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    Quote Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
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    Summary:

    This stuff worked well, but I feel that it would have been MUCH better during a bulk. You will notice that the first 4 weeks were sponsored by ALRI and I picked up another bottle myself. That fact, in and of itself should leave no doubt in your mind that I "felt" this product kicking in... otherwise why would I pick up another bottle ?

    So... in a twist of irony (luckily I'm not here to impress anyone) the photos below IMO do NOT accurately reflect the actual on-cycle results, however I did start to look and feel "flat" towards the end of the cycle when I lost that last few lbs and the after photo certainly show that. Also, I continued cardio but my endurance and stamina suffered BIG TIME and my overall activity levels went down due to the beginning of winter. I'm not sure if you can tell, but there is noticable lat progress and upper chest progress. These are 2 weak areas for me, and I feel that Jungle WARFARE responded very VERY well to isolation exercises more than anything.

    I think it's worth noting that there were MANY workouts where I felt like I was giving 110% but in hindsight, it was the lethargy making me "feel" as if I was giving 110%. The lethargy and full body soreness were BY FAR the biggest downsides to my Jungle WARFARE experience. If / when I run Jungle WARFARE again, it will NOT be on a low carb / cutting / recomp diet.

    Thanks to Author L. Rea and the whole ALRI crew ! Any questions, feel free to post them up and I'll answer as best I can.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Week 1:

    -Noticable feeling of well-being

    Week 2:

    - Surprised at how soon some of the effects kicked in
    - VERY, VERY noticable feeling of well-being
    - VERY aggressive / moderate mood swings
    - Moderate full body soreness
    - Moderate lethargy / feel like sleeping all the time
    - Mild appetite increase... especially a few hours after 3rd pill
    - Vascularity up slightly
    - Mild strength gains
    - Absolutely incredible MMC
    - Libido is up
    - Muscle hardness is up but others notice it more than me
    - Long lasting pumps
    - Tingling in arms
    - Mild cramping in calves / tri's

    Week 3:

    - Lethargy has kicked in and appears to be here to stay.. any day without Red ACID and I feel like sleeping all day
    - Libido is still up
    - Up at least 10% on all lifts
    - Discontinued GlycerGROW and decreased SesaGLOW


    Week 4:

    Libido: seems to come and go a bit BUT overall it's definately and noticably up... I just don't want anyone to think it's a viagra effect.

    Aggression: is off the charts.. EVEN in my sleep. Very violent and just plain ****ed up dreams. On my days off, I'm still able to sleep over 10 hours, then wake up.. eat and go right back to sleep for another solid 4 or 5 hours. I think this could be partly stress related (my doc says depression).

    Cardio: Stamina / endurance isn't "down" but I think it has hit a bit of a plateau. Maybe subconsciously I don't want to push my heartrate as much as usual ?? Not sure...

    Pimples / Acne: Some users have reported acne... all I have noticed is a tiny little body pimple here and there.. like 2 or 3 at a time... nothing major.. more like whitehead pimples... I'm happy about this. I've also been in the sun quite a bit, the pool about every other day, and I use a very good / cheap antibacterial soap called Safeguard (can't say enough about this stuff.. if you have acne this is worth trying).

    Strength: Lifts are up at least 10-15% for reps (DURING A RECOMP !!!!) and I think the best is yet to come.. meaning that even though the JW kicked in very fast, the best parts are during week 3+ which indicates that I will probably recommend 8 week cycles. I'm working on charting my gains / losses / measurements for the final review.

    Vascularity: Call me crazy but overall vascularity might be down a bit, despite a noticable fatloss effect... meaning that I have lost some abdominal and oblique fat BUT I'm not seeing too much as far as vascularity... now to be fair I did get off GlycerGROW (my baby) so maybe what I will do is take GlycerGROW for 1-2 days as we come to the end of the cycle here.

    Lethargy: Basically the lethargy hit me pretty hard, but it's worth it. The full body soreness has improved a bit, and it's also worth it. Basically JW users just need to be aware of this possibility so they can plan ahead for it... similar to the Xfactor insomnia IMO. I do feel that the lethargy in my case may be related to the TYPE of recomp that I'm doing... maybe calorie "burst cycling" would be more appropriate and not carb cycling... definately food for thought..

    Week 5:

    Serious lethargy
    Stamina / Endurance officially down
    Muscle fullness

    Some insight:

    It's like a reward.. it's as if all this time you have been torturing yourself at the gym and BOOM... with Jungle WARFARE (when it kicks in around week 3-4) it's like the "ON SWITCH" has been flipped and finally the hard work is paying off noticably. Vascularity continued to improve.

    Week 6:

    Strength gains have peaked / leveled off at this point.... stamina and endurance are WAY down. Headaches and possible heart palpitation.

    Body pimples are under control...
    Lethargy / mood swings... overriding the feeling of well-being
    Libido (desire) definately down...
    Aggression definately up...
    Vascularity holding steady...
    Recovery... outstanding...
    Appetite under complete control... have to essentially schedule meals and snacks...
    Oh... lower back pumps have been insane

    Week 7:

    Started tapering down the dosage... seeing more veins but looking very soft in the mornings... worried at this point. Violent, vivid dreams... lethargy continues, and basically felt like shiat. Severe lethargy and muscle spasms / tingling. Pumps and MMC still great, but motivation, endurance, and stamina still down.

