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    yeah man. the strength gains are great. im starting to figure the stuff out and it definitely makes me feel good compared to superdrol.

    Didnt do much cardio during superdrol. Actually trying to fix some high blood pressure and resting heart rate that came from not doing cardio all winter and doing superdrol in the early spring.
    Cardio is really improving a lot.

    Seems like Im mostly recomping. had me worried when I wasnt gaining mass but ive noticed increase in arm and chest size and definitely getting 10 lbs on most lifts each week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Variocam View Post
    yeah man. the strength gains are great. im starting to figure the stuff out and it definitely makes me feel good compared to superdrol.

    Didnt do much cardio during superdrol. Actually trying to fix some high blood pressure and resting heart rate that came from not doing cardio all winter and doing superdrol in the early spring.
    Cardio is really improving a lot.

    Seems like Im mostly recomping. had me worried when I wasnt gaining mass but ive noticed increase in arm and chest size and definitely getting 10 lbs on most lifts each week.
    From what I have always heard the Superdrol compound does put on a lot of water and Pheravol gave dry lean muscle gains, contact myself or Solomon for your next cycle and we'll get you a nice stack of our products. Keep up the hard work though, strength gains are looking good!
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    day 20
    Friday: shoulders/arm
    3 sets CloseGrip Bench 8-10 145x10 155x9 165x3 175x3
    3 sets Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 95x8
    3 sets side laterals 10-12 25x12 25x12 25x12
    3 sets rear lateral db 10-12 20x12 20x12
    tris
    3 sets 10-15 bar cable pushdown 150x12 150x12 150x8
    3 sets reversed cable push down (palms facing) 8-10 110x12 110x12 110x12
    bis
    3 sets barbell curl 8-12 85x8 85x8 85x8 75x10
    3 sets preacher db 8-12 35x10 35x10 35x10 short rest time
    2 sets hammer curl db 10-15 27.5x10 27.5x10
    weight: 183

    enjoyed this workout a lot. strength gains for me kicked in around day 20 i think. close grip bench is finally getting back to where it used to be. Doing them with palms about 10" apart.
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    Day 21
    did some gpp stuff with a 100 lb sandbag I rigged up. Goddamn this thing was heavy. Did some cleans, squats, stair climbing, presses.


    real ***** to carry.
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    day 23
    week 4 begins...
    Monday: Legs
    Deadlift 135x5 225x5 315x5 405x4 hand rip 315x8
    Hang Clean 135x8 135x8
    Leg Press 200x8 290x8 380x8 560x8
    Ab Machine Mediumx10 Mediumx10

    weight: 182 this is really strange, but atleast lifts are going up nicely. Not doing that much cardio and Im eating my ass off.
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    It sounds like your gaining fine. I wouldn't expect superdrol like gains from a phera product. I personallly never got superdrol or m1t gains off of phera or ergo. I hear est is a very reputable company and I'm actually about to start methyl xt. Most that have tried feel it is as good if not better than superdrol. For some reason though its not very popular.
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    day 24
    Tuesday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 90x6* 85x9 85x8 *used a spotter, spotter sucked. Had him help with the first rep, then did the rest myself
    Incline DB 70x9 70x9 70x10 70x9
    Dumbbell Fly 40x14 40x14 40x14
    Nautilus Pullover Mediumx20
    Nautilus Fly Mediumx12
    Bodyweight Dips BWx10 BWx6 Pumped
    Cable Curl 100x15 fast 100x15 slow
    weight: 181 LOL

    Happy to get a few reps with the 90 lber's. Rom wasnt super great on these but passable. Gonna go back to 85's next week and do high reps with nice deep rom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Variocam View Post
    day 24
    Tuesday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 90x6* 85x9 85x8 *used a spotter, spotter sucked. Had him help with the first rep, then did the rest myself
    Incline DB 70x9 70x9 70x10 70x9
    Dumbbell Fly 40x14 40x14 40x14
    Nautilus Pullover Mediumx20
    Nautilus Fly Mediumx12
    Bodyweight Dips BWx10 BWx6 Pumped
    Cable Curl 100x15 fast 100x15 slow
    weight: 181 LOL

