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    jth18's first ph cycle: Phera-plex + Prostanozol WOO HOO!


    Info about myself!
    Hi, my name is Jordan. I enjoy long walks on the beach. This will be my first PH cycle, so lets all watch as I crash and burn... Not really, but lets hope not.
    I have been training for going on 7 years. I aim to become a competitive bodybuilder, but I want to make it worthwhile, I hate seeing bodybuilders that weigh <170 on stage.
    I have a slightly sarcastic nature, so if I say something, don't let it offend you, it is all in good humor.

    DA STATS
    Weight: 222
    Height: 5'9
    Bodyfat: 15%
    Chest: 46"
    Arms: 18.7"
    Waist: 36"
    Thighs: 27"
    Calves: 18"
    Shoulders: 56"
    Penis: 2.5ft

    :dl:
    DA MAXES
    Bench: 405
    Squat: 500
    Deadlift: 500
    RAWR
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    The Feeding
    ________P/C/F/Cal
    Breakfast:
    Whey Protein: 48/8/2/240
    Oatmeal: 10/54/6/300

    Post workout:
    PWO Shake:40/137/3/732

    Another breakfast:
    Chicken Breast: 58/1/8/327
    Oatmeal: 10/54/6/300

    Lunch:
    Egg whites: 17/2/0/82
    Whole eggs: 6/1/7/91
    Lentils: 34/76/1/440

    Another meal after lunch:
    Lentils: 34/76/1/440
    Chicken Breast: 58/1/8/327

    Post workout:
    PWO Shake: 40/137/3/732

    Meal after dinner:
    Cottage cheese: 56/12/5/327
    Flax seed oil: 0/0/27/240

    Mid-sleep meal:
    Casein shake: 23/4/1/120
    Fish Oil Pills: 0/0/4/15

    TOTALS: 437/565/52/4713

    The meal order will change from day to day depending on if i have work or not. I will need to lower the calories since, this is the first time I've had a diet over 3,500 calories.


    The Training!
    I will be following the Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse routine from abcbodybuilding.com outlined here: [edit] Apparently I can't post URLs until I have 20 posts... Oh well, Ill copy it in another post.
    Read into it if you have a few minutes, its really interesting. Cause I mean, its pretty much the best workout routine ever...

    And Finally...
    !!DA CYCLE!!
    Days 1-3:
    Phera-drol(PP remake): 10mg
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 4-14:
    Phera-drol: 20mg
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 15-21: Phera-drol: 20mg
    WinZtrol (Prostanozol remake): 50mg
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 22-30:
    Phera-drol: 30mg
    WinZtrol: 100mg
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 30-37:
    WinZtrol: 150mg
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 37-44: <-- I may start post cycle therapy here, depending on suggestions and how I feel.
    WinZtrol: 150 or 200mg
    6-oxo: 1 pill
    Cycle support, fish oils, flax oil.
    Days 44-48 Start post cycle therapy
    Toremifene: 120mg
    6-oxo: 1 pill
    cycle support, fish oil, flax oil
    Days 49-53
    Toremifene: 90mg
    6-oxo: 2 pills
    cycle support, fish oil, flax oil
    Days 54-63
    Toremifene: 60mg
    6-oxo: 3 pills
    Days 64-72
    Toremifene: 30mg
    6-oxo: 3 pills
    Days 73- ???
    ...Who knows... Maybe HX2+MFX or an evolution cycle

    I need an anti-cortisol to run throughout post cycle therapy, suggestions?
    Edit: As per Rodja's suggestion I will be adding SNS Retain 2.0 to my post cycle therapy for cortisol, but I'm still open to suggestions.

    More Supplements!:
    Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
    Scivation Xtend
    BCAA pills
    HMB powder <-- SO GROSS
    Creatine Monohydrate
    IntraXCell
    Weight Gainer

    DA SUPPLEMENTS:
    Waking:
    Chromium
    Phera-Plex
    Multi-Vitamin
    Creatine

    1 Hour After 1st Meal:
    .048 x weight in kg=amino acid intake
    5g Glutamine
    Cycle Support
    IntraXCell

    Post Workout :
    Glutamine
    EAAs
    1 Hour after Post workout:
    HMB
    IntraXCell
    Phera-Plex

    Before 2nd workout:
    EAAs
    Glutamine

    After 2nd PWO shake:
    EAAs
    Phera-Plex

    Pre-Sleep:
    Cycle support

    Mid-Sleep:
    EAAs
    Glutamine

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    Retain 2.0 is a good anti-cortisol supplement for PCT.
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    Thanks for the quick suggestion!

