- 06-18-2007, 05:30 PM
Week3: definitely feel it today. lots of aggression, focus, etc.
switched around my workouts b/c I have an exam, so I did chest on monday....
3 sets flat db 8-12 85x8 85x8 85x8
4 sets incline db 8-12 70x8 70x9 70x10 70x10
3 sets db fly 12 reps 40x12 40x12 40x12 easy
Pullover machine medium wt. x 20 medium wt. x 16
2 Sets BodyWeight Dips BWx8 BWx8
Cable Bar Curl 90x12 100x15 easy, nice pump, fast
Insane pump in my bi's, chest, tri's, delts. Amazing. Weight is about 183. Whatever gut I had is gone.
- 06-19-2007, 06:11 PM
Squat (belt) 265x8 265x6 265x6
Cable Pullthroughs w/ rope 80x20 80x20
Decline Crunches, Fast BWx20 BWx20
Guys, whats up with the lack of weight gain on this stuff?
Im eating the same I did on superdrol, and I gained about 17 lbs while on cycle with superdrol.
Should I throw in 20mg superdrol for the remaining 2 weeks? Serious question.
Is my pheravol defective/junk?
06-19-2007, 06:14 PM
up to 45 mgs a day...i am on 45mgs a day..phera plex and phera vol arent the same compound exactly it has 2 less ion's or something like that so i read you would need more to equal phera vol...just my 02. cents
06-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Is that safe for my weight? No sides that Ive noted so far. Blood pressure and heart rate are fine.
I appreciate the help. Would like some additional opinions. I got about 30 caps of superdrol sitting in my desk that I can always throw in. I was gonna run 4.5 weeks (the whole bottle) of the pvol.
I only weigh in the 180's so Im not a huge dude.
06-19-2007, 08:29 PM
yeah i did when i took it...i am just on carnage now though....i did every other day @ 45,30,45 etc.
06-19-2007, 10:07 PM
06-20-2007, 06:52 PM
day 18: took 3 pheras.
one in the morning, one before swimming, one after. (swam around 5pm). About 45 mg.
Swam 1/2 mile, about 35 minutes. Left rotator cuff gave me a bit of trouble but it kinda also helped it a little. Probably from doing a few pushpresses yesterday.
nice pump from swimming. Weight still the same, visibly leaner but I want the size, not the cuts.
06-21-2007, 06:43 PM
decided to throw some more power movements in since i got tired of working my lats today and I wanted to show off a bit
Curl Grip Chins BWx15 BWx15 BWx8
bent over row db 4 sets 8-12 100x12 100x12 100x12
front pulldown wide 3 sets 8-10 195x10 195x10 195x10
WSB Pin Pull 225x3 315x3 405x3 495x1 pretty easy 545x0 tired. no belt, no shoes, though i got yelled at after the 495.
hoping for a 455-495lb or more pull at my next pl comp.
06-21-2007, 07:47 PM
06-21-2007, 11:34 PM
Hey, just ride the cycle out. IMO, the swimming is probably causing you to burn most of the calories that you're taking in. IMO, its not the best thing to be doing when your your main intent is bulking. Did you do this while taking SD? I was just wondering, b/c I usually got cramps while taking SD and trying to run. I just figured it would have the same effect if a user would be using it while swimming. BTW, feel free to PM with any questions in the next ten days.
06-22-2007, 12:18 AM
yeah man. the strength gains are great. im starting to figure the stuff out and it definitely makes me feel good compared to superdrol.
Didnt do much cardio during superdrol. Actually trying to fix some high blood pressure and resting heart rate that came from not doing cardio all winter and doing superdrol in the early spring.
Cardio is really improving a lot.
Seems like Im mostly recomping. had me worried when I wasnt gaining mass but ive noticed increase in arm and chest size and definitely getting 10 lbs on most lifts each week.