    Happy to get a few reps with the 90 lber's. Rom wasnt super great on these but passable. Gonna go back to 85's next week and do high reps with nice deep rom.
    Just curious why you keep reps so high on a bulk? IMO, if you really want to pack on mass id go with a 12, 8, 6, 4 or 10, 8, 6, 4 rep schema. It lets you push more weight and grow bigger.
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    I normally train low reps and this is sort of a break for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshbomb View Post
    Just curious why you keep reps so high on a bulk? IMO, if you really want to pack on mass id go with a 12, 8, 6, 4 or 10, 8, 6, 4 rep schema. It lets you push more weight and grow bigger.
    When I first changed to this routine people accused me of using roids...AND I WASN'T ON ANYTHING. I was probably just seeing results b/c I was changing things up from a stale routine.

    Anyway, in reference to your weight--->It's not changing, but how do you look in the mirror in comparison to when you started?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Anyway, in reference to your weight--->It's not changing, but how do you look in the mirror in comparison to when you started?
    badass. got a 4-pack most of the time as opposed to a no-pack.


    yeah im not too concerned about weight now that I repped 90's.


    Swam a little less than a half mile today, about 25 mins solid swimming. Shoulder and lats felt a little sore from yesterday and I want to have some left in the tank for the rest of the week.
    Ate a massive 12" sub and some junk from subway as my post workout meal.

    I havent done high volume in a long time, so this is a welcome change. I was doing 3 sets of 5 reps with heavy ass weights on most exercises before, which gave me a really nice 1rm but not much aesthetic-wise.
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    day 26
    Thursday: back
    bodyweight pullups 4 sets upto 15 BWx15 BWx15 BWx8
    bent over row db 4 sets 8-12 110x10 110x10 110x10
    front pulldown wide 3 sets 8-10 210x8 210x8 210x8
    cable row 3 sets 6-10 180x8 180x8 180x8
    Hang Clean 115x8 115x8
    weight: 181


    Wow. What a workout. Felt like I was on cheque drops or something I was so aggressive in there. Almost zero rest times, just moved with focus from exercise to exercise. Just got so pissed and crazy. Expected myself to start frothing from the mouth or something.
    Took the pill an hour before workout today, considerng taking another bringing it to 45 mgs.


    Should I go a 5th week? I have enough left. Just don't want to have any shutdown issues. I have nolva and Im waiting on an order of clomid. Its getting the to the point where I need to start deciding when to end and what protocal to use coming off.

    I have enough nolva to do 30/20/20, and I should have some clomid soon.

    Any thoughts? Suggestions? I think today was the first day I truly felt the power of this stuff and Im coming up on the end of week 4.
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    good job so far, I'm watching this closely, planning on doing a similar cycle very soon. How has libido been?
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    Friday: Arms
    Close Grip Bench 165x6 175x3 185x2+1
    Side Laterals 25x10
    Rear Laterals 20x10
    Bradford Press 115x5 95x6
    Tricep Pushdown 160x15 140x15 140x12
    Reverse Tricep Pushdown 100x12 100x12 100x12
    Barbell Curl 85x10 85x6
    Preacher Dumbbell Curl 35x10 35x10 35x10

    workout was very short and very fast, only a half hour long, pretty painful oh well. Triceps and wrists feel real sore. I hate getting to the gym right before closing.
    weight: 183


    Quote Originally Posted by scorpiond View Post
    good job so far, I'm watching this closely, planning on doing a similar cycle very soon. How has libido been?
    24/7 boner.


    I've been thinking about it and Ill just run it through tuesday and then go into post cycle therapy, so it will be 4 weeks +2 days. That way Ill get my chest workout done.

    For post cycle therapy, Ill do nolva, probably do 40 mg the first day and 30 the remaining week. 20 mg the second and third and 10mg the fourth.
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    Saturday: More gpp ****
    100 lb Sandbag carry on back for a 1/4 mile, 5 mins timed
    100 lb Sandbag clean and press
    100 lb Sandbag squat, either shoulder, and back
    100 lb Sandbag floor press
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    Monday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 85x12 85x12 90x7
    Incline DB 70x5 70x5 65x12 65x12 the 70's were really hard
    Dumbbell Fly 40x12 40x12 40x12
    Pec Dec Fly Hardx10 Hardx10
    Nautilus Fly Mediumx12
    Bodyweight Dips BWX10 BWx6
    Cable Curl 100x15 100x15
    Machine Crunch Mediumx20 Mediumx12 Mediumx8
    weight: 181


    This may be my last day of pheravol. I think this is day 30.

