12 week pulse...I take my Havoc & Cissus-Drol with Distilled Water

[Distilled Water]

Hello ereybody, Distilled Water here. I will be doing a 12 week pulse cycle using RPN Havoc (sorry epistane you were outta stock everywhere). I will also be running Generic Labz Cissus-Drol for the last 8 weeks of my cylce/p.c.t. Heres how she'll go........

Week 1: 1/2/3
Week 2: 3/3/3
Week 3: 4/4/4
Week 4: 4/5/5

Week 5: 200 mg Transdermal Formestane
-Day1-2: 90mg Torm, Day3: 60mg Torm
Week 6: 200 mg Transdermal Formestane
*3 Anabolic Pump Daily

Week 7: 2/3/3....2 Retain 2 on OFF days
Week 8: 4/4/4....2 Retain 2 on OFF days

Week 9-10: Cissus-Drol
-Day1-2: 90mg Torm, Day3: 60mg Torm
*3 anabolic Pump Daily

Week 11: 3/3/4.... 2 Retain 2 on OFF days & Cissus-Drol
Week 12: 5/5/5....2 Retain 2 on OFF days & Cissus-Drol

Week 13: 120mg Torm (3 days), 90mg Torm (4 days), ZMA, Cissus-Drol, 3 Retain2
Week 14: 60mg Torm, ZMA, Cissus-Drol, 2 Retain2
Week 15: 30mg Torm, ZMA,Cissus-Drol , 2 Retain 2
Week 16: 30mg Torm (if needed), Cissus-Drol, 1 Retain 2
*Anabolic Pump all P.C.T & maybe New Powerfull (if I have the money)

Yes I've flip-floped a few times about what to use on off weeks, but I just found some Transdermal Formestane with just enough for the 2 off weeks in my "goodies" box. Also i have been picked to log the new Cissus-Drol from Generic Labz w/ my pulse


Diet will be 40/40/20 (P/C/F)for the 1st 10 weeks.....then if needed will change to 50/30/20.

Planned Diet Breakdown:
Week 1-2: 3,200 cals @ ~320/320/70
Week 3-4: 3,500 cals @ ~350/350/75
Week 5-6: 3,750 cals @ ~375/375/85
Week 7-8: 4,000 cals @ ~400/400/90
Week 9-10: 4,250 cals @ ~425/425/95

*I imagine it will be tough for me too eat more cals than this per day without gaining much fat so I will lower cals back to 4,000 and go 50/30/20 and stil add lean mass slowly while slowly burning excess fat.

Week 11-15: 4,000 cals @ ~500 /300/90

Training Split :
Week 1-4:
Mon: Chest/claves
Tue: Legs/abs
Wed: Shoulders/calves
Thur: Back/abs
Fri: Arms/calves
SAT & SUN:OFF

Week 5-8:
Mon: Legs/Abs
Tue:Chest/calves
Wed: Back/abs
Thur:Shoulders/calves
Fri: Arms/abbs
SAT & SUN:OFF

Week 9-12:
Mon: Chest/calves
Tue: Back/abs
Wed: Legs
Thur: Shoulders/calves
Fri: Tri's/abs
Sat: Bi's
Sun:OFF

Week 13-15:

Not sure yet

Im going to try and get blookwork ASAP, ut my insurance company are beeing huge A holes about paying for my bloodwork and I dont have an extra $150 to spend on it right now. I will post later 2nite with measurements and weights (im @ work right now)

Goals:
This is a 16 week "cylce" remember. Im looking to add 30lbs. (shoot high). If i lose bodyfat great but I dont care about loseing any just keeping it about where it's @ right now, Between 9-11%. Sorry I cant do pictures, the 3 year old wanted to see how far he could twist the digital camera screen til it would break and well thats what happend. I'll try to get a hold of my lil bro and get his......

Thanks for joining me as Im sure im the 1st person to log this type of cycle, I will give it 100% to insure you guys of the best possible info.

[Distilled Water]

Weight:182lbs

Took 10mg Havoc pre-workout with a shake and sweet potatos and 5mg Creatine Mono and 100mg caffeine for a little pick me up.