06-22-2007, 04:08 PM
06-22-2007, 06:15 PM
3 sets CloseGrip Bench 8-10 145x10 155x9 165x3 175x3
3 sets Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 95x8
3 sets side laterals 10-12 25x12 25x12 25x12
3 sets rear lateral db 10-12 20x12 20x12
3 sets 10-15 bar cable pushdown 150x12 150x12 150x8
3 sets reversed cable push down (palms facing) 8-10 110x12 110x12 110x12
3 sets barbell curl 8-12 85x8 85x8 85x8 75x10
3 sets preacher db 8-12 35x10 35x10 35x10 short rest time
2 sets hammer curl db 10-15 27.5x10 27.5x10
enjoyed this workout a lot. strength gains for me kicked in around day 20 i think. close grip bench is finally getting back to where it used to be. Doing them with palms about 10" apart.
06-23-2007, 10:48 PM
did some gpp stuff with a 100 lb sandbag I rigged up. Goddamn this thing was heavy. Did some cleans, squats, stair climbing, presses.
real ***** to carry.
06-25-2007, 05:52 PM
week 4 begins...
Deadlift 135x5 225x5 315x5 405x4 hand rip 315x8
Hang Clean 135x8 135x8
Leg Press 200x8 290x8 380x8 560x8
Ab Machine Mediumx10 Mediumx10
weight: 182 this is really strange, but atleast lifts are going up nicely. Not doing that much cardio and Im eating my ass off.
06-25-2007, 08:10 PM
It sounds like your gaining fine. I wouldn't expect superdrol like gains from a phera product. I personallly never got superdrol or m1t gains off of phera or ergo. I hear est is a very reputable company and I'm actually about to start methyl xt. Most that have tried feel it is as good if not better than superdrol. For some reason though its not very popular.
06-26-2007, 05:55 PM
Dumbbell Bench 90x6* 85x9 85x8 *used a spotter, spotter sucked. Had him help with the first rep, then did the rest myself
Incline DB 70x9 70x9 70x10 70x9
Dumbbell Fly 40x14 40x14 40x14
Nautilus Pullover Mediumx20
Nautilus Fly Mediumx12
Bodyweight Dips BWx10 BWx6 Pumped
Cable Curl 100x15 fast 100x15 slow
weight: 181 LOL
Happy to get a few reps with the 90 lber's. Rom wasnt super great on these but passable. Gonna go back to 85's next week and do high reps with nice deep rom.
06-27-2007, 11:00 AM
06-27-2007, 11:36 AM
06-27-2007, 01:24 PM
Anyway, in reference to your weight--->It's not changing, but how do you look in the mirror in comparison to when you started?
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
06-27-2007, 07:22 PM
yeah im not too concerned about weight now that I repped 90's.
Swam a little less than a half mile today, about 25 mins solid swimming. Shoulder and lats felt a little sore from yesterday and I want to have some left in the tank for the rest of the week.
Ate a massive 12" sub and some junk from subway as my post workout meal.
I havent done high volume in a long time, so this is a welcome change. I was doing 3 sets of 5 reps with heavy ass weights on most exercises before, which gave me a really nice 1rm but not much aesthetic-wise.
06-28-2007, 05:53 PM
bodyweight pullups 4 sets upto 15 BWx15 BWx15 BWx8
bent over row db 4 sets 8-12 110x10 110x10 110x10
front pulldown wide 3 sets 8-10 210x8 210x8 210x8
cable row 3 sets 6-10 180x8 180x8 180x8
Hang Clean 115x8 115x8
Wow. What a workout. Felt like I was on cheque drops or something I was so aggressive in there. Almost zero rest times, just moved with focus from exercise to exercise. Just got so pissed and crazy. Expected myself to start frothing from the mouth or something.
Took the pill an hour before workout today, considerng taking another bringing it to 45 mgs.
Should I go a 5th week? I have enough left. Just don't want to have any shutdown issues. I have nolva and Im waiting on an order of clomid. Its getting the to the point where I need to start deciding when to end and what protocal to use coming off.
I have enough nolva to do 30/20/20, and I should have some clomid soon.
Any thoughts? Suggestions? I think today was the first day I truly felt the power of this stuff and Im coming up on the end of week 4.
06-29-2007, 09:30 AM
good job so far, I'm watching this closely, planning on doing a similar cycle very soon. How has libido been?