    Any advice? Finish week 5 and start pct or start pct tomorrow? Serious question here. I have not felt any serious problems so far other than im thirsty, and the few aggression times.
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    Well Im doing till the end of week 5 (stopping tomorrow) and then doing nolva.

    I missed my leg workout because I was travelling and I am home from college, so I am at a ymca. Some of the equipment is a bit different so the weights are gonna be different from before, but Im trying to keep it as similar as possible.

    Thursday: Back
    Pullups BWx12 BWx12 BWx8
    Dumbbell Row 110x12 110x10 110x10
    Lat Pulldown 210x12 210x12 210x12 Full ROM, Maxed, Easy, YMCA cable machines have lighter stacks

    Horizontal HammerStrength Row 180x10 270x6 230x10 230x10 last two sets are hard, heavy
    Behind neck pulldown 180x15 190x15
    Decline Crunches BWx40
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    last day...
    Friday: Arms
    Close Grip Bench 165x7 175x5 185x4
    Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 95x8
    Side Laterals 25x10 25x10 25x10
    Rear Laterals 15x12 15x12 15x12
    Tricep Pushdown 140x12 160x10 140x12 ymca machine
    Reverse Tricep Pushdown 100x12 100x12 100x12
    Barbell Curl 75x10 75x10 85x6 90x4
    Preacher Dumbbell Curl 35x10 35x10 35x10 no rest, each arm
    Dumbbell Floor Press 60x10
    Barbell Shrugs 225x8 225x8
    weight: 180-182ish
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    So I finished taking it on friday, and I just started nolva. 30 mgs for the next 2-3 weeks and then taper it down to 20-10, depending on how much is left in the bottle.

    Heres my review, 1 being lowest, 10 being highest
    Weight gain:
    3/10
    Strength gain:
    7/10
    Size gain:
    5/10
    Fat loss:
    4/10
    Side Effects:
    4/10
    Water Retention:
    2/10 (very dry)

    Main side I started to notice around week 4 through the end of week 5 was chest hair and facial hair started coming in. I already could grow a beard, but now it comes much quicker and fuller, so I gotta shave more often I guess. Also I didnt have much chest hair before but now I have more between my pecs and on my belly, its not too bad.

    Hopefully some of the hair will go away as post cycle therapy goes through I guess, not to worried about it as long as it doesnt get on my back or disapear from my head.

    Didnt gain much size or weight but definitely gained on my lifts.
    Id recommend this supp for anyone who wants to preserve muscle on a cut, as it doesnt seem to retain water and the gains it gives seem very quality and lean.

    This will probably be my last ph run for the next year or two.

    edit: oh yeah, I got some chicks number by flexin at her at the lake lol.
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    Monday
    Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 90x7 85x11 85x4
    Incline DB 70x8 70x8 70x8
    Dumbbell Fly 35x14 35x14 35x14
    Pec Dec Fly 70lbx12
    Bodyweight Dips BWx12 BWx10
    Cable Curl 100x15 100x15

    Dumbbell bench wasnt what I expected but I did it right after a 10 hour shift so I was pretty beat.
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    Tuesday: Legs
    Squat 225x5 275x5 295x3 305x2 pr
    Goodmorning 135x10
    Leg Press 450x12 540x12 630x8
    Leg Extension 130x12 130x12 130x12
    db stiff leg deadlift 80'sx12 80'sx12

    should give me like a 425ish competition squat easily when I get my new squat suit.
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    broke my foot a day ago, and its been hell. Missed my back workout, and getting up all 3-4 flights of stairs to my room and back on crutches is a workout in itself.