    I'm not going to copy and paste the workout because it is waayy to long, but I'll give yaull some points.
    It combines periodization, daily undulating periodization, and summated microcycles by having differently styled workouts to get the most out of every muscle fiber. There are hypertrophy cycles, strength cycles, shock cycles, and active recovery workouts. Working out twice a day, six days a week for one month followed by a taper. I may extend the workout to the end of my PH usage.

    For Example!
    For large muscle groups, I wanted to typically follow these guidelines:

    Heavy Cycle—Train twice in one day

    2 days rest

    Hypertrophy Cycle—Train twice in one day

    3 days rest

    Shock cycle—train once

    3 days rest

    Active recovery—train once

    2 days rest

    Repeat
    Strength & Hypertrophy Workouts Explained
    This will follow the same principles of a traditional periodization strength cycle. Repetitions here will typically be 1-6, with 3-5 minutes rest in-between sets. Volume will be lower here.

    The cadence (rep speed) will be 1-2 seconds on the concentric and eccentric portion of the repetition. Basically, it will as fast as possible, but in a controlled manner.

    The hypertrophy workouts will also follow a traditional periodization format. This will involve moderate intensity, limited rest, and relatively higher volume. Typically 8-12+ reps are performed, with 1-2 minutes of rest between sets. The goal is to develop peripheral factors such as stronger tendon, and ligament strength, and enlarge cross sectional area (muscle mass), which will also allow you to increase the capacity to express a given skill, and avoid future injuries.

    The Cadence will be 3-5 seconds on the eccentric phase (naturally longer for the legs) and 2 seconds for the concentric portion of the rep.
    Shock Workouts Explained

    Also known as an overreaching cycle, a shock cycle, or workout, entails the athlete training in such a way as to accumulate fatigue or depletion, followed by a longer than normal rest period. This combination is thought to lead to an even greater super compensation effect. An example would entail performing 10 strip sets on a body part, followed by greater rest periods between sessions. I will be performing some unique shocking methods, and will only train the muscle once that day (on most occasions). I will then allow a longer rest period time, around 4-5 days in duration.
    Active Recovery Workouts Explained

    I will be using the method prescribed by Wilson, G. (2003) in, Active Recovery - A Threefold Breakdown.
    I will perform a few light, high rep resistance training exercises. The goal is to enhance blood flow to the area, but at the same time, avoid any micro trauma to your muscles. As such, the weight will be of minimal resistance, and approximately 20 reps plus. Studies show eccentric training causes extreme muscular damage (refer to the following article for extensive research on this, Cliff Hanger Part I). As such, I will avoid tension on this portion of the repetition by performing a 1 second eccentric repetition per rep. The concentric aspect of the lift will last 1-2 seconds. I will do around 2-5 sets per muscle group. A sample workout for forearms would entail 2 sets of 20 reps with reverse barbell wrist curls, and 2 sets of 20 reps with barbell wrist curls, using minimal resistance. I will primarily do this with my criterion lifts (explained further on).
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    You grow while resting, not while you are lifting. If you want to increase your volume, then do it, but that plan seems like too much. Adding an extra day every week is okay, but training in a fashion that you are unfamiliar with is generally not a good idea because you do not know if the WO or the AAS led to your gains.

    What is your current split?
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    My volume is already high as heck. Thats just how I prefer it.
    I have tried this routine before about a year ago, got maybe two weeks into it, and was very wore out. So, now I'm more prepared, and going to be on some decently strong PHs. So, I'll be ok.
    And if you don't train in unfamiliar fashion, then eventually your gains will taper off. And of course the PHs will help my gains. Higher test= better gains, end of story.

    EDIT: Are you really a pro MMA fighter??!
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    yeah, that workout is pretty tough....if you do it all right....haha....
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    Ok, so not a bad first workout, got the goal acomplished. But about an hour before my 2nd workout I got called into work... So, that messed up not only my 2nd workout, but my diet... Oh well, tommorrow is another day, and I won't have any interruptions.