Machine Flyes:
140 @15
160 @ 12
180 @ 10
180 @ 9

Decline Bench Smith Machine (*If bar was 45lbs):
225 @ 8
205 @ 10
185 @ 12
135 @ 15

Incline DB Bench
80 @ 8
75 @ 10
70 @ 12

Flat DB Bench:
80 @ 8
75 @ 9
70 @ 11

Notes: Not much, great pump in the gym though. Too early to tell. Diet was Sh*t 2day, due to wakeing up 35min late and starting my new job.

*I'll weigh in every sunday. I'll post measurements 2maro morning for every body also.

[Travis]

Wow, havent posted it yet but I am planning a very similar cycle with TD Form and Havoc. I however will not be pulsing it. And I think I am going to dose the havoc relatively high. I also have another trick up my sleeve but I'll post that in a log later.

Good luck, lookin forward to seein your progress. BTW how tall are you and what body type (ecto/meso/etc.)?

[DR.D]

I'm with ya!

[marshbomb]

Im doing something very similar with Havoc/Superdrol and transdermal Form and I am pulsing also. I am also using Retain2, leviathon and RPM. Im doing it for more of a cut though as I am carb cycling and keeping cals low during the week with carbups on weekends.

[Distilled Water]

Ok im 5'8" maybe 5'9". Im not sure because on my roster im listed @ 5'11" or 6'0" My body type is endo/meso. I tend to put on muscle easily and get stronger easily also, but with the muscle comes a bit of fat. I have to watch my diet about 70% to stay lean, im probably like 60% endo/40%meso

Measurement time.........

Arms are cold unflexed and straight
Right: 14"
Left: 14 1/8"
R-forearm: 12 1/4"
L-forearm 12"

Chest: 43 1/4"
Waist: 32"

Leg 3" above knee unflexed cold
Right:20 1/2"
Left:21"
R-Thigh: 24 1/4"
L-Thigh: 23 3/4"
R-calf: 15"
L-calf: 15 1/4"

Abbs:Not bad, all 6 are visable. When I do a little "pull down" they look real sweet...lol

wow, what weird measurements on my legs, eh? I also have a very small case of pubertal gyno stil also. Very small lumps, a lil case of puffy nipps, but no pain.

I would also like to note I lost about 20+lbs during my season (3months total). Its amazeing what only eating @ 9am and 7pm for 2 months straight will do to someone, im surprised i only lost that much. So if you look at my bulking log, dont scratch your head @ why i didnt keep my gains or whatever you want to think. I retained them as well as anyone could

[djremix]

Great looking pulse going there.
good luck with it :-)

a quick trick for getting free bloodwork. go to your GP and complain of lower back pains and fatigue, tell him you also have a yellow tinted vision.

hell freak and think your liver is acting up and order some liver test. at that point you should insist to do full panel just in case.

this will hopefully help with insurance?

[Distilled Water]

Great looking pulse going there.
good luck with it :-)

a quick trick for getting free bloodwork. go to your GP and complain of lower back pains and fatigue, tell him you also have a yellow tinted vision.

hell freak and think your liver is acting up and order some liver test. at that point you should insist to do full panel just in case.

this will hopefully help with insurance?

WOW, great idea...lol kinda sleezy but good idea none the less. I dont think I can though the Dr. I go to is very by the book and my mom has been working for him for almost 10 years and he's close with the family....but ahh what the hell I stil may try it

[pistonpump]

ive been watching all along...

so you only dose havoc on workout days?

excited about that cissus-drol i would run it but its kinda steep for me right now. I need to save money for my project car and a guitar.

i think its kinda weird youre running torem for 3 days a week, why not run it 3 days in week 6 as well. care to explain?

If this pulsing stuff really works i expect youll meet your goals. just stay focused bro.

[Distilled Water]

ive been watching all along...

so you only dose havoc on workout days?

excited about that cissus-drol i would run it but its kinda steep for me right now. I need to save money for my project car and a guitar.

i think its kinda weird youre running torem for 3 days a week, why not run it 3 days in week 6 as well. care to explain?

