beginning of cycle), -2.8% bf
Day 29: begin formestane taper, continue dosage with H-drol
Week 5: reduced pumps successfully with taurine and creatine, mild libido decrease noted, weight is up 2 pounds (although looking softer from the creatine)

[EctoPower]

Subscribed... with bells on.

The plan looks really good. With the kind of results you got on e-form alone, I can't imagine what's going to happen to you with H-drol in there.

Good luck man! Kick some ace!

[prld2gr8ns]

Looking good celc... maybe it's just me but I would save the TRAC for after cycle just to help with maintainence along with your other goodies.

I've heard about halo's leaning out effects, so the belly should really get some nice effects from this stack.

[celc5]

Ecto: I pre-loaded some extra hawthorne berry after the issues you had on cycle. I'll keep it going ON cycle and in pct.

Prld: Agreed with the gut. I'm thinking that maybe my measurements were skewed because my abs and obliques were pumped... ya, that's it pumped up abs

I usually just use the TRAC on Saturday mornings when I have my early workout for a jump start of sorts. On other days, I sip on aminos or whey during workout.

Day 1

50mg H-drol, 40mg TD form

Lats and Bis today: I purposely talked myself into a placebo affect because the weights have not been budging over the past few weeks. It got me an extra rep here and there but nothing spectacular.

[thebigt]

did you just start the form today? :donut:

[celc5]

Close with the donut T, but it should be more like

Yes sir, 25mg Hdrol with breakfast and 25 with lunch. 20mg TD formestane with morning shower, 20mg TD formestane with evening shower.

I plan to bump up the form to 40mg in the morning if I don't have problems sleeping tonight. I get palpitations sometimes if I increase the dosage too fast. Hey, I have 4-6 weeks to play with the dosage so I'm in no hurry.

[prld2gr8ns]

Lats and Bis today: I purposely talked myself into a placebo affect because the weights have not been budging over the past few weeks. It got me an extra rep here and there but nothing spectacular.

Mmmmmm, gotta love the power of placebo.... sometimes it works better then the supps themselves, which just makes them that more effective.

[thebigt]

last year when i ran hema/prop i had slight drop in libido around week 4. i wonder how much form will help with this. btw stopping my furazadrol after 2nd bottle. down 15 pounds in around a month,wow. will save 3rd bottle for another time.

[thebigt]

Mmmmmm, gotta love the power of placebo.... sometimes it works better then the supps themselves, which just makes them that more effective.

now you know that you get results on day1. he's a ph cherry, so we got to give him a hard time!

[celc5]

now you know that you get results on day1. he's a ph cherry, so we got to give him a hard time!

You mean I won't gain 5 pounds of lean mass by day 3?

T, you still feelin strong droppin weight that fast? Let me rephrase the question: Was the Furaz for keeping you strong while you cut? to help shed the weight? or both?

Diet check
271/236/59
I'll stick with this plan for a few days and gradually bump up the cals as long as my waisteline doesn't get any bigger.

[thebigt]

thats a good question. everytime ive done a ph ive gained 10lbs or more. that is why i wanted to try furazadrol, a chance to do a ph and get stronger and tone up without the weight gain. when i started dropping weight i just went with it. 15 pound weight loss and strength is the same. wow, i am happy. i hope you are as happy with your results as i am from mine. good luck.:burg:

[prld2gr8ns]

i wonder how much form will help with this.

I'd say around 100mg/day would keep the libido rockin for ya T.

[thebigt]

I'd say around 100mg/day would keep the libido rockin for ya T.

he's running close to the same stack i ran last year. i didnt run form with it and got the libido drop.

[celc5]

Ok kids, I seriously doubt libido is going to be an issue on this stack. I've broken some skinny girls IN HALF while on E-form and I haven't read about any libido issues with any halos run solo. Paravol and A36 are in the stash, just in case... T, you know how I like to plan

As a matter of fact, libido is slightly up and I've had some random wood today. E-form works FAST FAST FAST for me. It's been too long since I've used this stuff!

Day 2

50mg H-drol
60mg E-form

Slept like a rock last night. Probably cause I wore myself out getting so damm excited about the cycle. I noticed a very positive affect today, and curiously, an increase in pateince at work and while driving

I might need to pick up some more 45s cause I'm gonna get close to 500 on shrugs during this cycle I wish I was having the same problem with squats as I couldn't get focused when I went heavy today. It was a weird workout with some parts strong, and others lackluster.

[thebigt]

Ok kids, I seriously doubt libido is going to be an issue on this stack. I've broken some skinny girls IN HALF while on E-form and I haven't read about any libido issues with any halos run solo. Paravol and A36 are in the stash, just in case... T, you know how I like to plan

As a matter of fact, libido is slightly up and I've had some random wood today. E-form works FAST FAST FAST for me. It's been too long since I've used this stuff!

Day 2

50mg H-drol
60mg E-form

Slept like a rock last night. Probably cause I wore myself out getting so damm excited about the cycle. I noticed a very positive affect today, and curiously, an increase in pateince at work and while driving

I might need to pick up some more 45s cause I'm gonna get close to 500 on shrugs during this cycle I wish I was having the same problem with squats as I couldn't get focused when I went heavy today. It was a weird workout with some parts strong, and others lackluster.

i just got back from da website. man those guys are living in the stone age. one guy said just dump 2gms of form in a carrier and use 2 sprays everyday. i almost sh1t my pants. they dont even know what powerful is or what it does, one guy asked if it was a stim. now i got diarhea. thank GOD for am. formestane is king.

[celc5]

DAfan1: If I stack 17methyl-Ester-drol with Explode-Tech-Extreme, will novedex xt be enough for my pct?

[thebigt]

DAfan1: If I stack 17methyl-Ester-drol with Explode-Tech-Extreme, will novedex xt be enough for my post cycle therapy?

haha, damn barbarians. the reps run that web site. thank GOD we have celc and prid here at am, and neo to keep things light.

[prld2gr8ns]

i just got back from da website. man those guys are living in the stone age. one guy said just dump 2gms of form in a carrier and use 2 sprays everyday. i almost sh1t my pants. they dont even know what powerful is or what it does, one guy asked if it was a stim. now i got diarhea. thank GOD for am. formestane is king.

That got me man.... so much I bout sheet me britches.

[thebigt]

That got me man.... so much I bout sheet me britches.

those guys arent complete morons, i keep getting pm's wanting more info on formestane. yeehaw fresh meat.