    Day 1: Weight:221.6 after 1st meal
    Morning Session
    Delts Heavy
    Biceps Heavy
    Forearms Heavy


    2 sets barbell military press:
    185X6, 175X4
    1 set of dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 set barbell military press
    175X3
    2 sets behind back barbell wrist curls
    135X6, 185X6
    1 set dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 set behind back barbell wrist curls
    185X6
    2 sets barbell upright rows
    115X6, 125X6
    1 set dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 set barbell upright rows
    135X5
    3 sets of Front Dumbbell Raises (alternating)
    40X6, 55X3, 55X3
    2 sets alternating dumbbell curls
    70X6, 75X4
    1 set dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 set alternating dumbbell curls
    75X3
    3 sets of Bent Over Rear Delt Raise (alternating)
    100X6, 100X6, 100X6
    3 sets of Dumbbell Shrugs
    405X6, 405X6, 500X4
    2 sets easy curl bar curls
    110X, 130X6
    1 set dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 set easy curl bar curls
    130X4
    2 sets reverse barbell curls
    115X6, 115X6
    1 set dumbbell shrugs:
    200X8
    1 sets reverse barbell curls
    135X4

    Total: 12 sets delts, 6 sets biceps, 6 sets forearms, 9 sets traps, 33 sets total. 1 hour and 40 minutes.

    BTW Tank76 is my workout buddy. His life goal is to be as good as me.. So, be kind.
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    GRR!!!!
    I sway a little from the original plan, but that OK. I felt GREAT, so I did some extra sets of squats, and if time (and my body) permit, I will be having my 2nd workout in a few hours.

    Day 2 Weight:222.0
    Morning Session

    Legs Heavy
    Calves Heavy
    1-6 reps
    6 sets squats
    225X6, 315X6, 405X3, 500X1, 405X4, 405X3

    5 sets leg press
    600X6, 700X6, 825X6, 825X6, 825X6

    3 sets leg press calve raises
    825X8, 825X8, 825X8

    3 sets lunges
    185X6, 185X4, 185X4

    3 sets hamstring curls
    170X6, 180X6, 180X6

    3 sets leg extensions
    250X6, 260X6, 260X6

    3 sets seated calve raises
    180X6, 270X6, 270X6

    Total: 20 sets thighs, 6 sets calves, 26 sets total. 1 hour and 30 minutes.
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    U is a big summabeach, your penis is kinda small though....

    Good luck. Interesting set up. What is the advantage of overlapping the PP and Prostan vs just stopping the PP and beginning the Prostan??
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    Last nights leg workout went well. And by well I mean it hurt like hell. And by hell I mean I kinda wanted to cry by the end.

    Evening Session
    Legs Heavy
    Calves Heavy

    2 sets squats
    225X3, 315X3 <-- Warm up, 405X5, 405X4

    1 set plate shrugs
    55lb plate in each handX8

    1 set squats
    405X3

    3 sets leg press
    825X6, 825X6, 825X6

    2 sets leg press calve raises
    825X8, 825X8

    1 set plate shrugs
    same as beforeX8

    1 set leg press calve raises
    825X8

    3 sets lying machine hamstring curls
    180X6, 190X6 190X6

    3 sets leg extensions machine
    250X6, 260X6, 260X6

    3 sets seated calve raises
    270X6, 270X6, 270X6

    Total: 12 sets thighs, 6 sets calves, 2 set traps, 20 sets total
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    U is a big summabeach, your penis is kinda small though....

    Good luck. Interesting set up. What is the advantage of overlapping the PP and Prostan vs just stopping the PP and beginning the Prostan??
    the prostanZOL is from what i gather very weak solo, to take advantage of it it needs to be stacked with something else. I still have an unopened bottle....dont know when i ill ever get around to using it.


    JTH, You should make some nice gains looks like you have really done a good job natural and everything seems to be very structured so Im guessing 15lbs since this is your first. Very good you did your research
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    Ok, there is this commentary that the creator of this split made, and in it he said this was the hardest workout of the split... And I thought he may have been exagerating, but unfortunately he wasn't. By the end I wanted to drop to the fetal position. The chest portion of the workout was pretty easy, it was the back shock that KILLED me.

    Day 3 Weight: 220
    Morning Session
    Chest Heavy
    1/2 Back Shock
    Triceps Heavy

    2 sets Flat Bench Press
    315X5, 315X4

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200lbsX8

    1 set Flat Bench Press
    335X3

    2 sets of Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
    200X6, 200X6

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200X8 (the largest dumbbells we have in the gym are 100s we kinda need larger ones...)