If this pulsing stuff really works i expect youll meet your goals. just stay focused bro.

I workout 5 days a week and take havoc Mon/Wed/Fri.

Yea the Cissuc-Drol should be great. I know its steep right now bt give it time and it'll come down. Remember how inexpensive the old GL products were? Unbreatbale for the prive and quality. The reason im running it now is because I got chose to test it and its free,

Im running the Torm for the 1st 3 days as a little pick me up if I'm surepressed at all, which should be minimal and i should be good to go after 3 days doseing. Weeks 5-6 and 9-10 are like mini P.C.T's.

In a write up on pulseing with this compund it says running it like this doesnt call for a heavy P.C.T but i want to be safe so this low dose Torm should do the trick

[pistonpump]

okay well youre a lucky ****!! howd you manage that?


do you think you would have to worry about any estro rebound from the Torem in those 3 days?

Just trying to point out some things to be sure...

[Distilled Water]

okay well youre a lucky ****!! howd you manage that?


do you think you would have to worry about any estro rebound from the Torem in those 3 days?

Just trying to point out some things to be sure...

And I appreciate it bro.

No i think I should be fine witht the taper from 90/60/30. What im worried about is the AP and AI. I seen somthings about who the AP is pretty nulled by an AI, but Im not 100%. Dr. D could you chime in on this question?

[Distilled Water]

Legs, I FCUKING hate legs!!!! with that beeing said, its been a great day. Got all my foos thus far. I found some GrubON in my fridge 2day also....its working well.

No Havoc 2day, Pre-workout mix: 1 Methyl-Speed with an added 2.5gr Creatine Mono and 2gr Taurine.

During workout: 4 scoops Excell with 7gr Glutamine

Postworkout: 1 Anabolic Pump......15minutes........12o z. OJ, 35gr Waxy Maize, and 2 scoops ON whey Vanilla...it was tastey

LEGS

Squat:
135 @ 20
185 @ 20
225 @ 15
275 @ 10
315 @ 6

Leg Press:
5 plates @ 20
6 plates @ 15

One leg Press:
2 plates @ 12
3 plates @ 10

Lying Leg-Curl
-Super Set-
Leg Extention
120 @ 15
130 @ 12
140 @ 10

One Leg SuperSet
50 @ 12
40 @ 13

*I was going to do Lunges but then I got a rumble in my tummy which was good enough for me as this was only my 3rd week back into legs since a 4 months lay-off (my season)

Notes: Just an overall good day. Cant wait to hit shoulders 2maro with 20mg Havoc. Shoulders are my favorite day

[DR.D]

... What im worried about is the AP and AI. I seen somthings about who the AP is pretty nulled by an AI, but Im not 100%. Dr. D could you chime in on this question?

Yes, reducing estrogen can increase insulin resistance and all that but I think it's likely over-rated as to this application. I have still not tried AP, but I have tried it's primary ingredients before and find that they are still equally effective in high and low estrogen status. Maybe there's something else I take frequently that compensates (like a flavinoid or something) but I don't think it should be a major limiting factor.

[Distilled Water]

I Had an early workout 2day. Shoulders was on the menu this afternoon

Pre Workout: 2 Scoops ATW, 1 cup Dry Oats, 10mg Havoc
-5gr Creatine Mono, 2gr Taurine, 5gr Glutamine

During Workout: 4 scopps Excell, 7gr Glutamine in 20oz Water, 16.9oz additional Water

Post Workout: 1 Anabolic Pump........2 scoops ON Vanilla Whey, 12 oz. OJ, 35gr Waxy Maize, 10mg Havoc
-5 gr Creatine Mono, 5gr Glutamine

SHOULDERS

Smith Machine Fnt. Press: (if bar was 45lbs)
-Warm up 95 @ 20
-Warm up 105 @ 15
205 @ 6
185 @ 8
165 @ 10
145 @ 12

One arm Side Lats:
25 @ 8
20 @ 10
20 @ 10
30 @ 8

Rev. Pec Flye:
8 @ 8
7 @ 10
6 @ 12

Front Raise:
35 @ 10
35 @ 10
30 @ 12
25 @ 15

One Arm Cable Bent Over Raise:
3 @ 8
2@ 10

Notes: I'm in a great mood 2day which lead to a great workout. Diet has been spot on, other than last ntie I had a bowl of Golden Grams emmmmm......Great Pumps and some added vasculairty 2day also. Just an overall great day.......agian!