06-29-2007, 06:20 PM
Close Grip Bench 165x6 175x3 185x2+1
Side Laterals 25x10
Rear Laterals 20x10
Bradford Press 115x5 95x6
Tricep Pushdown 160x15 140x15 140x12
Reverse Tricep Pushdown 100x12 100x12 100x12
Barbell Curl 85x10 85x6
Preacher Dumbbell Curl 35x10 35x10 35x10
workout was very short and very fast, only a half hour long, pretty painful oh well. Triceps and wrists feel real sore. I hate getting to the gym right before closing.
I've been thinking about it and Ill just run it through tuesday and then go into post cycle therapy, so it will be 4 weeks +2 days. That way Ill get my chest workout done.
For post cycle therapy, Ill do nolva, probably do 40 mg the first day and 30 the remaining week. 20 mg the second and third and 10mg the fourth.
06-30-2007, 06:34 PM
Saturday: More gpp ****
100 lb Sandbag carry on back for a 1/4 mile, 5 mins timed
100 lb Sandbag clean and press
100 lb Sandbag squat, either shoulder, and back
100 lb Sandbag floor press
07-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Dumbbell Bench 85x12 85x12 90x7
Incline DB 70x5 70x5 65x12 65x12 the 70's were really hard
Dumbbell Fly 40x12 40x12 40x12
Pec Dec Fly Hardx10 Hardx10
Nautilus Fly Mediumx12
Bodyweight Dips BWX10 BWx6
Cable Curl 100x15 100x15
Machine Crunch Mediumx20 Mediumx12 Mediumx8
This may be my last day of pheravol. I think this is day 30.
Any advice? Finish week 5 and start pct or start pct tomorrow? Serious question here. I have not felt any serious problems so far other than im thirsty, and the few aggression times.
07-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Well Im doing till the end of week 5 (stopping tomorrow) and then doing nolva.
I missed my leg workout because I was travelling and I am home from college, so I am at a ymca. Some of the equipment is a bit different so the weights are gonna be different from before, but Im trying to keep it as similar as possible.
Pullups BWx12 BWx12 BWx8
Dumbbell Row 110x12 110x10 110x10
Lat Pulldown 210x12 210x12 210x12 Full ROM, Maxed, Easy, YMCA cable machines have lighter stacks
Horizontal HammerStrength Row 180x10 270x6 230x10 230x10 last two sets are hard, heavy
Behind neck pulldown 180x15 190x15
Decline Crunches BWx40
07-07-2007, 11:29 AM
Close Grip Bench 165x7 175x5 185x4
Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 95x8
Side Laterals 25x10 25x10 25x10
Rear Laterals 15x12 15x12 15x12
Tricep Pushdown 140x12 160x10 140x12 ymca machine
Reverse Tricep Pushdown 100x12 100x12 100x12
Barbell Curl 75x10 75x10 85x6 90x4
Preacher Dumbbell Curl 35x10 35x10 35x10 no rest, each arm
Dumbbell Floor Press 60x10
Barbell Shrugs 225x8 225x8
07-07-2007, 11:36 AM
So I finished taking it on friday, and I just started nolva. 30 mgs for the next 2-3 weeks and then taper it down to 20-10, depending on how much is left in the bottle.
Heres my review, 1 being lowest, 10 being highest
2/10 (very dry)
Main side I started to notice around week 4 through the end of week 5 was chest hair and facial hair started coming in. I already could grow a beard, but now it comes much quicker and fuller, so I gotta shave more often I guess. Also I didnt have much chest hair before but now I have more between my pecs and on my belly, its not too bad.
Hopefully some of the hair will go away as post cycle therapy goes through I guess, not to worried about it as long as it doesnt get on my back or disapear from my head.
Didnt gain much size or weight but definitely gained on my lifts.
Id recommend this supp for anyone who wants to preserve muscle on a cut, as it doesnt seem to retain water and the gains it gives seem very quality and lean.
This will probably be my last ph run for the next year or two.
edit: oh yeah, I got some chicks number by flexin at her at the lake lol.
07-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Dumbbell Bench 90x7 85x11 85x4
Incline DB 70x8 70x8 70x8
Dumbbell Fly 35x14 35x14 35x14
Pec Dec Fly 70lbx12
Bodyweight Dips BWx12 BWx10
Cable Curl 100x15 100x15
Dumbbell bench wasnt what I expected but I did it right after a 10 hour shift so I was pretty beat.
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