    1 sets of Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
    200X8

    3 sets cable pec flys
    13X6, 14X6, 14X6

    2 sets skull crunchers
    155X6, 155X6

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200X8

    1 set skull crunchers
    155X6

    3 sets tricep press-downs
    120X6, 130X6, 140X6

    Double drop set on straight leg dead lifts super setted with a double drop set on bent over rows. On these. So here is what the set looked like: 405 pounds SLDL, 4 reps, 375 pound SLDL, 4 reps, 315 SLDL, 5 reps, then down to 225 with the same barbell and 8 reps with bent over rows, 185 12 reps, 135 12 reps. All sets are to failure.
    ---->Point of fetal postion
    Double drop on dumbbell pull-overs:130X12, 110X8, 110X6 w/wide- pull-ups to failureX5, X4, X4 w/ double drop on seated pull-over machine: 14X12, 15X8, 15X8 w/ close grip pull-ups to failure X3 X3 X3
    Total: 9 sets pecs, 2 shocks on back, 3 sets traps, 6 sets triceps, 18 sets total. 1 hour and 50 minutes

    I honestly feel like vomiting, but that may be due to the protein shake XD, but lets see how tonights workout goes...
    Oh and btw I went ahead and bumped the PP to 20mg today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    the prostanZOL is from what i gather very weak solo, to take advantage of it it needs to be stacked with something else. I still have an unopened bottle....dont know when i ill ever get around to using it.


    JTH, You should make some nice gains looks like you have really done a good job natural and everything seems to be very structured so Im guessing 15lbs since this is your first. Very good you did your research
    Yep yep! Did I spell it wrong? XD oops. Yeah, its very weak, doses up to 200mg aren't uncommon., and its relatively side-effect free. Its a nice stack with PP because PP is a mildly wet compound, and Prostanzol is very dry, so it will help me look more dry and more test is always good. Also, it will be a nice ramp down from the 30mg of PP. Some people drop really hard when they go straight from 30mg+ of PP to PCT.

    Is there any chance you would want to sell that bottle of yours piston? I can pay via paypal, or however is convenient.

    And yeah Travis, it really is my weak point, I think it may be from the steroids...
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    Good workout, really burnt out from the first workout, but that is expected. Back shocks suck reeeaaallly bad... Thats about it...

    Evening Session

    Chest Heavy
    1/2 Back Shock
    Triceps Heavy

    2 sets Incline Dumbbell Bench
    295X4, 285X4

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200X8

    1 set incline dumbbell bench
    275X6

    Double drop set on dead lifts using shrug machine, 315X15, 385X10, 385X8 w/ hyperextensions bodyweightX15,X12,X10

    2 sets of Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
    200X6, 200X6

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200X8
    :bb2:
    1 sets of Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
    200X6

    15, 20, 25 method on wide grip lat pull downs, with double drop 1 reps on seated one arm rows 80X12, 80X12, 80X12

    2 sets skull crunchers
    135X6, 135X6

    1 set dumbbell shrugs
    200X8

    1 set skull crunchers
    135X6


    Total: 6 sets pecs, 3 sets triceps, 2 shocking methods on back, 3 sets shrugs, 12 sets total. 1 hour 20 minutes.
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    Reading that made me tired....cant imagine doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jth18 View Post
    BTW Tank76 is my workout buddy. His life goal is to be as good as me.. So, be kind.
    Why would I wanna be a poon??

    haha, well anyways, I am this big guys workout partner, and we are both using PP. We are tryin to keep our diets, supps, everything the same. Soo I'm going to take the lazy way out and just use his log and add mine on as well, since we are doing everything exactly the same.

    First off, my stats are:

    Height: 6'
    Weight: 219
    Penis: 3ft <----also my weak point

    bench: 345
    squat: 485
    Deadlift: 480? (haven't realy gotten a clear max yet, just an assumption)

    Since I am doing the same exact workout that JTH is doing, I'm just going to add my 2 cents on how i thought it was and also add what positive and negative effects I gain from the workout and the PP.

    Well, as you all know, this is the third day that we have been on this workout. We missed the second work out of the first day, and I missed the first workout of yesterday, seeing as i was at work...

    TODAY
    the workout was pretty awesome. Back shocks do suck very big balls, but it wasn't quite as bad as I was expecting. I missed the back shock in the first work because, again, I had to leave early for work, so i focused more of my time on the thing I thought needed the most work...my chest. My diet is alright, but it could definately improve. So far today I've had a bowl of oat meal, a 50g protein shake, 2 grilled chicken wraps, a meal replacement bar, another 50g protein shake, and I'm about to eat some more, and then probably some more....