    Week 8:

    Very discouraged with progress, despite looking a bit dryer. Vascularity comes and goes... frustrated. Libido is still down but aggression is still high. Lethargy remains... worried. Pumps and MMC still great. Stressed and feeling very run down. Happy with lat progress and upper chest progress, all things considered.

    Week 9:

    Lethargy improving, but muscle spasms /cramps remain and endurance / stamina still way down. Still definately not feeling 100% and libido still down.... frustrated... looking noticably "flat" except for during / post-workout.

    Strength starts to decline a bit (back to baseline).

    Post-Cycle impressions:

    Libido is still down... still feel like crap... it was still worth it
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    Great review man!
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    Interesting review. It reminds me of my experience with ATD. When I first started atd, I enjoyed the test boost and energy it gave me. However it seemed that eventually my estrogen levels became too low,causing the ATD to be counterproductive even. I know Jungle Warfare is not atd. Just saying that your description of your experience with JW reminds me of how I felt and looked with atd. You said you looked soft in the mornings and had very little endurance. Could this be due to estrogen levels that were too low? Maybe some of you guys who know a lot about AI can chime in here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood View Post
    Interesting review. It reminds me of my experience with ATD. When I first started atd, I enjoyed the test boost and energy it gave me. However it seemed that eventually my estrogen levels became too low,causing the ATD to be counterproductive even. I know Jungle Warfare is not atd. Just saying that your description of your experience with JW reminds me of how I felt and looked with atd. You said you looked soft in the mornings and had very little endurance. Could this be due to estrogen levels that were too low? Maybe some of you guys who know a lot about AI can chime in here.
    Possibly... or maybe cortisol fluctuation
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    Were you on a low carb diet when you ran your JW? If you didn't keep carbs high enough, the hypoglycemic effects of the Momordica charantia extract definitely caught up with you over the weeks and caused your endurance, energy, and muscle fullness to suffer. I noticed similar sides when I ran JW for two weeks on a CKD until I bumped carbs up to 30-50g 1 hour after every dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood View Post
    Interesting review. It reminds me of my experience with ATD. When I first started atd, I enjoyed the test boost and energy it gave me. However it seemed that eventually my estrogen levels became too low,causing the ATD to be counterproductive even. I know Jungle Warfare is not atd. Just saying that your description of your experience with JW reminds me of how I felt and looked with atd. You said you looked soft in the mornings and had very little endurance. Could this be due to estrogen levels that were too low? Maybe some of you guys who know a lot about AI can chime in here.
    I do believe JW does have something similar to ATD though
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood View Post
    Interesting review. It reminds me of my experience with ATD. When I first started atd, I enjoyed the test boost and energy it gave me. However it seemed that eventually my estrogen levels became too low,causing the ATD to be counterproductive even. I know Jungle Warfare is not atd. Just saying that your description of your experience with JW reminds me of how I felt and looked with atd. You said you looked soft in the mornings and had very little endurance. Could this be due to estrogen levels that were too low? Maybe some of you guys who know a lot about AI can chime in here.
    I do believe JW does have something similar to ATD though, from the product write up:

    ADED (5a-dehydro-etiocholane-1,4,6-trien-3-one-17-ol) - Many are aware of both the positive and negative physiological issues relating to the naturally occurring aromatase inhibitory ATD. Most of the benefits are the result of one of its physiological 17-OH metabolites. ADED is a natural non-androgenic metabolite of ATD with improved oral bio-availability. Please, do not confuse this with ATD itself as the difference is very important both in structure and action: Some may recall this one from our Ultra H.O.T.ter matrix but to recapKBy modulating estrogen build-up the negative feed-back look to the hypothalamus is put in check. The result is that the body optimizes natural testosterone production. We use our favorite aromatase inhibitor to do this and it works pretty well to modulate, insted of obliterate, estrogen. So we still have the right amount of estrogen for optimal growth of lean tissue, without the excess water weight and fat feeding aspect.
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    I hadn't previously read the write up. I guess the aromatose inhibition is not as significant with JW as it is with ATD. The lethargy was probably more of a cumulative effect then. Inhibited cortisol, estrogen, and possible hypoglycemia if carb intake was inadequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood View Post
    I hadn't previously read the write up. I guess the aromatose inhibition is not as significant with JW as it is with ATD. The lethargy was probably more of a cumulative effect then. Inhibited cortisol, estrogen, and possible hypoglycemia if carb intake was inadequate.
    We'll see. I'll be running some with Mass FX in the near future. I'll post some feedback as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11 View Post
    We'll see. I'll be running some with Mass FX in the near future. I'll post some feedback as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcendo View Post
    Were you on a low carb diet when you ran your JW? If you didn't keep carbs high enough, the hypoglycemic effects of the Momordica charantia extract definitely caught up with you over the weeks and caused your endurance, energy, and muscle fullness to suffer. I noticed similar sides when I ran JW for two weeks on a CKD until I bumped carbs up to 30-50g 1 hour after every dose.
    I was carb cycling during the recomp, yes... that sounds like a possibility.
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