- 02-22-2007, 12:07 AM
I bit the bullet and decided to try out hamaguno hoping to see good strength gains while adding lean mass. Nobody else will do it so I will. Im eight days into now and im seeing Increased vasularity and strength starting to increase. I started out weighing 179 and right now im at 181. Not bad for a little over a week. Im keeping my calories around 2500 and protein around 230 grams. I just added the epistane today at 30 mg. I will be taking 1 in the morning 2 preworkout and 1 at night. The hamaguno im taking one with breakfast and the other 6 hours later. I will try to keep you posted atleast every other day. Wish me luck
- 02-22-2007, 01:02 AM
- 02-22-2007, 01:07 AM
I thought so too. Hemaguno's compound is 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol while epi is 2a,3a-epthio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane. Very similar but I figured the old halodrol was dosed at 50 mg so it wouldnt hurt. Plus all the big talk about this hemaguno made me want to give it a try. We'll see. No sides so far tho.
02-22-2007, 01:59 AM
I believe that those are just different ways to say the same chemical. Even some of the huge guys who tested this (300 lb+) didn't go above 40mg. I'd suggest that you ratchet the combined dose down to 30 or 40mg.
02-22-2007, 03:54 AM
Yes Sir, Yeahright is correct. Just do one or the other because they should be identical. Do 30mg of 1 at a time. Start with one and finish with the other if you like. Then we can have some real comparative data on which you thought was better. I'm the chemist that tests Epi but I have no idea what this other brand really is. I'd like to hear your response running it solo though. Besides, 50mg is more than you need. It's not just the fact that it's probably safe and OK (with liver and cardiac support of course just to be sure) but if you don't need that much then why? Granted, I admire your protein intake! Good job, but you'd need to train every day to maximize 50mg.
02-22-2007, 08:59 AM
Thanks alot yeahright and Dr.D I guess ill run the Hemaguno first since im already 10 days into now and than finish with the epistane.
02-22-2007, 06:49 PM
02-22-2007, 08:57 PM
well I just got done doing arms tonight. I did biceps and triceps with high reps. My pumps are coming alot faster and muscles feel alot harder. My weight is also up another pound to 182. I was feeling a little lethargy today but no other sides as of yet. Im liking thus far.
02-27-2007, 09:08 PM
02-27-2007, 09:31 PM
Im up 3 pounds with strength starting to increase. Muscles are def. feeling much harder and more vascular. No sides yet.
02-28-2007, 05:33 PM
Lookin good .Keep it up!
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03-01-2007, 01:21 AM
I did shoulders and traps tonight and I really feel it kicking in. My muscles feel hard throughout the day. I put on another pound so now Im up 4 pounds in 2 weeks. Strength isnt up too much yet but i like the way im looking. Also vasularity is up alot which I like. I have yet to see a reduction in the gyno though which is what i was really hoping for. Im only taking in around 1800 calories or so and Im gaining weight so its real lean Ill post back in a couple days.
03-05-2007, 10:08 PM
just curious how the rest of the cycle went. One of my workout partners is using the same just curious if you loved it like he is.....
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