    I know, may calorie intake needs to go up and so does my protein intake, but I'm working on it, I just need some more planning, and alot more chicken....
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    Curious about this part:

    Days 73- ???
    ...Who knows... Maybe HX2+MFX or an evolution cycle


    Why not run the HX2+MFX or something like the NHA stack along with the Retain during your PCT instead of after your PCT is over? You should be able to run that stack for 2 months as well. I'm just a noob myself, but to me it would make sense for getting your test production / libido back in order immediately after a cycle as well as continuing and solidifying those gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Curious about this part:

    Days 73- ???
    ...Who knows... Maybe HX2+MFX or an evolution cycle


    Why not run the HX2+MFX or something like the NHA stack along with the Retain during your post cycle therapy instead of after your post cycle therapy is over? You should be able to run that stack for 2 months as well. I'm just a noob myself, but to me it would make sense for getting your test production / libido back in order immediately after a cycle as well as continuing and solidifying those gains.
    Honestly, for no other reason than I don't have the extra 70$ at the moment to buy it. I'm sure it would be beneficial, and I've heard great things about 6-bromo during PCT, but alas, I'm a poor college student
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    DAY 4!
    Weight: 223~! (+3) Gains are coming in, and I'm finally getting that ON feeling. At the point where I feel like I usually am about to hit failure I can just grit out 3-4 more reps. I can't wait to see what is to come. The workout was fairly easy, I went hard but I still feel great!

    Morning Session

    Delts Hypertrophy
    Biceps Hyertrophy
    Forearms Shock

    2 sets behind the neck barbell press
    135X12, 135X12

    1 set bent over laterals
    150X12

    1 set behind the neck barbell press
    135X9

    2 sets upright rows
    115X12, 115X12

    1 set bent over laterals
    140X12

    1 set upright rows
    115X12

    3 sets One Arm Cross Cable Laterals
    4X12, 5X12, 6X12

    2 sets alternating Dumbbell alternating curls
    55X12, 55X12 <--cheated the last few reps

    1 set bent over laterals
    150X12

    1 set alternating dumbbell curls
    45X12 <--- cheated after first 5 or 6 reps

    3 sets one arm side laterals
    20X15, 20X15, 20X15

    3 sets preacher curl machine curls
    70X12, 70X9, 70X8

    3 sets of machine side laterals
    50X20, 70X15, 70X15

    3 sets of machine hammer curls
    90X8, 90X5+strip to 70X3, 90X6+ strip too 70X3

    Forearms Shock: Standing back cable wrist curls.
    to failure static for 30 seconds, partial reps for 30 seconds perform triple drop set, then repeat with cable reverse wrist curls.
    5X30+30 seconds+30partial 4Xfail 3Xfail
    8X30+30 seconds+30partial+7Xfail+6Xfai l

    Total: 15 sets delts, 9 sets biceps, 3 sets back, shock on forearms, 27 sets total. 1 hour, 20 minutes.

    Tonights workout should be easy, so don't expect anything too gut wrenching.
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    Evening Session
    I can definately feel the difference between the morning and night workouts. The weights are lower, but the intensity is the same, and the pumps are now skin tight.

    Delts Hypertrophy
    Biceps Hypertrophy


    2 sets behind the neck barbell press
    115X11, 115X8

    1 set shrugs
    200X12

    1 sets behind the neck barbell press
    115X8

    2 sets upright rows
    115X15, 115X10

    1 set shrugs
    200X12

    1 sets upright rows
    115X8 <-- cheated last few reps

    3 sets alternating dumbbell curls super setted with
    40X12, 30X12, 30X12

    Overhead laterals
    30X15, 30X15, 30Xfailed at 10, pause-repped to 16

    3 sets incline dumbbell curls
    30X8, 30X8, 30X8 <-- cheated last two sets

    Total: 6 sets delts, 6 sets biceps, 2 sets traps, 14 sets total.

    Intensity was great, went to failure, and kept the reps really slow.
    Now I must go or the blue guys will be my boss, and the red guy will be me...
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    Day 5 Weight: 223.0
    Well, Im pretty close to dying. Not really, but I'm beggining to feel overtrained. Looking great, feel like poop. I don't really feel that bad. In fact I feel great as far as pumps, intensity, and energy go. Its just I've worked every muscle group like 4 times this week and its only day 5.

    Morning Session

    Legs Hypertrophy
    Calves Hypertrophy
    Abs

    2 sets of squats
    215X5(warm-up), 315X12, 405X9,

    1 set of decline sit-ups with decline crunches
    Didn't keep track, just went to failure on both.