    I got someone to drive me to the gym, which is not handicapped accessible. Somehow got downstairs to the weight room on crutches and got a decent arm workout in:


    Friday: Arms
    Close Grip Bench 135x8 155x5 160x5 175x3 180x3 180x3
    Seated DB Side Laterals 25x12 25x12 25x12
    Machine Tricep Extension 50x12 50x12 50x12 50x12
    Preacher Dumbbell Curl 40x12 40x12 40x12 40x12

    CG bench had no leg power at all, so its a solid workout. Did everything seated but the cg's


    i should also add that im almost done my first week of post cycle therapy, with 30 mg nolva each day. my nads are hooooge. I dont think they were this big before I started lol.
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    Monday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 85x10 85x8 85x6 can't use my legs so its hard as hell, just to even get the db's on my legs
    IsoLateral Chest Press 45x12 80x12 80x8 80x6 80x6 (weight per side)
    Dumbbell Fly 40x15 40x15 40x15
    One Arm Dumbbell Press 40x15 just to get a nice finish
    Dumbbell Preacher Curl 40x12 40x12 40x12 no rest, just one arm, other arm, repeat
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    Man bro you're a trooper still hitting the gym with a broken foot! Sorry to hear about that, keep up the hard work though!!
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    Wednesday: Back
    Pullups BWx8 BWx8 BWx8
    Dumbbell Row 110x10 110x10 110x10
    Isolateral Back Row 90x6 80x12 80x12 80x12
    Horizontal HammerStrength Row 90x12 90x12 90x12
    Behind neck pulldown 190x15 170x15
    Leg Extension Lightx20 mediumx12 a few single leg alternating 12 reps
    Leg Curl Lightx12 alternating a few

    leg strength is still pretty good, just gonna do a few maintenance leg extensions and curls after every workout.

    they put me in a sandal type thing so i can sort of walk on it and thankfully drive my car.
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    Thursday: did some recumbent stationary biking, 30 mins, 150 hbpm.

    and a few abs and medicine ball stuff.

    foot is recovering nicely, hopefully be squatting in 2 weeks.

    Peravol seems to be almost out of my system, Im feeling sore again for the first time in awhile. Still weigh about 180.


    edit: got my bp checked, 125/80. Going to get my rhr checked later when I can find my heart rate band. Its probably high 50's.
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    I didn't see anything mentioned in your log, but did you have any 'hair' issues with pheravol?

    Thanks.

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    EDIT: Reread your log and saw that it actually increased your body hair but didn't touch your head. Good to hear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xodus View Post
    I didn't see anything mentioned in your log, but did you have any 'hair' issues with pheravol?

    Thanks.

    X

    EDIT: Reread your log and saw that it actually increased your body hair but didn't touch your head. Good to hear...
    yeah, I just used nizoral every/every other day in a small amount, rubbed it in good. thankfully I have light bodyhair anyway, so I dont look like a gorilla, and as long as its not on my back...


    Friday: Arms
    Close Grip Bench 135x5 155x3 180x5 190x3 135x8 pr
    Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 95x8
    Side Laterals 25x10 25x8 25x8
    Rear Laterals 20x8 20x8 20x8
    Tricep Pushdown 150x10 150x10 150x10
    Reverse Tricep Pushdown 100x10 100x10 100x10
    Barbell Curl 85x10 85x10 85x6
    Preacher Dumbbell Curl 45x6 45x6 45x6
    Cable Curl 100x15 100x10

    Got a PR on the CG bench. Pretty happy where it is going, as my lockout on barbell is really bad and training heavy on stuff like board presses (supra-maximal partial movements) just causes me to overtrain hard.

    Got my feet locked down real hard and got a nice curve in my mid-upper back. I need to get a bench shirt soon so I can train for it.

    I might give up on westside and stick with this split routine all the time, its giving me better gains.
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    started a EC stack, 200 mgs caffiene, 25 mg ephedrine at breakfast and at lunch. Will probably only do this on workout days.
    if i start losing strength (im keeping diet the same), ill stop it.

    Sunday:
    30 mins cardio on a recumbent exercise bike, around 150 bpm, about 90-120 rpm, Hill climb intervals.

    30 decline crunches, 30 barbell good mornings (45 lbs), a few medicine ball throws.
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    25 mgs of ephedrine today with a few cups of coffee, gonna do 25 on lifting days, 50 on cardio days (once, twice a week), and 0 on off days.

    The water weight and some fat really stripped off me this weekend. I was about 183 on wednesday and really soft looking, now Im about 175-178ish and almost to a 6 pack (visible when flexed). Strength is still the same.