[Distilled Water]

Generic Labs Cissus-Drol came 2day !!!!!!!

[Distilled Water]

Back day :dl: Yea I'm not deadlifting yet....*1st real back workout in 4 months!!!!!

Pre-Workout: 2scoops Whey 1 Banana
-5gr creatine, 5gr Glutamine, 2gr Taurine

During Workout: 4 scoops Excell, 7gr Glutamine

Post-Workout: Anabolic Pump.......2 scoops ON Whey, 12oz OJ, 35gr Waxt Maize
-5gr Creatine, 5gr Glutamine

BACK
Lat Pulldown:
100 @ 15-Warm up

Assisted wide grip pull-ups:
30lbs @ 15
20lbs @ 13
bodyweight @ 10
-susperset-
Way Wide Assisted Pull Ups
40lbs @ 10

Wide grip Bent Over Row:
135 @ 8
125 @ 10
115 @ 12
105 @ 15

Cable Pull Overs:
8 @ 20
9 @ 15
10 @ 12
-superset-
Close Grip Pull Down:
110 @ 15
120 @ 12
130 @ 10

Shrugs:
90 @ 20
140 @ 15
180 @ 12
180 @ 10
140 @ 12
90 @ 13

Lower Back ext:
2 sets w/ bodyweight for 12 reps

Great pump again 2day, i felt kinda sluggish today but nothing terrible. My legs are killing me. Diet is about 90% on 2day, im not really that hungry

[Travis]

Just a heads up but if you pay attention to local papers and media a lot of time hospitals and medical clinics will have special "health events" where they let people come in and get blood work and other tests done relatively cheap. I have a comprehensive blood test coming up and its only going to cost $30. You just cant choose what day obviously since its a public type event.

[Distilled Water]

Just a heads up but if you pay attention to local papers and media a lot of time hospitals and medical clinics will have special "health events" where they let people come in and get blood work and other tests done relatively cheap. I have a comprehensive blood test coming up and its only going to cost $30. You just cant choose what day obviously since its a public type event.

Good to know, thanks man i'll keep an eye out

[Distilled Water]

Sh*tty night of sleep last night. it was about 90 and had no air. Was draggind @ss today.

Pre-Workout: 2 scoops ATW, 1 cup dry oats, 20mg Havoc
-5gr Creatine, 2gr taurine, 5gr Glutamine

During Workout: 4 scoops Excell, 7gr Glutamine

Post-Workout:1 Anabolic Pump...... 2 scoops ON whey, 12oz OJ, 35gr Waxy Maize, 10mg Havoc
-5gr Creatine, 5gr Glutamine

ARMS
Close Grip Bench:
155 @ 12
165 @ 10
175 @ 10
-Superset-
Barebell Curl
55 @ 12
65 @ 10
75 @ 8

Reverse Press Downs:
12 @ 12
13 @ 10
15 @ 10
-Superset-
Incline DB curls:
25 @ 12
30 @ 10
35 @ 8

Overhead DB Ext
85 @ 8
80 @ 10
70 @ 12
-Superset-
Precher Curl:
45 @ 12
55 @ 12
65 @ 10

Cable Kickbacks:
3 @ 8
2 @ 10
1 @ 12
-Superset-
Concentraion Curls:
20 @ 10
25 @ 8
30 @ 6

Reverse One Arm Cable Pressdown:
5 @ 10
4 @ 11
-Superset-
Hammer Curls:
25 @ 12
30 @ 10
35 @ 8

Notes: Great pumps again 2day. My legs are stil a little sore. Diet is 95% on, and well i peaked @ my weight 2day......................184l bs (+2lbs). Thats nice to know. I feel strength is starting to come along. Libdo is up id say .5 from normal, but def. up