    1 set of squats
    405X6<- Failed on 6

    2 sets of seated incline calf raises
    All the weight:X25,X20,X35

    1 set of decline sit-ups with decline crunches
    Didn't keep track, just went to failure on both.

    1 sets of leg press calf raises
    All the weight:X35

    3 sets of decline sit-ups with decline crunches
    Bodyweight: X10,X15, repeat X3

    3 sets of standing calf raises
    180X20, 180X25, 180X25

    3 sets of adductor machine supper setted with abductor machine. No rest between sets. Three sets.
    100X15, 150X15 Repeat X3

    3 sets of seated calf raises
    250X20, 340X25, 340X25

    3 sets of lying leg curls.
    140X12, 140X10, 140X10


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    Im going on a church trip for 5 days, leaving tommmorrow. I will still be training using dumbbells and some plyometrics. It will actually prove beneficial so I don't overtrain. Worst case scenario, I miss one workout. So, it won't really hurt anything. I will be bringing a supply of Whey, Casein, MRP bars, MRP shakes, etc. And because my legs are fried I went ahead and did day 6 Morning workout tonight.

    These numbers are horrible compared to wednesdays.
    Day 5

    Afternoon Session

    Chest Hypertrophy
    Triceps Hypertrophy

    3 sets flat barbell bench press
    265X5, 245X10, 225X10

    3 sets decline bench press
    275X6, 225X9, 225X10

    3 sets incline dumbbell bench
    200X10, 200X8, 200X6

    3 sets dips super setted with pec cable flys
    45lb plate attached to meX10+1 negative
    45lb plate attached to meX10+1 negative
    BodyweightX10+ 1 negative

    3 sets skull of crunchers
    135X10, 135X8, 135X8

    3 sets rope press downs super setted with straight bar tricep press downs
    Unsure of weights, but went to failure all except first set on rope press down.


    Total: 12 sets pecs, 9 sets triceps, 21 sets....Crap
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    Pictures!
    I feel harder, more vascular, but nearing overtraining, maybe a little bloated.



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    yeah, I'm definately feeling bloated. I pretty much feel like a fat ass, even though I have only gained about 3 pounds so far, and my lifts are better than ever I believe. I hate the feeling of being fat and bloated, so I cant wait to start post cycle and get some of this extra water out of my system...Anywho, trying to find an effective way to workout at the beach with such limited resources is going to be exciting...we may end up doing dead lifts with the bed, haha, but o well, the beach is the beach, and it should be a good, much needed break
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    Day 11 Weight: 234.5 (+3.5) Bodyfat definately feels lower, will need to check soon to get a clear LBM gain.

    Woo hoo!
    Im back! It was a great trip, but I'm glad to be back in the gym. I decided to go ahead and take the day to get my maxes down so...
    I got 405 on bench again, and really struggled with it so I didn't go up which made me kinda sad, but my deadlift has BLOWN up. I did 508 easily which is already 8lbs higher than my max 12 days ago, so I tried 558 and had it over half way up but my form slipped a little and I bowed my back so I dropped it. I think it is definately safe to assume a +30lbs to my deadlift if not more.
    I went to squat, but didnt go over 405 because my lower back has a sharp pain in it now. Not enough to raise alarm, but enough to make me not want to go over 500 on squat.
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    UPDATES:
    As of day 12 I have dropped around 1% of bodyfat putting me at a total LBM gain of 3.7lbs, and a loss of around 2lbs of fat. Not too shabby. :bb3: I'm at the 193lb lbm mark, and my goal is to be at the 200 mark by the end of the cycle, which I mean is comepletely awesome, right?

    Im feeling great in the gym and all that fun stuff, but I may be having an odd side-effect. Its somewhat like an anxiety attack, but not so severe. I'm just really nervous feeling like someone is about to run through my door with an uzi. Anyone ever experienced this? Its gone away now, but I would really rather it not come back.
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    could be blood pressure, check it.
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    i printed off that 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse workout thinking i might like to try it and it scared the SH!T out of me!

    i may give it a go, but maybe only for a week or two. not sure if my body could handle it at this time.

    just a word of caution....this high of intensity workouts may eat into some of the gains you might have recieved otherwise from this cycle.
    but it also sounds like you have worked up to this type of training schedule. i'm looking forward to following this!
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    Holy cow, you make all my lifts look like a girls vollyball teams states haha. Gosh anyway damn ok I'm just jealous haha. Nah your stack looks good I never used the zol so watching your log is going to be fun and enjoy the strang feelings I feel like I'm in a action movie when I get them on cycle.
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    What were the results of this cycle???
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