    Monday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 85x10 85x10 85x10 fairly easy, nice
    One Arm DB Press 65x8 each side , this helped exhaust fibers and so on.
    Incline DB 65x5 55x10 55x10
    Dumbbell Fly 40x12 40x12 40x12
    Dips BWx12 BWx8
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    Wednesday: Back
    Pullups - Hammer Chins - Curl Chins BWx8 BWx8 BWx8
    Dumbbell Row 110x10 110x10 110x10
    Lat Pulldown 200x15 200x15 200x15
    Horizontal HammerStrength Row 90x12 90x12 90x12
    Seated Good Morning 135x15 185x12 185x10
    Behind neck pulldown 190x15 170x15
    Decline Situps 45x20 BWx20 45x15

    long workout, about an hour or so, but really good. Im about 175 now, so Ive lost about 8 lbs in the past week and my strength is still going up. Small amounts of ephedrine and two cardio days a week must be doing it. Im still as large as I was at 185 but weigh less on the scale and no gut .
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    Friday: Arms
    Close Grip Bench 135x5 155x3 185x4+1 175x5 135x8
    Bradford Press 95x8 95x8 135x5
    Side Laterals 25x10 25x10 25x10
    Rear Laterals 15x12 15x12 15x12
    Tricep Pushdown 155x10 155x10 155x10
    Reverse Tricep Pushdown 110x12 110x12 110x12
    Barbell Curl 75x12 80x10 80x8
    Barbell Zercher Squat 135x12 135x8
    Preacher Dumbbell Curl 40x10 40x10 40x10 non stop alternating
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    Monday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 90x6 90x7 90x7 solid
    Incline DB 65x10 65x8 65x8
    Flat DB Fly 40x15 40x15
    One Arm DB Press 80x3 **** this is hard.
    DB Elbows Out Tricep (Tate) 30x20 30x15
    Dips BWx12 BWx12
    Hang Clean 135x5 foot is feeling fairly solid but this was still a dumb idea.

    notes: gonna alternate between 85's and 90's on the db presses each week until im solidly doing 90x10 for 3 sets. Insane pump. Im very happy with where im going on chest day. I can't wait till im pressing the 100's (hopefully by october).

    I ran out of nolva, so Im gonna basically continue eating fairly big and clean, sleeping heavy, and not drinking. I think PCT is basically over. Balls are big, workouts are amazing, got nice drive, aggression, etc.

    I would recommend this prohormone product for any powerlifter who wants to gain strength with minimal weight gain and minimal side effects or for anyone who wants to cut up a bit.

    Im not sure how much longer ill continue this log. This is the start of the 4th week of post cycle therapy, and I am STILL making insane PR's each week. Ive done a bit of cutting to lose some of my bulk fat and Im still holding above 180. Time to get a new squat suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Variocam View Post
    Monday: Chest
    Dumbbell Bench 90x6 90x7 90x7 solid
    Incline DB 65x10 65x8 65x8
    Flat DB Fly 40x15 40x15
    One Arm DB Press 80x3 **** this is hard.
    DB Elbows Out Tricep (Tate) 30x20 30x15
    Dips BWx12 BWx12
    Hang Clean 135x5 foot is feeling fairly solid but this was still a dumb idea.

    notes: gonna alternate between 85's and 90's on the db presses each week until im solidly doing 90x10 for 3 sets. Insane pump. Im very happy with where im going on chest day. I can't wait till im pressing the 100's (hopefully by october).

    I ran out of nolva, so Im gonna basically continue eating fairly big and clean, sleeping heavy, and not drinking. I think post cycle therapy is basically over. Balls are big, workouts are amazing, got nice drive, aggression, etc.

    I would recommend this prohormone product for any powerlifter who wants to gain strength with minimal weight gain and minimal side effects or for anyone who wants to cut up a bit.

    Im not sure how much longer ill continue this log. This is the start of the 4th week of post cycle therapy, and I am STILL making insane PR's each week. Ive done a bit of cutting to lose some of my bulk fat and Im still holding above 180. Time to get a new squat suit.

    sounds good bro.

    if u can do 90x5 or better then 100x2 should be ez. gluck
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    Last Post: 11-02-2002, 04:10 PM

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